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Ok firstly I would like to introduce myself... I am Darren founder and lead player of xMachineZ from W96. My reason for posting here is too clear up and confusion and answer the main question of what happened with my account and Obey. I thought it best too leave it a few days and see how it would be brushed under the carpet as many things are in Obey so that they can portray this clean perfectionist image they hold so dear. So let’s start from the beginning.
Divided Leadership
At the start the tribe was well established and there was a good vibe and I have to give all credit to nest, I strongly believe that every player in the tribe has a right to his/her opinion on tribe direction and what is best for the tribe. Nest for the most part did this, some things slipping past him due to a divided council that did not comunicate very well, mostly due to RL and some council members just replying the first thing they thought to get out of doing anything that involved some council work. An example of this is an under the table deal the was done with SBAD with regards to a banned account that was going to barb on the border between both tribes.
The deal meant that Obey would recieve one of the villages from this account and SBAD would retain the rest as it was their member. When I noticed this account barb I asked if there was any issue with me nobling the villages and the nest council responded.. something along the lines of go for it! No issues here... hours later nest logged in and informed us all of the deal that was done a week prior and I was now going too be the one to suffer due too lack of information from the council. As you can imagine this was annoying and a nasty set back this early on in the world. This was just one of many cock ups that could of been prevented.
It’s no secret that the Duke of the tribe nest has ‘momentarily’ stepped down.. personally I see it as permanent as I sense his interest has weakened as the world progressed. As a result I cannot see Obey lasting much longer and will most likely die off due to the three D’s division, disagreements and lack of direction. I know this mainly due to some of the reactions I recieved from other Obey members who where being ordered too force internal me, a lot of them have voiced other concerns that they are annoyed about too.
The Image
Moving even earlier into Obeys history we look at the Syn war, Obey loves to think its the best that does absolutely no wrong and has the cleanest reputation in the history of the game. Well in truth that is not the case... If it were not for the level of spying and level of information Obey was recieving from inside the syn family and S_Crew a lot of the Obey players would not of survived.. some may argue this is just a common part of the game and information is a power tool. I mean I personally dislike the strategy but what bugs me is the fact Obey tries to pretend too be better than this and that they are above it.
The other thing I want to comment on this is about the way obey handles it’s diplomacy and likes to remind other tribes of how no other tribe on W96 is possibly worth real diplomacy with them. However for those who do recieve and official agreement with obey the terms are often set so that obey can drop them at a moments notice like they did with SBAD.
This also has an internal effect on the tribe as the direction in obey has never been clearly set out. I’m a firm believer of aiming for a goal as a tribe and complete it before moving on.. but with obey the attitude right now it litterally war everything which is just arrogant. It has also been voiced a few times how disposable the relationship with vape is.
Let’s dig a little deeper into the diplomacy..
Being one of the most active players in obey it was hard not too realise what really was the driving force in obeys diplomacy and direction.. it was either about who shouted the loudest or who had the most friends in leadership to influence..
An example of this is how Obey are currently at war with Escape..
From day one the tribe vision was to eat it’s own quarter first and form a huge back line to stack the front lines from using the full advantage of the rim.
Where this went wrong.. well it all went wrong from the ‘uncharacteristic’ power move obey made early on recruiting some of the top accounts from Tip.. this invested a lot of tribes resources and time in defending those account and making offensive efforts to satisfy the new recruits and pretty much keep them ‘fed’.. never for a moment think about anyone else in the tribe we must feed the top players.
Meanwhile the rim is growing..
The morals
Some of the rules obey impose I found intrusive and contradictory too the level to of experienced players we had...
Rules like not having the freedom to choose your own coplayers without getting the blessing of leadership.
Rules like not being able to protect or work with anyone outside the tribe.. this is one that disgusts me as most of the Obey players have players outside of the tribe doing their bidding with nothing only fake promises of protection..
Rules like this... in the event of a merge even externally or internally the 50% of the villages will be divided amongst members of the tribe... this rule is perfect but unfortunately it was not upheld even by the duke of Obey (Max one of the standing in dukes at present).. on the SBAD front which has reformed that many times I cannot remember it’s current name... Max was offered all the villages from on of the ex SBAD players.. now under the rules of the merges it states the 50% must be given to others within the tribe... however max decided to keep this one a secret... but I found out
They claimed that external merges were not included in the rule however this was a lie as I have screenshots showing that when I wanted too merge in my bashers account that the rule applied to me... with that said I find it sad that the duke wouldn’t offer a few free villages up too help a few landlocked core players... when I said this his said he would step down a Duke.. at least that’s shows some guilt
When I tried to merge an account into mine in my final days in obey...
An old friend joined this world to pp farm and built up his account a little further as a help to me..
