END WORLD

[geomikajak]

ya..have to agree with the coey... your crap bro! your mouth been flapping all game = but your shit..
now you will use any excuse possible to delete..............we already know your under deletion...........
<council banter.> "you dick..really?"> most of you are under deletion on a tribe vote...but none shall not be recruited !!!!!
you suck mayhem!....

can show screen shots if you all want..but will have to show them all...including little miss MEZ! AGREEMENT...
we did not attack...neither did he..many many months......why do you think we did not op mez???????????????????
cause its easier to put a dog on a leash...when the dog initiates obedience... bugger you mez..your a dog...

=you wizard backliners stupid enough to cream your duds on a Alex mail..... = "more fool you fool!"
i got wiz account mates gifting villas left..right..and no where near me fulla! <"sorry angry bro">
<insert lazy "i cant be fkd looking for cool pics">simple fact=wiz have failed.....

lets turn the page>>>loose the bullshit>>>and see what happens when the dust settles...................

p.s "suck my tit!" you muppets! (finger)

congrats my bro's....the rest is nothing but clean up crap.."YOU DO THE MATHS!"
"he with the most nobels wins"....
(beer)

 

[Mintyfresh]

ya..have to agree with the coey... your crap bro! your mouth been flapping all game = but your shit..
now you will use any excuse possible to delete..............we already know your under deletion...........
<council banter.> "you dick..really?"> most of you are under deletion on a tribe vote...but none shall not be recruited !!!!!
you suck mayhem!....

can show screen shots if you all want..but will have to show them all...including little miss MEZ! AGREEMENT...
we did not attack...neither did he..many many months......why do you think we did not op mez???????????????????
cause its easier to put a dog on a leash...when the dog initiates obedience... bugger you mez..your a dog...

=you wizard backliners stupid enough to cream your duds on a Alex mail..... = "more fool you fool!"
i got wiz account mates gifting villas left..right..and no where near me fulla! <"sorry angry bro">
<insert lazy "i cant be fkd looking for cool pics">simple fact=wiz have failed.....

lets turn the page>>>loose the bullshit>>>and see what happens when the dust settles...................

p.s "suck my tit!" you muppets! (finger)

http://data:image/jpeg;base64,/9j/4...Qwwcxjv615SrbnIfN1Y/BNpUAnJ7nGN/lnavaVKsEz//Z http://data:image/jpeg;base64,/9j/4...15SrbnIfN1Y/BNpUAnJ7nGN/lnavaVKsEz//Zcongrats my bro's....the rest is nothing but clean up crap.."YOU DO THE MATHS!"
"he with the most nobels wins"....
(beer)

A) Proof-read your posts by using the 'preview' button
B) The only thing worse than a sore loser is a sore winner. Take my advice, try and tone down the crazy

Having said that congrats to DST! cant really see them losing from this position.

 

[Mintyfresh]

A-fuk u
B-you can talk "heil mint"

your a wanta be long thankfuk gone dik...go away...
you dont deserve to post here...the world still hates you..!
and the best bit=none of your crew are still here...."blow me mint!"

I think you have me confused with the ex-duke of @night who is nothing to do with me

 

[geomikajak]

maybe...but either way.....zip it=
unless your 89 related...stfu..
(kiss)

 

[stephenmac1]

minty what account were you on 89?

 

[Mintyfresh]

minty what account were you on 89?

I outlined my (very meager) contributions here.

That aside i have friends in both tribes so i havent been following the maps for the past few months because all personal shenanigans aside its been fairly interesting

 

[geomikajak]

correct= cody will hit you with a pistol for saying my fav word........
but i call shenanigans also........
but serious...finger your friends bro............
i been watching and now and then commenting on w89 for awhile now also...
but........i am playing 89...
so your opinion is acknowledged ....but fuk u...will type what ever i wish now that its official...
i was here day 1..and will still be here when we are done....
dont post unless you know the big picture of w89.... (kiss)

 

[Psihic]

Wanted WIZ to go down, always rooted for DST.

And still do.

But I thought the win would come in a different way. A more honest and deserving way.

I love you geo, you know that. But this was a dirty move which on top of it was utterly unnecessary.

DST had the skill, the numbers.. everything.

