Yes ZOMBIE was impressive, fighting and reforming IMPACT, showing Riot! it shouldn't recruit its largest neighbor. Remember, this is all, in fact, pure opinion (Rednecks). ZOMBIE was impressive UNTIL they decided to recruit/recruit/recruit. Your records show it. Your member lists show it.
What is Play? Play was WarrCheffain, a couple of dedicated players, and then a whole bunch of rim players that do not contribute to our cause whatsoever. They got their boost in their game from HATE, namely the exRESIST folk. I for one, do not believe the claim that HATE and Play outnumbered ZOMBIE's elements, considering how many accounts they recruited from UZR/Riot!, especially considering HATE and Play didn't obtain any noticable members. Again, even Maghy was removed from HATE membership because of spy suspicions (or something like that). Also the gangbang doesn't really include UZR: ask Sobaks. UZR folded and joined you in like two seconds.
In the context of THIS war, you've had the free ride. You worked hard to get it, sure, but this war has been a cake-walk because you simply invited and watched the world turn blue (and what didn't turn blue attacked HATE, namely Love/GUARD). When did you ever feel threatened? Lines broken? With the beck and call of so many nukes and d, with so many active players now, and co-players to boot (while we had to deal with the common inactivity found in tribes that don't fill its member list with great players, or don't have that opportunity). I'd like to ask a direct question and see how long it takes to get a straight answer. ZOMBIE(s), do you believe you came into this war with a predetermined advantage by way of recruitment?
ok, back in the day there were 3 tribes who were each large enough that their interests would begin to conflict and 1 would begin to take superiority.
1. Impact (ZOMBIE)
2. Riot
3. The gian family of multiple tribes
(I dont count HATE/noodle as they are and always have been plagued by internal issues)
each could make a bid for superiority, and they all knew war was inevitable. Gians merged into Riot, thus tipping the scale into riots favor (numbers wise) war ensued, I am sure all can agree, ZOMBIE bashed straight through Gian meat shields and began fighting riot proper. As an outsider you could say that ZOMBIE looked to be taking an edge with Riot counter attacks showing up in force. To make a long story short, ZOMBIE gaines a nice chunk of land.
Those riot members werent noobs. neither are those in ZOMBIE. so why wouldnt you go to the tribe who has earned your respect through bloodshed, rather than say a tribe who wouldnt stand a chance? As you know some riot wouldnt join ZOMBIE at first and went to UZR. and that brings up my next point.
I dont know why the hell you like to bring it up, but your knowledge of the history of that area is deplorable. Rx was created by the players xCyber, Demon Flayer, and ASF. Cyber left, ASF left and it was just Demon. And i built that little rim tribe up from the ground. (I am Demon Flayer) I had gians (before and after they merged into riot) at constant war with us until we started turning it around and finally made some progress back after some inactivety issues were cleared up. So from its conception Rx was always anti-Riot and pro ZOMBIE. I was good friends with Jack and many other ZOMBIE players (I even did a stint in their tribe until real life sucked me away) Eventually we gave riot a ceasefire for reasons i cant remember (red or brett can answer that). Again Rx is still quite pro ZOMBIE and was looking at joining ZOMBIE upon a later date. looking for more expansion for my restless members we set our sights north on a tribe known as urban. We had a few skirmishes, but due to a careless co-player, our co-duke and frontline got banned. the war came to stagnation. As time went on (with ZOMBIE and riot warring) dallock and my coplayer (I was on vacation at the time) started talks of a merge. I returned and thought "great, that would be a good bolster for our ranks" which yes, though it also came with a bit of anti-ZOMBIE sentimentility. As im sure both tribes will acknowledge, merging Rx and Urban was the biggest mistake weve ever made and I have made as a duke for them. Eventually when riot was loosing more ground, a few started looking at new places to call their home, of course this brings more anti-ZOMBIE into UZR.
Eventually it turned into war with ZOMBIE (I was not in favor of this but was outvoted) and waah-lah! being on the southern border (was playing as menethern at the time) I got destroyed. my connection ran out, and i was away for 4 days until i returned. When I returned my tribe had fallen apart, inactivety was rampent and those players closest to the plague were raveged. Another segment had broken off (SPQR) with former Rx players and were friendly to ZOMBIE.
The point of this, is why wouldnt you expect these players to join? Many were friends of ZOMBIE players, there was still conflict among the two groups in the tribe so wonder they took the first chance they got at joining friends.
Also, ZOMBIE had to work to get its way to where it is. read lucayas post a few pages back and it shows just a small insight on challenges ZOMBIE has had to face in its existence.
As for your ramblings about ZOMBIE entering the war with a predetermined advantage you really must be joking. HATE started the war. Plus in my eyes they have always been an inferior tribe, living off one diplomatic backstab to the next. From their promise to help UZR fight ZOMBIE (should have jumped on the chance their to maybe have a shot) to their backstab on ZOMBIE by ignoring their grace period and declaring on a tribe who was ready around the clock.
HATE has good members (the few the proud) but their leadership has always been so poor its like friendly fire. Of course you will have your players that will flake out at the beginning of a war, welcome to tribal wars, but to blame your losses on not recruiting? well thats inexperience and will be fixed in time.
also your pot shots at red are hilarious, red is a better player now than you could ever hope to aspire to be.
Now dont use Rx "merge" as an excuse for your complaints any longer you dont know your history of the area, or the tribes very well and whenever you post of them it further weakens the foundation (if you ever had one) of your argument.
All in all, GO ZOMBIE!