RAM's Dissapearance Statement.

DeletedUser79042

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Verm, it took a conspiracy theory to make you post after 3-4 months? Are you still ingame? :icon_wink:
 

DeletedUser

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Yes still here, had a bit of trouble with my company but getting it sorted now. should be overtaking you inthe ranking in a week or two :)
 

DeletedUser79042

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should be overtaking you inthe ranking in a week or two

Highways are air patrolled where I "operate" verm. Careful on white lines when "driving"! :icon_wink: Still I am a farmer - slacker and I am sure you will do overtake me after all :icon_rolleyes:
 

DeletedUser

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I see some departures of a few RAM players including CrimsonKing and Lmawii, both starting up individual tribes like mberns. Does anyone know why each of these players left RAM and are going it alone? I was just curious, they seem like good players.
 

DeletedUser

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Well referring to you, you have great points & you've obviously played for quite sometime. You've worked hard to be where you are and to have the number of villages you currently have. You must have the skills to make you a great player to be so far up in the rankings. I understand points, ranks and so on are not always key examples of why players are considered adequate players or reasons of why i may percieve you and the others i mentioned being good players, that was a under statement in my opinion however i have never been in a war with you personally so don't know what specfic skills you actually have or if you are a great player neither do i want to be in a war with you, it is only my personal perception, i didn't mean to insult you but to instead compliment you on your achievements. I merely asked why you left RAM and that was the focus of my post, your depature from RAM and the formation of your own tribe is a fact, if you are or are not a good player is my perception.

For the same statment referring to Lmawii about being a good player, this is aimed at Spyker above. Reading his pnp posts he seems like a great player and he seems like even against great odd's and taking control of a massively damaged account he still did and continues to do a good job. Also, he's well known and has respect from both his attackers and most world 30 tribes. Again this is only a perception made by myself, i don't personally know both of you and don't know how good you are, i just thought wow 2 players that i precieve to be good and have history on world 30 and strong ties in RAM now leaving RAM and forming new, individual tribes is interesting i gave little thought to my statement referring to yours and the other players cailber, yet i still precieve you and lmawii has being good players and until proven wrong will continue to think that. I never meant it has a bad thing and the main purpose of my post was to question the changes not give my personal opinion on how good of a player you or anyone else is, i'm in no poistion to make any opinions referring to players such has yourself i am small and growing i started this world late. I didn't think a postive comment referring to yours and other players abilities would be questioned, my apologies if it came across has an insult or that you didn't agree with my opinion or perception.

I hope that answered your question CrimsonKing1999 and that it didn't cause any unnecessary offense to yourself or any other player mentioned or in RAM.
 
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DeletedUser

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Aye! So much drama that I missed. I won't shed a tear for RAM at all and I think it was well deserved.
 

KarmaX

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There is nothing to shed tears for.. :p We're fine and always will be even after you trying so hard :p
 

DeletedUser

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Yeah, yeah everything is my fault... :icon_eek:

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crimsonking1999

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I merely asked why you left RAM and that was the focus of my post, your depature from RAM and the formation of your own tribe is a fact, if you are or are not a good player is my perception.

than ask me ingame

pnp ... is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.
 

DeletedUser

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@ crimsonking - I've never been hacked or cracked, so to me it's all the same. In both cases (DK or this), the intentions and outcome are garbage but in reality were due to someone letting another in.

There is a definite difference between me worming and lying my way into an account and someone accessing an account without permission. Phoenx IMO did this to themselves. I would not have been able to do what I did without a PW, whereas the RAM disbandment was completely different. Whoever cracked/hacked his PW is quite the computer buff as cracking MD5 hash is no easy task (If thats even what TW uses. I know FB uses MD5.) Most likely they used a key-logger or a phishing site, as they require far less time and skill to use.

BullMastiff said:
In both cases, someone left something important susceptible to harm, and harm was done. The IP not being traced to anyone here doesn't mean anything. I have access to 100s of IPs everyday.