But it is what it is now. Still glad DST will win this one.

 

[DeletedUser103748]

Wanted WIZ to go down, always rooted for DST.

And still do.

But I thought the win would come in a different way. A more honest and deserving way.

I love you geo, you know that. But this was a dirty move which on top of it was utterly unnecessary.

DST had the skill, the numbers.. everything.

But it is what it is now. Still glad DST will win this one.

Little bit of extra insight for ya

 

[blckdrgn1]

Wanted WIZ to go down, always rooted for DST.

And still do.

But I thought the win would come in a different way. A more honest and deserving way.

I love you geo, you know that. But this was a dirty move which on top of it was utterly unnecessary.

DST had the skill, the numbers.. everything.

But it is what it is now. Still glad DST will win this one.

Psihic, like glen said above, what is dirtier? Wiz leadership backstabbing their own tribe? Or us not agreeing to help them back stab their own tribe?

 

[DeletedUser120692]

Glen speaks the truth, we saved the world's integrity.

 

[stephenmac1]

I do hope This isn't wizard clutching at straws and using this as a reason for their demise. I would also like to know why any tribe at world end would give their opponents a chance by not attacking them for a month, esp. when DST has had all the momentum the last few weeks.
#getreal
#welcomebackRL

 

[stephenmac1]

WIZARD have had some really good players and it's been a pleasure fighting some of them (old and new). I hope all the shenanigans of the last few days don't over shadow the bigger picture.

double post but idc

 

[Psihic]

I dont need insight. And that paste made you look even worse.

All im saying is, I thought higher of Dins, Kate, Geo.. friends I have in DST.

"If they thought we would go for that deal, they are stupid" can not be an excuse for a low move like this. If an enemy comes with such an offer you tell them where they can stick it and launch more nukes. You dont win worlds like this.

Its a sad win and im pretty sure that DST leadership/players will have problems on future worlds to find someone who will trust them or want to ally/join them.

Those that continue to play that is.

Bottom line, if I was still in DST, I would delete my account instanty. Shamefull win really.

 

[DeletedUser120919]

I dont need insight. And that paste made you look even worse.

All im saying is, I thought higher of Dins, Kate, Geo.. friends I have in DST.

"If they thought we would go for that deal, they are stupid" can not be an excuse for a low move like this. If an enemy comes with such an offer you tell them where they can stick it and launch more nukes. You dont win worlds like this.

Its a sad win and im pretty sure that DST leadership/players will have problems on future worlds to find someone who will trust them or want to ally/join them.

Those that continue to play that is.

Bottom line, if I was still in DST, I would delete my account instanty. Shamefull win really.

Couldn't have said it better
Bottom line is that they agreed to go for that deal. If the council of DST came and told us that they do not accept such an offer, everything would be perfectly fine.
However, when they agree with us and give us the terms of the agreement, and then break it almost instantly, even though we did exactly what was agreed, it's disgusting and totally unrespectful.
We as an account cannot continue playing after that.
I hope you're proud of your win people, well done backstabbing and doing exactly the opposite of what YOU AGREED you would do.

 

[DeletedUser120919]

And to those members from DST commenting ''we would be stupid to go for that deal, we would never agree''
im sorry to disappoint you, but get your facts straight, you AGREED to go for that deal and agreed for a 1 month NAP
those of you that are not informed better speak with your council and then comment

ps: those that will keep saying that your tribe never agreed, please dont make me post the discussion between squirrly and kate that proves everything. i'd rather leave it here and let you decide whether your win was honourable or not
(you'd win the world 100%, but i never expected you to do it in such a cheap and dishonourable way. You just undermined your whole hard work and time you spent on this world.)

 

[DeletedUser103748]

Couldn't have said it better
Bottom line is that they agreed to go for that deal. If the council of DST came and told us that they do not accept such an offer, everything would be perfectly fine.
However, when they agree with us and give us the terms of the agreement, and then break it almost instantly, even though we did exactly what was agreed, it's disgusting and totally unrespectful.
We as an account cannot continue playing after that.
I hope you're proud of your win people, well done backstabbing and doing exactly the opposite of what YOU AGREED you would do.

I want to get this straight, are we dishonest from your perspective because you were a part of the leadership that wanted to completely sell out its tribe. Or are we dishonest because you're a member of the tribe that got left behind by your untrustworthy leaders?

Besides, is Wizard so much better after all the account stealing they did from honest players that the Wizard leaders offended so badly the players would rather join us? Ex. everlastinghero.

You act like we're horrible people for lying to these snakes who came to us with a plan to sell out their tribe and ruin the world for so many people who trusted them. This wasn't some huge plan to overthrow Wizard, this was us letting the Wizard leaders show their true colors to everyone.

And finally, it is an acceptable response to say that they were dumb enough to think we would go for such an idiotic "deal". To negotiate you have to have something to offer, that whole "deal" was really just a plead for mercy because it couldn't be a negotiation -- they had nothing to offer! Any half decent leader would realize that. I'm not sure if you're new to TW, but here's a really good lesson, don't expose yourself to your enemy in hopes that you'll be shown some sort of kind, altruistic, mercy that you don't deserve. It's not like we backstabbed our allies, we just gave our enemy a dose of their own medicine, unfortunately it proved fatal.

 

[DeletedUser120919]

i cant speak about the rest of the wizard leaders you're reffering to because i wasn't playing from the start of this world
so i have no opinion on the matter
to make things clear, if your tribe rejected our offer and simply told us they would not agree for a 1 month nap, there would be absolutely no problem for us
but as long as your council agreed for this 1 month NAP as long as we disbanded wizard (you told us we would make a new tribe with only the active players, and those in this new tribe would be in a NAP with DST, Crows and Archer for exactly one month), you should have sticked to your word and not make such a low move by backstabbing and declaring war on us after we did exactly what you asked us to do.
that's all.

 

[blckdrgn1]

i cant speak about the rest of the wizard leaders you're reffering to because i wasn't playing from the start of this world
so i have no opinion on the matter
to make things clear, if your tribe rejected our offer and simply told us they would not agree for a 1 month nap, there would be absolutely no problem for us
but as long as your council agreed for this 1 month NAP as long as we disbanded wizard (you told us we would make a new tribe with only the active players, and those in this new tribe would be in a NAP with DST, Crows and Archer for exactly one month), you should have sticked to your word and not make such a low move by backstabbing and declaring war on us after we did exactly what you asked us to do.
that's all.

The fact that you guys wanted a 1 month NAP with your enemy to take time to back stab your tribe is despicable, dirty, cheap, everything you are trying to call us right now lol So yea we played along to see if you were serious, and made you go beyond the point of no return so that you couldnt just sweep it under the rug and deny you ever made the offer if we said no.

We wanted your tribe to see your true colors, as Glen said, and you demonstrated them very clearly. Its pathetic really. You wanted us to help you back stab your tribe mates. This is by far the most disgusting move I've seen in my years of TW, and you wizard/FTF players should be ashamed. We are proud of exposing you, you deserved it.

Next time, grow a pair and show some loyalty. Die with your tribemates, with honor. What you attempted to do here has dishonored every one of you.

 

[ampac]

So, do you evidence to back this all up, treaties agreements are usually documented ingame.( Ex. Mails are usually save and forwarded to leadership so it will be properly documented), also the said player or leaders should have first secured the treaties and agreements ingame before making any major moves that would greatly lower his negotiating abilities for his group or for this matter his tribe.

Agreements are usually mailed inside the game, with approval of the majority of the council( unless its a dictatorship where 1 leader decides) and with general consensus of the tribe. ( With mails ingame it cannot be denied)

From what i see is this is a backdoor negotiations which has no concrete foundations, ( WIzard negotiator jumped the gun with no NAP's in place, decided in his own mind that this was what agreed upon.

As a lesson for negotiators, always have a leverage when asking for Naps and Treaties, always properly document what you have talked about and agreed upon, If your talking to a negotiator investigate if he has the authority to negotiate, secure documentations on what is agreed upon by mailing it ingame, always forward negotiations with Dukes as they always have the final say cause major decisions are always done by Dukes.


While Skype messages are faster, they are unreliable in documenting treaties and Naps, been a former leader i always documents agreements Ingame.

Accusing our leadership of backstabbing is a major accusation, we cannot take your word for it if you don't have proper evidence to support all these agreements Ingame, with prior approval of our Duke.