[14-11-2014 10:59:41] Jennifer: That isn't something I can answer. Quite frankly at this rate it'll easily be the end of November, if not sooner
If you're going to take things out of context and be obtuse there is little I can do to help you. Ronin and Infect were to go to war when DSy4 fell. DSy4 was not supposed to fold like a stack of cards on a windy day. That is not a declaration of a November launch, that is a polite jab at how quickly DSy4 was falling.
I could have easily teamed up with DSy4 to hit Infect (and many players, including Kevin, were furious that I refused to do so - which is one of the reasons Kevin put his trust into TR (Hah) and shied away from Ronin). I could have easily teamed up with TR to hit Infect early. TR was furious that we refused to set up an alliance with them and discuss working alongside one another for The Greater Good.
Amusingly enough, Ronin's refusal to ally with TR against Infect is why TR and Infect bedded down with one another to team up against Ronin. Honor, dignity, and leadership qualities are not exactly traits that our dear Mighty possess.
plus ciranore or shadow (who told me he is baron or something) told me you guys have already preparing for novemeber.
Neither have ever been barons in the tribe. There was a lot of speculation over what Ronin would be doing due to both Ronin and Infect leadership playing their cards close. We kept discussing an "after the breaks" time frame, but nothing was set in stone until early to mid-December.
I think it's rather obvious to just about everyone, from TT to Virus, DT to DSy4, on up to Infect that Ronin was sort of playing the political game. While I genuinely enjoyed my converations with many players, and was honest in our discussions, honesty does not equate openness, and pleasantries does not mean that Ronin was sitting still. Dukes maneuver their tribe into the best position available. Some simply maneuver more than others.
I told Googly back then I am 100% sure ronin will not declare on November.
Congratulations, you retroactively win the Obvious Award. Going to war for a few weeks and then having to stop everything for a break would have been silly. Which is why both sides were able to be fairly confident that nothing would happen until after the breaks. No one wants to be mid-op only to stop for a week and let the other side rebuild. So, yeah, I'm not terribly impressed with your impressive observational skills.
And me backstabbing ?
fyi I played for dsy4 till there was activity left .I did whatever I could under my limitation so I have no regret.
Oh, did you? Kevin was not still active when you left? Asahel, Impaler, Solace, Neyf? How many players did you abandon with nothing more than a quickly written out circ to the tribe that essentially boiled down to "Infect made me a deal and, after all of the things I was furious at them over, I decided saving my skin was more important than going down with my tribe. Kthxbye!!111" How many players did you watch Infect slowly consume, satisfied in the knowledge that you had made the right choice?
If I remember correctly, you scolded me for "abandoning" players that were nowhere near Ronin (and had been placed in another tribe by your own duke), but feel that you poncing off to the enemy tribe was a reasonable move.
But I agree with Googly, people that are still around probably aren't going to call you out on abandoning them for the enemy. Since, you know, those players were pretty emotionally defeated when you did that and faded off. So they're not around to say things like that : )
Besides, to the victor go the spoils, and I'm sure you worked harder to get where you are than, say, Kevin did.
All's fair in love and war.
I am not double faced like you
I have made it very clear throughout this world that I am not a good person. I am here for my tribe. I am not here to pet kittens, chase after handsome boys or make friends with everything in this world that has a pulse. Infect played this world for their own gain, DSy4 played this world for their own gain, and Ronin played this world for their own gain. A person can be friendly and still be on opposing sides; two tribes can be amiable and still expect trouble from the other. I will do what I can to make sure Ronin wins.
Excluding cheating, of course, which I leave to players who do a better job of it than I ever could:
[10/13/2014 6:19:20 AM] X: i am seriously pissed off
[10/13/2014 6:19:50 AM] X: and i am may steal accounts as well if i get chance, will not lie abt that
[10/13/2014 6:19:53 AM] X:
[10/13/2014 6:20:03 AM] X: done that before when i was pissed off
[10/13/2014 6:20:10 AM] Jennifer: Steal accounts?