Now this was after the bust up about external merges but I still felt it would be selfish to offer nothing too the tribe so I mailed leadership to divide up over 50% of my merge amongst the tribe.
I had the player send his sit and a confirmation mail to one of the duke accounts for safe keeping until preparations where made.
Just hours later one of the coplayers accepted this account sit and raised eyebrows of the players tribe so they began to force internal the account.
Instead of communicating with his co’s (Cody one of the standing Dukes) and letting them know not too accept the sit until the time was right... Cody said nothing as I’m sure your by now noticing is a common reoccurrence in the tribes leadership, bad communication.!
Leadership then announced that the account was up for grabs and the tribe was to claim and fire at will giving me zero claims too the account..
Dirty too say the least...
Hours after this I was dismissed and nobled with alot of my defence still in obey villages..
The reason..
The reason I was given for my dismissal was my use of bashers and I was apparently working against the tribe..
My basher and good friend larsk was promised immunity from the rules by Max one of the dukes and was a sworn ally of Obey after supporting them on numerous occasions and sending more support that players x5 his size that were actually in obey sent ...
A few days later Cody the other Duke overruled this and made him once more food too Obey even with his defence days away helping them.. (I was dismissed for working against the tribe??)
As you can imagine at this point I’m infuriated with the amount of fuck ups Obey can dress it up as much as they like but the fact remains... Obey did not go as planned and the cracks will begin too show soon.
The reason Obey seen me as working against the tribe is because of the way they dealt with the tribe Apex..
Obey planned to recruit the top player and council member of Apex ...Superdog from very early on and a few members from AMD however they had him stay in Apex and destroy it from the inside out planning ops to funnel Apex troops into highly stacked villages and eventually backstabbing all of them and attaking his own tribe that he was effectively helping lead. I found this out too as I know the duke of Apex and am good friends with him.
I had to find out obeys role in all this in other ways but I did aswell eventually and again was disgusted because obey gave Apex and agreement in exchange for a few free villages while knowing that they were planning to destroy that tribe in a very sad way..
Now you can all see what Obey really is fellow world 96 players, a group of individuals so desperate too win they will do anything to win.. And my message to vape don’t be so god dam stupid and wait your turn to get fucked over..
Rim tribes get ready and squeeze in use their mistakes too your advantage now and take this disease away!
My message to obey, thank you for ending this painful experience and enjoy the hate for worlds too come when you fuck this one up.
As for those I still talk too and enjoyed working with in obey make the changes to the leadership before they royally fuck it up any further.
Bring on the hate and all the low blows Obey I cannot wait
Darren
Divided Leadership
At the start the tribe was well established and there was a good vibe and I have to give all credit to nest, I strongly believe that every player in the tribe has a right to his/her opinion on tribe direction and what is best for the tribe. Nest for the most part did this, some things slipping past him due to a divided council that did not comunicate very well, mostly due to RL and some council members just replying the first thing they thought to get out of doing anything that involved some council work. An example of this is an under the table deal the was done with SBAD with regards to a banned account that was going to barb on the border between both tribes.
The deal meant that Obey would recieve one of the villages from this account and SBAD would retain the rest as it was their member. When I noticed this account barb I asked if there was any issue with me nobling the villages and the nest council responded.. something along the lines of go for it! No issues here... hours later nest logged in and informed us all of the deal that was done a week prior and I was now going too be the one to suffer due too lack of information from the council. As you can imagine this was annoying and a nasty set back this early on in the world. This was just one of many cock ups that could of been prevented.
It’s no secret that the Duke of the tribe nest has ‘momentarily’ stepped down.. personally I see it as permanent as I sense his interest has weakened as the world progressed. As a result I cannot see Obey lasting much longer and will most likely die off due to the three D’s division, disagreements and lack of direction. I know this mainly due to some of the reactions I recieved from other Obey members who where being ordered too force internal me, a lot of them have voiced other concerns that they are annoyed about too.
The Image
Moving even earlier into Obeys history we look at the Syn war, Obey loves to think its the best that does absolutely no wrong and has the cleanest reputation in the history of the game. Well in truth that is not the case... If it were not for the level of spying and level of information Obey was recieving from inside the syn family and S_Crew a lot of the Obey players would not of survived.. some may argue this is just a common part of the game and information is a power tool. I mean I personally dislike the strategy but what bugs me is the fact Obey tries to pretend too be better than this and that they are above it.
The other thing I want to comment on this is about the way obey handles it’s diplomacy and likes to remind other tribes of how no other tribe on W96 is possibly worth real diplomacy with them. However for those who do recieve and official agreement with obey the terms are often set so that obey can drop them at a moments notice like they did with SBAD.