I agree with you to a point, but as I stated previously Phoenx knowingly left themselves susceptible to my will, which is a pretty dumb decision. :icon_smile:

BullMastiff said:
Weakness is weakness. For whatever reason, a RAM duke was targeted and wasn't protected enough to keep evil-doers out. Shame on both sides...just like DK situation (which was my point).

Again, you knowingly took a risk with DK, and our account was accessed without the player being given a PW. One was a (YOUR) mistake and the other was a malicious attempt at destroying us.

Bullmastiff said:
And no, i didn't approve of it. In fact I was the only one that knew (besides raven and bobby) before it happened and I didn't approve. Nonetheless, I stand by my word - paj has yet to make any big mistakes and he's a hell of a guy. DK is peanuts.

No one thought it was a good idea but Paj. But with how I methodically buttered him up and put things in motion, I honestly can't say I blame him. A lot of people in that situation would have made the same mistake. I was just tough on Paj because he likes to act invincible and bullet-proof and I wanted to bring him back to a worldly level.
 

Pajuno

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No one thought it was a good idea but Paj. But with how I methodically buttered him up and put things in motion, I honestly can't say I blame him. A lot of people in that situation would have made the same mistake. I was just tough on Paj because he likes to act invincible and bullet-proof and I wanted to bring him back to a worldly level.

First of all, you have no concept of what that account meant to us, as i told you before we even handed it over. Since you arent that great of a player, doing what you do..(changing accounts, changing tribes, changing loyalties, etc etc) then you wouldnt understand the entire DK situation like a member of phoenx would.


But hey, keep patting yourself on the back like you did this great thing. All you did was dirty Ram even further. *shrug*

Whether or not you like to admit it, you still did us a favor. You didnt lose us a *player*, you lost us an account.. and did it by blatantly lying to the mods. *dont forget, we could see the lies you posted in that account's admin box* For everyone's information, the player we had on the account was not active enough due to home internet situations. Since that was the case, the sitting was over 60 days. Use your imagination....


As bull stated, i have yet to make a "major" mistake. Dk was a stumble at best... One way or another, i wanted that account off of our hands. THANK YOU *wasnt what i had hoped, but the result isnt major*

I see your finally allowed back, to continue to spread your porn. Awesome, im glad they let someone like you back among the children of this game.
 

DeletedUser

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First of all, you have no concept of what that account meant to us, as i told you before we even handed it over. Since you arent that great of a player, doing what you do..(changing accounts, changing tribes, changing loyalties, etc etc) then you wouldnt understand the entire DK situation like a member of phoenx would.
When have I changed tribes or loyalty? When, besides taking up Aubree on her offer to co-play, have I changed accounts? You mind backing up any of these baseless accusations?

Pajuno said:
But hey, keep patting yourself on the back like you did this great thing. All you did was dirty Ram even further. *shrug*

I had fun doing it. Where do I say it was great or even give myself props?

Pajuno said:
Whether or not you like to admit it, you still did us a favor. You didnt lose us a *player*, you lost us an account.. and did it by blatantly lying to the mods.
Oh word. :lol: Care to elaborate? Care to provide some proof rather than spouting this type of garbage?

pajuno said:
*dont forget, we could see the lies you posted in that account's admin box*

Again, please refresh my memory. Maybe YOU should stop lying.

Pajuno said:
As bull stated, i have yet to make a "major" mistake. Dk was a stumble at best... One way or another, i wanted that account off of our hands. THANK YOU *wasnt what i had hoped, but the result isnt major*

No, thank you. I had a fun time. While my stay in Phoenx was brief it was fun nonetheless. :lol::lol::lol:

Pajuno said:
I see your finally allowed back, to continue to spread your porn. Awesome, im glad they let someone like you back among the children of this game.
Finally? Allowed? I've been back and there was never a point where I wasn't allowed to. Fortunately, as well as being pretty skilled at manipulating people, I'm also skilled at toeing the line. You can't punish me if I've done nothing wrong. :icon_biggrin:

Changing the javascript in DK's quick-bar is hardly 'spreading porn'.
 
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