seriously, I seriously don't like these types of threads. All of us whom think we are gifted players (and many of us are, but through failures and/or the luck of finding a good mentor) at one time belonged to lesser tribes. We too had to learn how the game was played as well as lead a tribe. Rarely do you find the best players throwing their opinions out in threads like this unless they are directly referring to an experienced, over hyped, premade tribe.
New players have to start somewhere.
New leaders have to learn somewhere
and...
through those lessons stronger players and leaders emerge.
So.. to all the named tribes in this thread let me say, keep trying and eventually you'll make a name for yourself and if the group of you stays together and your leader finds an experienced player that doesn't want to lead but will advise, then you stand a very good chance of being successful. If not in this world, then for sure a future world.
Good luck to you noob leaders and gamers. I was there once and I remember the frustrations too. Heck, for that matter, I'm still a noob. Just ask Jackandcoke.