This also has an internal effect on the tribe as the direction in obey has never been clearly set out. I’m a firm believer of aiming for a goal as a tribe and complete it before moving on.. but with obey the attitude right now it litterally war everything which is just arrogant. It has also been voiced a few times how disposable the relationship with vape is.
Let’s dig a little deeper into the diplomacy..
Being one of the most active players in obey it was hard not too realise what really was the driving force in obeys diplomacy and direction.. it was either about who shouted the loudest or who had the most friends in leadership to influence..
An example of this is how Obey are currently at war with Escape..
From day one the tribe vision was to eat it’s own quarter first and form a huge back line to stack the front lines from using the full advantage of the rim.
Where this went wrong.. well it all went wrong from the ‘uncharacteristic’ power move obey made early on recruiting some of the top accounts from Tip.. this invested a lot of tribes resources and time in defending those account and making offensive efforts to satisfy the new recruits and pretty much keep them ‘fed’.. never for a moment think about anyone else in the tribe we must feed the top players.
Meanwhile the rim is growing..
The morals
Some of the rules obey impose I found intrusive and contradictory too the level to of experienced players we had...
Rules like not having the freedom to choose your own coplayers without getting the blessing of leadership.
Rules like not being able to protect or work with anyone outside the tribe.. this is one that disgusts me as most of the Obey players have players outside of the tribe doing their bidding with nothing only fake promises of protection..
Rules like this... in the event of a merge even externally or internally the 50% of the villages will be divided amongst members of the tribe... this rule is perfect but unfortunately it was not upheld even by the duke of Obey (Max one of the standing in dukes at present).. on the SBAD front which has reformed that many times I cannot remember it’s current name... Max was offered all the villages from on of the ex SBAD players.. now under the rules of the merges it states the 50% must be given to others within the tribe... however max decided to keep this one a secret... but I found out
They claimed that external merges were not included in the rule however this was a lie as I have screenshots showing that when I wanted too merge in my bashers account that the rule applied to me... with that said I find it sad that the duke wouldn’t offer a few free villages up too help a few landlocked core players... when I said this his said he would step down a Duke.. at least that’s shows some guilt
When I tried to merge an account into mine in my final days in obey...
An old friend joined this world to pp farm and built up his account a little further as a help to me..
Now this was after the bust up about external merges but I still felt it would be selfish to offer nothing too the tribe so I mailed leadership to divide up over 50% of my merge amongst the tribe.
I had the player send his sit and a confirmation mail to one of the duke accounts for safe keeping until preparations where made.
Just hours later one of the coplayers accepted this account sit and raised eyebrows of the players tribe so they began to force internal the account.
Instead of communicating with his co’s (Cody one of the standing Dukes) and letting them know not too accept the sit until the time was right... Cody said nothing as I’m sure your by now noticing is a common reoccurrence in the tribes leadership, bad communication.!
Leadership then announced that the account was up for grabs and the tribe was to claim and fire at will giving me zero claims too the account..
Dirty too say the least...
Hours after this I was dismissed and nobled with alot of my defence still in obey villages..
The reason..
The reason I was given for my dismissal was my use of bashers and I was apparently working against the tribe..
My basher and good friend larsk was promised immunity from the rules by Max one of the dukes and was a sworn ally of Obey after supporting them on numerous occasions and sending more support that players x5 his size that were actually in obey sent ...
A few days later Cody the other Duke overruled this and made him once more food too Obey even with his defence days away helping them.. (I was dismissed for working against the tribe??)
As you can imagine at this point I’m infuriated with the amount of fuck ups Obey can dress it up as much as they like but the fact remains... Obey did not go as planned and the cracks will begin too show soon.
The reason Obey seen me as working against the tribe is because of the way they dealt with the tribe Apex..
Obey planned to recruit the top player and council member of Apex ...Superdog from very early on and a few members from AMD however they had him stay in Apex and destroy it from the inside out planning ops to funnel Apex troops into highly stacked villages and eventually backstabbing all of them and attaking his own tribe that he was effectively helping lead. I found this out too as I know the duke of Apex and am good friends with him.
I had to find out obeys role in all this in other ways but I did aswell eventually and again was disgusted because obey gave Apex and agreement in exchange for a few free villages while knowing that they were planning to destroy that tribe in a very sad way..
Now you can all see what Obey really is fellow world 96 players, a group of individuals so desperate too win they will do anything to win.. And my message to vape don’t be so god dam stupid and wait your turn to get fucked over..
Rim tribes get ready and squeeze in use their mistakes too your advantage now and take this disease away!
My message to obey, thank you for ending this painful experience and enjoy the hate for worlds too come when you fuck this one up.
As for those I still talk too and enjoyed working with in obey make the changes to the leadership before they royally fuck it up any further.
Bring on the hate and all the low blows Obey I cannot wait
Darren
