Discussion: Feedback on Tribes!

DeletedUser74388

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These two are great ideas. Especially the ability to see incoming attack share, and maybe even share tag. It is hard watching someone go down in flames when you know you could have fixed it with a bit of work if you had seen it yourself.

IDEA NUMBER 1: Tribal support bank/reserve
An option where you can devote a certain amount of troops to the tribe bank/reserve
So if anyone want support they can apply for it. There can be someone or group who agrees that can grant the support request.
And it takes like 2hours for support to arrive.
This can be like a packages system.
And can probably share a reserve with allies if they accept.
Would love it if you gain more troops in the reserve if players add more troops.
Rating 2/5

IDEA NUMBER 2: See tribe members incoming attacks

This frustrate me, when someone is being gangbanged by multiple players and you want to help them but it's just too complex for you to see the attacks incoming.
Players should be allowed to give access to the tribe on whether they can see if players are attacking them.
Similar to command share. But incoming share.
Rating 5/5
 

DeletedUser74388

Guest
I know this idea rolls back some "improvements" made to the tribes over the years, but for those who would prefer a non family tribe world, how about an occasional world that does not allow tribes to link forums and claims to make each tribe work more independent of other tribes. Back to the old school where each tribe was independent and you had to dream up some external forum if you really wanted to go that far and share claims with multiple tribes. It puts a strain on multiple tribes working together to dominate a world quickly and would make individual tribes have to work more closely with the members of their tribe.

2nd idea, for tribe leaders to have some sort system to plan coordinated attacks. I typically have to use 2 separate external sites to do any sort of planning. It would be great to have something built in to be able to assign players to villages or players to players, and the ops would automatically add into the noble claim system as well. Then if Im dreaming some monitoring to show if they were successful.
 
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DeletedUser

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15 man tribe limit just for one world would be interesting to try and see how it would work out
This would be pretty amazing and nice.
And then add that there's no family/alliance win but only 1 tribe can win.. o_O Hahaha. I'll see a lot of merger's happening starting from day 1.. :D
And then the world map settings starts in the core but expanding like those in w5. :D That would really be awesome. :)

2nd idea, for tribe leaders to have some sort system to plan coordinated attacks. I typically have to use 2 separate external sites to do any sort of planning. It would be great to have something built in to be able to assign players to villages or players to players, and the ops would automatically add into the noble claim system as well. Then if Im dreaming some monitoring to show if they were successful.
Or we could just revert back the allowing of external tribe forum sites to be legal instead of the use of the internal game of tribal forum.. :D
 

Brutus-Maximus

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I play on casual 2 and there seems to be one big battle forming with family tribes taking their sides etc. Therefore it would be nice to either increase the member cap or allow a group of tribe to be better shown as a family etc. If you could also make it so one person could run the whole family that would help as you wont have to entrust someone with all your players and prevent a coup.

Finally if you could increase the points range to give me a bit more food that would be great too.
 

Blackwolf66

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Greetings Tribal Warriors!

We would love to hear your feedback on how you think Tribes can be enriched within the game. From general improvements to very specific feature suggestions! Get your creative juices flowing!

What would improve your experience within a tribe?
What would help develop a solid bond with your tribe?
What tribal features would you like to see?
Whatever you can think of!

Looking forward to hearing your ideas!

Aliyah.


Tribal Wars Team.
I think it is unfair to not let the nonpremium players participate in the Nobles Fair. Many have played Tribal Wars for yrs such as myself. Even though i do not always have money to keep a premium account i have on many occasions bought premium points.
Thanks
BLACKWOLF66
Michael williams
 

DeletedUser

Guest
Since the game is called TRIBAL WARS, and in some worlds there is a lot of hugging and not enough warring, you could implement a system which rewards tribes based on how many wars they have won. This could be in the form of offence/defence/village bonus' for the tribe, or some other form of strong incentive to urge tribes to go to war. Bring back multiple wars with multiple tribes and less hugging.

