Another lesson to be taught

[Not For Sale]

Another declaration, short and to the point.

First, a mail.

Spoiler:

I Farm A Lot on 29.04. at 20:30
Hello, I noticed you have recently recruited [player]Redicuously hench Steve[/player], I am in the process of nobling him. I launched my train earlier today, only to have loyalty drop to 7. He is cleared of troops at the moment.
Here are some reports:
[spoiler][report_display]http://en56.tribalwars.net/public_report/b23f3408214dc91ccec92457cd1e5825[/report_display]
[report_display]http://en56.tribalwars.net/public_report/68385b98a02279b086b6ae2340b4a049[/report_display]
[report_display]http://en56.tribalwars.net/public_report/8784ae990c606202fa705b5f5df6188d[/report_display]
[report_display]http://en56.tribalwars.net/public_report/be391c05e557178074b2ffb8b64b1295[/report_display][/spoiler]
If you could please dismiss him, that would be great.
Sorry if I mailed the wrong person, you were the only one listed other than [player]Cute Strawberry Bunny[/player].
Angacam on 29.04. at 20:33
forward me all of your reports.
I Farm A Lot on 29.04. at 20:42
May I ask why? You see all you need to see right there.
Angacam on 29.04. at 20:45
Because thats the way I do this, thats the way i have done this since W2, If you want him dismissed and not supported, forward me your reports and it will be done.
I Farm A Lot on 29.04. at 20:53
From my point of view, it looks as if you are trying to figure out my troop count, so you know how much you need to stack him with in order to hold off my nobles. The only difference between a forwarded report, and these publicized reports are that the forwarded reports show my troop counts, and you get them in your report folder.
Angacam on 29.04. at 20:56
Sigh, this is what is wrong with TW these days, no trust, this crap where you can insert the partial reports into mails is new, before that we had to trust each other if we wanted results. If you want to work with me, and you want him dismissed, and i am the only Duke here who will do it, you will have to trust me, Old School Style. Forward the reports I dont even open spoilers. Never have, wont start with yours.
I Farm A Lot on 29.04. at 21:00
Reports sent, I hope you are a man of your word.
I Farm A Lot on 29.04. at 21:11
I see he has been dismissed now, thank you.
Angacam on 30.04. at 21:31
How are you today? I was just speaking with a few people. I want to assure you that your reports were not passed along in any way, nor have any eyes other than mine seen them. I was told you lost your nobles and felt it important to speak to you again.
I Farm A Lot on 30.04. at 23:04
He managed to scrape up close to 3400 D troops from somewhere, where the origin is, I can't be sure.
Angacam on 30.04. at 23:17
He had it before we dissmissed him from his friends, some in some not in our tribe. I did not like the whole situation but, I had sat him 3 days earlier and due to my own personal life had not gotten him in our tribe. Because of that, I told him he had to fend you off alone. He seems to have done that.
I am going to re - invite him, I would respectfully suggest a new target.
I Farm A Lot on 30.04. at 23:21
Fair enough...
Go ahead and invite him, I need to build up my O a bit before nobling again.
Angacam on 30.04. at 23:28
Yea. i was sent the reports, just sat Steve's account. Lots of offense left for him, this world is strange, a dodge can be a great thing if your enemy can not really hurt you. No Hauls, strange strats developing.
I Farm A Lot on 30.04. at 23:31
Yes, there are also many more players around due to no one getting farmed and quitting.
Angacam on 30.04. at 23:32
Shew aint that the truth
I Farm A Lot on 09.05. at 15:08
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This message has been forwarded by I Farm A Lot.

The very first interaction. Most of us are still bitter about that one. But Old was just the little guy back then.
I remember the frustration in the council. Some wanted to declare right then, but, it was too early for war, so we bit our tongues and held back our armies, and let you keep your refugee. Is that guy even still around??

Some time passes... no more interaction... until...

Spoiler:

[003] zoltard (607|590) K565,626zoltard [Lazy]Ressus the IV [Old]2011-05-06 10:34:24
007 (668|516) K565,433Purpose of Life [Lazy]Matter [Old]2011-05-06 05:52:14

A couple members run an op on them. Some mails are exchanged here and there... Diplomacy is arranged. We are going to run some op's on some players, and see how our tribes work together. If all is well, we will form an alliance. We set an NAP in the meantime.
No op's are ever run together. The conversation just kind of fizzled...
Then this...

