Simple: i see no reason whatsoever to switch threads for this debate other then for one reason and that is to make it harder for people to read back and make up their mind. Unless i see a valid reason to switch threads i won't follow. If there is a valid reason to switch threads then a new one should be made for it, not adding it to another thread which has a discussion that has nothing to do with what the one you have going on with me here or with parm here.
I think not spamming with off topic BS is a good reason. And you say another thread should be made for it, even though you accuse me of running at the thought of making another thread. Make up your mind Bad. Anyway, I still think its a cop out.
Get over yourself. You are not a victim here. You are presenting your views i'm presenting mine. I could as easily accuse you of trying to paint me and my tribesmates black. The bottom line is that i present my views and nothing more. You are more then eloquent enough to be able to present your counterpoints in such a way as to be clear to any who read this thread (or any other for that matter). The technique of blaming me to have a vendetta against you is a common one (interestingly also commonly employed by politicians), but the simple truth is that the reason i reply to your posts is because you present a point i wish to address. And like the spindoctor you are you just have to keep replying which then in turn prompts me to reply and so on. We've been over this a number of times now.
Oh, I know why you
keep posting, you aren't done with what you started, and with each response, you have to keep fighting. But that doesn't answer why you
started this to begin with. You never told me what brought you onto this thread to attack me like you have been. Was it something I said? :icon_redface:
So to summarize. Because you have such strong positive feelings for decide and tardis you cannot help them out in any meaningful way ingame because you would be unable to get enough sleep and get your work done and whatnot. In that case: grow a backbone and learn to close the window for TW when you need to work and whatever. Lots of us do this, it's not that hard at all. Oh, and lay off alcohol: if you can't say no to TW you won't be able to say no to booze&drugs either. Oh, and don't do sex, people get addicted to that too.
What do you say to something like this? You don't think that's too low of a blow for these PnP's? You want to knock me for having a problem with this, or for anything, even though you know jack about me, and all I see is proof of how low you are willing to go to beat me/discredit me. At first I thought about blocking you for this, since it is no longer about the game, or in-game characters, but something personal in RL, but my curiosity to see how much lower you will go has inspired me to change my mind... Well, that and my impeccable desire to stand up for myself. (For the record, I'm a binge drinking sexaholic... go figure. :lol
emphasis added above. As i said: to me this means you choose to not help your friends because it means a commitment. It is your choice, but i will keep pointing it out as long as you find it necessary to post on these boards thinking that this is actually a help to DN/Decide worth mentioning. It is not. Both those tribes are atm going down the drain (as sad as it is to have to say that about DN). They are in need of people helping them to manage the accounts in game. They are not in need for forum trolls who get offended easily.
You are
choosing to see
commitment as my reason for not playing in-game, even though you addressed the reason just one quote higher? I find your attention span fascinating. Anyway, I do like how you ignored the rest of that point that you quoted. Way to take it out of context Bad. That was not even a leading point of my debate, just a convenient one for you to touch on.
Nevertheless, I'm certainly not afraid of commitment. I'm married, I have children, I stick with my work, my family, and I stuck with Decide in game, as well as out since the start of this world around various RL limitations. But my reasons for not playing with Decide is not grounded on a fear of commitment, as I've already expressed, and my primary interest in playing 46 is almost entirely about getting to know people without the current in-game bias (it
was a last minute decision), not to play. You're just picking pieces out and twisting them, while ignoring the rest of my points.
I've played with several players before who bailed as soon as things got hairy. Or who only play in the start of a world and as soon as an account gets past 500k - 1 mil bail out. To me if you make a commitment to join a tribe you put in the time you have. RL can take people away and i won't fault them for that. But if you quit, then quit. If you don't, then you help out with the time you have (coplay or whatever). You however choose to stay in a sort of grey area where you feel it perfectly fine to spend a lot of time on the forum and do absolutely zilch in game. Even more: you feel the need to spend a lot of time in this thread which would not have existed had you been there for your friends IN GAME.
I won't disagree that I'd do more good in game, but I gave my reason for stepping away from the tribe, and you have pointed out why you not only fault my reasoning for it, but you see my actions as wrong. Not much I can say about that, other than there is more to this than you see, and given how you have treated my honesty so far, more than you deserve to see. Flame me Bad, it makes no difference. Whether I live up to your proposed standards has
no bearing on whether I am right or wrong here,
it's just is a question of whether you can convince people to not like me without knowing who I am.
Cry me a river why don't you. Boohoo, big bad Badlapje is picking on me pointing out things i'd rather have under rug swept. If you wouldn't post here as if you don't have the time to play i wouldn't have to point this out. You - from your admittance in the post i'm replying to right now - DO have the time to play, just not the mental self-control to keep the time you spend on it within bounds.
What are you talking about? I didn't say I didn't have time to play in-game, hell, I even said the opposite in one of the quotes you used! Have you even read them? You just bashed the shit out of me for the reason I
did give (keeping it within the limitations I do have), and now you are trying to bash me for a reason I
didn't give! :icon_surprised:
Look, I had time issues when I quit, and then things changed. A while later, I got some time, but that time became sporadic, unpredictable. My time is predictable now, but I have tried recently to get back in and proven myself to have troubles keeping myself out of the game when necessary while involved with Decide and Tardis, thus conflicting with real life issues.
You jumped my shit for it. I understand I don't live up to your expectations as a player, or a poster, or even a man for that matter, apparently, but my point of saying you are wrong isn't because I don't want to face these problems (I admitted to them, didn't I?) or opinions (knowing what you
don't know, I don't agree), or that I think you shouldn't attack me, its because you started this shit without instigation, and
for no apparent goal other than to discredit me. This is the PnP's, you are here doing what you do best, but that doesn't make you right.
Though, in my defense, I guess I am enough of a threat, even on PnP, to earn that much. :icon_wink: