Answers to Nobleman Questions.

DeletedUser

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OK, as i am getting so many msgs about how a nobleman works etc and it appears no one wants to read the other threads i am going to write this post out and send people who keep asking me to here.


Ok.

Things to remember about a nobleman.

You need a level 20 Smithy. This is an absolute pain in the ass to get. With a level 20 HQ it takes like 18 hours to build a level 19 and 20 hours to build a level 20 Smithy. So plan accordingly (make sure you have farms and warehouse space).

The academy takes about 8 hours to build.

Your nobleman then takes another 3 hours to build.

Ok, now to the main point of most people's questions - How you take over another persons village.

You must send the nobleman to attacl another persons village. This village could be any size village (50 pointer or 2000 points or higher, it makes no difference).

Now, some very important things to consider.

Make sure you know the defence power of the village your trying to take out.

I sent my nobleman with a massive escort as i wanted no surprises of people sending support troops etc.

The last thing you want is your nobleman to die. And this is for every attack you make with him ("every attack you make i hear you cry".

Yes thats right, you will be making anywhere from 3-7 attacks depending on the distance of the village from you.

A nobleman moves at 35 mins per field (the slowest unit). So every field the village your attacking is away from you the harder and longer it will be to take over.

The village i took was 3 hours 50 mins (4 hours for arguments sake).

Thats 4 hours there and 4 hours back home again, making it a round trip of 8 hours.

This is important for several reasons.

You basicly attack the village. If your successful you will decrease the loyalty of that village between 20 and 35%. This seemed completely random and different sized armies made no effect (i.e. a bigger army never gave me a bigger increase).

So if you were unlucky and only took it down 20%, you would be looking at 5 runs. Which of course is 5 x 8 hours.

Now whats worse is, the enemy village regains loyalty at a rate of 1% per hour. So for every attack you make, you might as well minus 8% of your attack, as the time you get back to the village they would have regained that much.

So of course this means you are likely to add even more time via attacks to take over the village.

So as you can see, its NOT an easy and straightfoward process.

Now if your attacking a village in a big clan, they would have plenty of time to send huge amounts of support to defend against you taking over.

If at any time you were to lose your nobleman in the attack (even on the last attack) you would have to start the entire process again.

So be VERY careful on who you pick to take out. This really limites the options available to most people.

I would reccomend you dont try and take out a village that is more than 4-5 fields away.

I cant think of any other questions i've been asked, but if anyone has any, post them here and i will do my best to reply to them.
 

DeletedUser

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coin world or packets ?

if coins you'll need to have minted the required number

packets I dont play so cant say
 
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Seagryfn

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Assuming that I noble the other player who has already produced a nobleman, will I be able to use his academy to build a nobleman and noble the barbarian village.
Yes, if you noble him first, you can use his former academy that will now be your own to meet your requirement for a 2nd academy level to create your second nobleman. You will also need 2 stored packages to pay for the training, and enough farm space in the population.

What if I conquer the village but he nobles the barbarian village before that?
Then, you will not "rim" him, but, you will still own his former academy. Whether or not he can make another noble depends upon if the barb has an academy.
 
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DeletedUser107839

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Thanks a lot. That was all I wanted to know.

I'll build my first academy tomorrow but since he has a tribe it won't be easy to get him. He has a 3,5k tribe mate close to him who is a pure pointwhore but can have some defensive troops. I'll certainly build Academy 2 and recruit at least 1 more nobleman. By the time one of us attacks the other we will both be 4k points and the winner will contol the area. If I noble him the other guy will be an easy target.
 
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DeletedUser

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i have a question, and i searched for it but couldn't find it.

I have my first nobleman. my village is under attack right now and is threatened to being nobled itself by a huge tribe. my question is this: if my noble is in transit for the final noble attack to take a different village, and my village gets nobled, before it hits, what happens? does it not attack? does it attack and win the village for whoever just nobled me? or will I still take over that other village?
 
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Seagryfn

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if my noble is in transit for the final noble attack to take a different village, and my village gets nobled, before it hits, what happens?
The moment the loyalty of your village reaches 0 (no loyalty) any troops that were not killed in the attack "disband" as they are no longer loyal to you. They do not complete their last command, and they do not get captured by your attacker. They simply wander off (disappear).
 