Spoiler:

N0BLER on 07.05. at 19:32
Hmmm...
NINJA players you recruited...
We have multiple support/attack threads for them.
They are like #1 hitlist for our near future. I have no problem telling you this, becuase I could care less if it gets back to them or not. They think they can push us around, and always have...
If you dismiss them or not, they will be taken down.
I apologize if this offends you in any way, I don't mean in like that at all. But they have frustrated myself, and my tribe for a long time, and I have reached my last grain with them...
Angacam on 07.05. at 19:34
LOL, they are old friends and adversaries from w15. They fought against me there and have become close to us since then.
How about we agree to discuss them a bit latter, after i have a chance to look at the situation a bit. It is one I did not know about.

Again, frustration. No message ever comes, it is never brought up again. The matter, it seems, was just to be considered done. We do not see it that way. You were told what would happen if you decided to keep those players, and you made your choice.
We almost cancelled the war with TFL right there and started adjusting our frontlines. But we continued, as planned.

More time passes... we declared on TFL, and make quick work of them.
During the war...

Spoiler:

Lord HouseJoined11th May 2011 - 18:0518,093

You recruited a TFL player, which we strongly urged against during our conflict.

Spoiler:

[--5--] (667|588) K564,202Bullvice [TFL]Lord House [Lazy]2011-05-12 22:14:25

And allowed him to take villages from TFL members.
Then more recruiting... TFL council no less...

Spoiler:

)Hawk(Joined15th May 2011 - 16:0522,065

Those were not your only TFL recruits, just the ones of note.
These were not our only conflicts, just the ones that have public relevance.

Without launching any troops on our members, you have continued actions we view as hostile. This is a decision you made for us.

Spoiler:

Old declares war on lazy


Frank: Are you sure you're ok with this, Blue?
Blue: Just ring the ****ing bell, you pansy.

[Javanshir]

+1

Me like!

Go Old!

[A humble player]

Old loses.

[2Hot2Handle]

Orly wow .

<3

[TheBrain*]

Too Lazy to waste time with more than this....

[Lord Gorwad]

Poor baby

[R3000]

Should be a good war to watch

[=RUS= Storm]

I will definatly be handing support to whoever needs it (; of course if all of my defense doesnt decide to die fighting TBH, although alot already have

[TW Rosa Luxemburg]

oO wow. Sooo many wars happening everywhere!

Though, of course. /me roots for Lazy

[2Stoned2Care]

oO wow. Sooo many wars happening everywhere!

Though, of course. /me roots for Lazy

I believe evreyone is =) Pity that Lisa went to bed

[Imnotafraidofyou]

Rooting for Old, mostly because Lazy seems a bit too spread to actually support those close to Old.
Would be very cool to see lazy take the win thou.

[2Stoned2Care]

Rooting for Old, mostly because Lazy seems a bit too spread to actually support those close to Old.
Would be very cool to see lazy take the win thou.

If you consider the actualy border it is quite miniscule.

[ska2d2]

Yawn wut war?

/me goes back to sleep

Good luck to both sides, should be fun

[2Hot]

I loved the pnp, it made lazy look bad and old look good. Also, lazy is MoM's lapdog, so minus points there.

However, i got buds in lazy, ashenfall, 2hot2handle (name stealer), ultimately, Let the best Tribe Win.

[Doctor Jeroen]

I loved the pnp, it made lazy look bad and old look good. Also, lazy is MoM's lapdog, so minus points there.

Let the best Tribe Win.

^ This.

Good luck to both!

[Lord Gorwad]

Also, lazy is MoM's lapdog, so minus points there.

Yeah...... but not really, when we do become a lapdog we'll be sure to mail you for tips.

[2Hot2Handle]

I believe evreyone is =) Pity that Lisa went to bed

LOL Thanks for telling the enemy I went to bed

<3

[Von Hallander]

hmm. a tough one here, beeing old Lazy member and knows a lot of the players there. I vote for you guys, but .. yeah.. looks like Anga has done a W38 diplomacy suicide again. *L*
I think Anga actually does these things on purpose just to blow up his tribes *LOL*

[und3rrat3d]

darn it, I dont want to send nukes!!!

too much effort!!

[sockofdeath]

Good PnP, and made the history really clear. I'm impressed.

I have no bias towards either tribe, but the PnP has swayed me towards Old. I also generally have a dislike of Lazy due to the response to one of those diplomatic mails starting with "LOL"

Not the best response...