[10/13/2014 6:20:14 AM] X: yeah
[10/13/2014 6:20:34 AM] X: somehow take an acc of opposition tribe
[10/13/2014 6:20:34 AM] LiriC (LowBudget): I can feel the love
And just for added fun, that conversation
wasn't taken out of context
You are upset that I didn't leap to your tribe's rescue and rush in to do away with the villainous Infect. Because I wouldn't, you lept in to take matters into your own hands, then became complacent. Googly is far kinder to you than deserved for petting you and telling you that you didn't do anything against DSy4. I hope you are able to appreciate how good a friend you have in him.
Gjkevin was only playing as he thought war will start on November. He lost the will when he knew it was lie.
As was pointed out, his heart was broken when Mighty stabbed him and the rest of ex-DSy4 in the back. He gave up the ghost and faded away into obscurity. He had put all of his faith in her, despite all of the evidence that TR would do nothing to help DSy4 out. When she slapped him in the face and told him to leave so the tattered remains of her precious council could remain safe from Infect he collapsed.
Well played by Infect - and I mean that. It was an absolutely beautiful move. But, beautiful though it may have been, I have a soft spot for the betrayed and broken, the lost and abandoned. Which is why TR gets to be ushered off of this world. Not that it matters to you, of course. In your version of events, 100% of DSy4 was already gone when you were, so what TR did was to no one of any consequence
you played cool .But game over now.eee
I played the game. Nothing more, nothing less. Nor is my game over; you know that as well as I do.
Try again. Bait me, Sidd. Act as if the world believed I was an innocent, precious, naive little girl and were truly stunned to discover otherwise.
As for our favorite Toll:
Jen,
You are wrong in your thoughts about me and Infect, i mean, seriously wrong on so many levels, it is laughable. You try to think you are clever or in the know, but the reality is that you are either a bold face liar or disillusion.....i think both, really....which, being that you believe you try to play in some fairy tail, moralistic and ethical way, your actions are anything but counter to that thought process.
The reality is that your tribe does an absolutely rubbish job at hiding their sitters, and that it's pretty obvious where you are when you're sitting an account. Simon is competent, Mystic is competent, Sidd is certainly competent. You spend a significant amount of time licking walls when you're sitting an account and it hurts to watch.
Your fake letter from the Pako account was also painfully obvious. You can deny these things, but you're sort of denying these things as if I will magically believe the word-vomit you're spraying all over the room. To do so would be
delusional and, were I to be honest, I'm more than a little
disillusioned in your presumed abilities given all of your bravado (especially after Googly so eloquently broke down your history). Your delusions of grandeur suggest a fairy
tale reality you've invented to escape the sorry truth.
So seriously.....if i am so bad, how the heck did i get +900 against such a skilled tribe....especially +363 by iteself against you....the most skilled and best leader we have ever seen. If i am so bad, then how did i take so many from you? You do realize that you and your 12 cos, plus Catra account for over 50% of Ronin losses.....but i guess its a dead account too (like you claim all caps against ronin is), because, well....your gaming abilities kinda match a dead account
I...really have no idea where to begin.
1. "You" have 12 caps against Ronin and have lost 50 villages. "You" have done painfully little in this war beyond gloat, whine at your tribe for not doing enough, attack barbs, and take sits so you can spend your time licking walls.
2. I have never said I am a skilled leader, nor a good one. I am a player with a good tribe to back me up, and a good tribe can make anyone look like a decent leader.
3. 300+ villages have been lost in a peninsula surrounded by some pretty good players who attacked en masse. It took nearly a dozen players giving us 100m+ ODD over a month to do that. During that time, we repeatedly took Defender, took Power from recaps over an op that didn't go as well as Infect expected it to, and even had Attacker awards. The account has been on the offense most of the time it's been under attack.
Villages were lost, territory was lost: it happens. Quite frankly, if you're the definition of a living account then I'll take a dead one. We're easily having way more fun over here. But of course, that could be play styles. I like being under pressure. You? You like...barbing. I guess. I haven't quite figured out what you enjoy doing. Maybe you're having fun ragging on Infect for not doing enough while you sit on your thumbs and whine about how your barb grabs are being catted to the ground.
But hey, to each their own. Who am I to look down on someone having fun?