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DeletedUser

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I have 3 packets stored in one village and need to transfer 1 or 2 packets to another villiage with a new academy. Can packets be transferred like or want? If so, HOW? I see a store that does something but I can't figure out what it does. Help!
 
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DeletedUser

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If you have 3 packets, then they are available in any village. They are not restricted to the village you stored them in. If I store 2 packets in Village A, I can build my noble in Village B with those packets.
 
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DeletedUser

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Yes, I can see that shifting around in the. Because of reduction in the price of packets in some villages, now I have extra resources in the store - maybe 1/2 packet? I guess the computer will automatically adjust for all those extra resources in the store.
 
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DeletedUser

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What's the point of building an academy in D village? Just for secrecy or repurposing or are there any other reasons?
Is it common practice to send nobleman with D troops as a part of noble train sent from different villages (including both types - offensive and defensive)?
 
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Seagryfn

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Also, when nobling from a distance into a war front, it is not uncommon to use D-noble trains. You send your nukes separately, and perhaps send one-noble nukes from more than one location. Or clear in advance of a lightly-escorted first few nobles from the D-village. No one ever tries to 'snipe' the 1st noble. That is what stacking is for; just have enough noble-escort to kill a couple hundred defenders.

But, when using a D-noble train, you escort the 4th (or 5th) noble with 10Kspears/10Kswords (or whatever is left in the village).

This works well on a war front if you were NOT sending support behind the noble. Most players see a long-distance train with no follow-up support, and they assume rather than waste defense stacking against the attack, they will let the village fall and re-take it right after the conquering noble. Even with walls low, that re-capture effort fails when they strike your full defense that arrived escorting your noble! As soon as you take the village, rush in more defense so the enemy now no longer sees the support arriving to stack their former village that you now own.

Granted, you do not want to have a lot of D-noble train villages. But, they make a nice, effective surprise tactic now and then when you are trying to noble in a dangerous area.
 
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DeletedUser

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Seagryfn, very nice explanation (as usually expected from you :) )!

One more question concerning your explanation:
Or clear in advance of a lightly-escorted first few nobles from the D-village. No one ever tries to 'snipe' the 1st noble. That is what stacking is for; just have enough noble-escort to kill a couple hundred defenders.
Do you mean that we send a noble which lands first with rather moderate amount of D troops ("lightly-escorted")? Isn't it risky tactics? And how many D troops of what kind can you use as escort of such nobleman?

Other part of your explanation I've undrerstood quite well though.

And... by the way one more short question:
how many O troops (LC, axes) do you recommend to send to escort your 2-nd and 3-rd noblemen in common noble train sent from O village so it would be less risky even if some snipe attempts would be successful? 100 axes? 200 axes? More? Or maybe some LC also?

Thanks!
 
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DeletedUser

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I usually send nearly a full nuke with the first noble, then 100 axes with the 2,3,4 and 5th in some cases. The idea is that if there is any troops left in the village when your train hits it, the first attack kills them all.
 
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DeletedUser

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I usually send nearly a full nuke with the first noble, then 100 axes with the 2,3,4 and 5th in some cases. The idea is that if there is any troops left in the village when your train hits it, the first attack kills them all.

Exactly what I thought. But why do you need these 100 axes for escorting 2-4 noblemen? As I supposed thay can be used if he tries to snipe your 2-4 noblemen? In this case isn't this too small escort?
I.e. what's the purpose of these 100 axes per each of 2-4 noblemen?
 
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DeletedUser

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Because the basic defence of a village is sufficient to kill a lone nobleman. It is never a good idea to send a nobleman without protection.
 
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DeletedUser

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Because the basic defence of a village is sufficient to kill a lone nobleman. It is never a good idea to send a nobleman without protection.
My idea is that for a cleared village (having luck -25% and morale 50%, for example) without a wall 1 nobleman need only 2 axes to survive. For this calculations I used simulator. Why do we need 100 axes? Do you suppose that the wall could be several levels higher than 0 after clearing?
 
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DeletedUser

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Look, if you want to go through your entire TW career sending nobleman with escorts of 2 axes, be my guest.
 
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DeletedUser

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Look, if you want to go through your entire TW career sending nobleman with escorts of 2 axes, be my guest.

No, simply I want to understard, to see the clear explanation why to send 100 axemen, but not 50 or 200? Or 25 or 400? Why 100?

Can anybody help me to clarify this?
Thanks!
 
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