It will sound like typical pnp nonsense because we are both now in BH (and noob can well speak for himself), but it is a gross distortion of the truth to paint the way that noob left RAM with how others have fled RAM (or other losing tribes). The only common elements are: 1. RAM was at war and 2. A player left.
noobaxes left on a matter of principal. He was in RAM, part of the RAM leadership and he tried to dissuade them from a course he deemed to be totally wrong for political, tactical and moral reasons making RAM doomed to fail. Being that RAM's treatment of DECIDE was at the center of this dispute and I was a duke of DECIDE it was a question I think everyone agrees that I took a keen interest in. Hey, even I saved some of the skype pastes from all RAM leaders concerned! When he felt he had exhausted all his avenues to change RAM's course to no avail, he took the high road and left the tribe. He didn't do it to save his neck. He did it because he was against what RAM was doing. When he left RAM, I think he pretty much knew he was assuring the destruction of the noobaxes account. One against RAM wasn't going to last. Yes, there was a flurry of a few players that followed him, but he didn't punch out on Day 1 with 5 other accounts just as an op was hitting RAM and pull all his frontline support. He didn't leave RAM because he was afraid to fight. He didn't leave and join another tribe because RAM was losing (because they weren't--YET). He didn't wait until things were on a clear downhill slide and then desert the sinking ship. So, from all I know, his glass house is pretty dammed bulletproof.
Until all this recent slinging of mud here,noobaxes was clearly one of the most respected players in W30 to date--for both his playing-skills and actions. Here on the pnp half-truths and lies get repeated often enough and some people think they are truth. All the mud thrown at him for his action regarding RAM are most unjustified.
I call BULLSHIT, loud and clear.
Taking the high road was Noobaxes leaving Ram solo>
Taking the low road is trying to pull every single player you can, and turning twisting the storyline anyway you can to tear the tribe apart. Granted, i approved at the time, but the fact remains that i would never do what you did to ram no matter how badly i was treated. Just look up the history of the first Phoenx tribe on w6... that was my doing and only one member joined that tribe.
Noobs high road was to delete and walk away. He never took that road. Dont try to lie and cover the fact up that Noobaxes stepped away from his shitty tribe. Just cause the situation is close to home...
You can talk Paj. Who's the one that's been sitting echao hmmmm? :icon_smile:
It goes without saying, NBD and Dinglenuts have (and may still) had multiple sits in =HG=.
Another case of the pot calling the kettle black. :icon_rolleyes:
*facepalm* That just goes to show how accurate your intel is then :icon_eek:
Whoever your little spy is, they aren't doing a very good job. :lol:
You sure it's not a double-agent feeding you purposely built dis-information?
Bronse will paste my screenshots for your refutions.
Welcome back
Mud slinging is always a two way show. I have done it through time against T-W-C, THE, RAM, Phoenx, etc... It's just an aspect of the game and generally, it is totally normal not to like it when you are opposing side of it and to love it when you are on the other side. In all honesty, I am not really bothered by what people think of my thoughts and posts. THE, RAM, T-W-C and Phoenx didn't and won't like what I will post and it's totally fine. It is not called mud slinging when you agree with it and I certainly have no lesson to take from Pajuno in that regard.
While Phoenx is a very good tribe, they always got events going their way with a lot of diplomacy. BD and RAM were not beaten by Phx alone (But by RAM/Loen/Phx and BH/Phx/Loen). When you look at the overall situation, you can see events that happened that made it quite easier than it should have been. People can call that mudslinging, I call it factual.
No, we will not take Phx insults forever despite the fact that I like most members in there. No, we will not accept that our ally have other shady deals while our plans were crystal clear and well known in advance. No, it's impossible to trust Phx anymore so there will be a lot of mud slinging for a LONG while.
Since it was Phx plans to war us eventually, it will have happen some time or another anyway.
Dude, you are full of shit.
I have proven via skype chats several times (ask tim if you doubt me) that Rethae approved Bnkr before Wild's demands....
I can prove that i NEVER approved EDS/lauradoom.
Face the facts, noob.
1. You were supposed to be my ally.
2. You demanded that echao be forbidden.
3. rethae APPROVED BNKRMIKE>
4. Wild demanded ALL of kd 55 and KD 65 villages. Just who the f does he think he is???
5. All of a sudden, BH had a problem with BNkr and he was refuted.
6. Phoenx made it abundantly clear in NOVEMBER that Lauradoom was not gonna be getting away. try to deny this fact??? Check the skype chat i have shown tim between Rethae and i.
7. BH recruits Lauradoom, stating that Phoenx knew and approved and never made a stink.. And that PHoenx is too far away.
8. rethae hides in skype, and demands copy/paste of my chat with troikos, instead of speaking to me directly.
So again, where in this timeline do you have the audacity to say phoenx played wrong??? We respected your right to echao, and you denied our right to Lauradoom??
Now, since the words were first tossed back and forth??
1. BH removed Phoenx privileges from Mapco. (thank you, you wont know why i say thank you for some time)
2. BH has begun negotiations with HG and LoEN to close down their war fronts to make ready for phoenx.
3. Noob has taken to lying in pnp, and producing skype chats
that dont even prove his points
4. Noobaxes has taken to sitting smurks, and in the process, the enemy HG.... But BH doesnt hug... (or recruit 2 million point players, or merge, or accept naps with their enemy duke Shipley's vlr tribe)
5. Lauradoom, the
SINGLE player that BH has chosen over their supposed ally... is now sitting norin account, also a rival account in HG>..
AGain, in the process....
1. brt fabricated the bullshit lie that Bronse was sitting msft.
2. Phoenx was recruiting HG to create fronts with BH...
this would be the first time in w30 that Pajuno acted as such, but BH says it so it MUST BE TRUE>
and this entire time my story, nor my arrogance has never changed.. and yet here we are. Another foolish tribe, full of foolish know it all "legends", is stepping up and targeting Pajuno as the hatred focus...
Too bad you will join Mcnally, *the rock*, Bullmastiff, Ungar the ugly, Zubizarious, Irock, Mavfan, Badlapje, gicusan, Rand, Dj brotoe, shipley, mberns, coach, vult, killbow, apoc, etc... the list goes on. Im still here, and this laundry list of rival leader tough guys isnt.
So, like my hero Goldberg used to say....
"Who's Next???"