Saying this, I would like to see the diplomacy updated a lot. Potentially making binding agreements that are implemented into the game. I.E. if you set a NAP with a tribe, from that set date it is impossible to send attacks to their villages...an error message will come up etc.

Also, not sure this would be suited for every world, and may change through settings, but to bring more wars back into the game, there could be a limit to only 1 alliance and 1 NAP at any 1 time...make things a bit more difficult for tribes to hug their way to the top.
 

DeletedUser119753

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Know there will be many who oppose the following suggestion citing "lack of time, if implemented, etc...but, perhaps innogames should look more closely at "co-play" which currently, they don't encourage but don't discourage, either! Its no coincidence that world's are quickly dominated by tribes made up of accounts with up to SIX people per account! You ban those who try to gain an advantage by breaking the rules and having two ACCOUNTS on ONE world...but, turn a "blind eye" to ONE account having up to SIX people running it 24/7.
We ALL know that there are those who WILL "exploit" any kind of advantage, hence why rules include punishment for multiple accounts on one world, "push accounts" and even hacking...as all HAVE been used, in the past. So WHY is NUMBERS on an account, co-playing NOT regulated?
And yes, the above DOES relate to how tribes could be improved, as if co-play was restricted, we might have a more "level" playing field, and those who DON'T co-play or belong to "premades" such as those who are NEW to the game, might have time to "gel" BEFORE the above has gained such a HUGE advantage, that many will see it "pointless" trying to compete any more and either leave to try a "new" world, or just quit the game altogether. As what is the point of all the new features innogames are trying to bring in to make the game more interesting, when issues regarding Co-play, where the top tribes can have up to six people co-playing EACH account.. remains.
Take for example the new "Watchtower" feature..how many players/tribes will have the opportunity to get to the point where they are ABLE to utilise it, BEFORE those who quickly dominate the game and rankings through co-played accounts overwhelm them with sheer brute force, and bring the world to an early (and unsatisfactory) end?!
 

DeletedUser

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Co-play discussion

Thank you for your feedback however this is thread is for recommendations for improving tribal features in game not for age-old discussions on co-playing - there are numerous threads about this - please use the search function to find them and discuss away there. Thanks.


Thank you everyone for taking the time to share your ideas so far, it's an interesting read :)
 

nowitsover

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I would suggest implementing a tribe offense defense coordinator status in a tribe with that account having (if granted by the member just like the command sharing feature) an overview of member accounts troopcounts and compositions. Like the troopcounter script but including all members troops.

It may be the duke account but doesn`t necesserily have to be but could as be an appointed account with player(s) who have the duty of cordination incase the duke account isn`t handling that particular duty.

This would make OPs planning and defending much easier and save a lot of time.
 

Deleted User - 10017355

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It would also be nice if the notebook could be expanded. The bracket limit is simply annoying when doing large ops.

This would be great, although unrelated to tribes.

Another idea that I have is to do with in tribe communication. The introduction of the tribal group chat has been, well yeah. It's a group chat for your entire tribe, just like the forums but it can't be muted. However, the idea of group chats could make small local OPs easier.

Say you are conducting a 3-4 player local OP, you don't want to post all the ramblings in the forums for various reasons so you are left only with single messages. You can send out a circ to all the players invovled but replies are only seen by the sender and recipient. By introducing customizable group chat/mails multiple players could share a mail amongst themselves. This would allow for quick and easy communication; key to all OPs.
 

DeletedUser118606

Guest
It would be cool if there was some way to access your old tribes archive if it disbands. Retain the level of access you had in the tribe so you can look over old logs.
as long as it's only due to a disband, since otherwise, it's an Intel security risk, however, it would be great! I've lost so many important training and other posts when either I had to disband my tribe or the tribe I was in disbanded... especially when there's incoming attacks that were posted!

That or implementing an actual "Alliance/NAP Terms" feature. Like a length of time minimum or "No alliances with/No Wars against" or some similar feature.
also, there's more than one type of NAP, and it would be nice if there was a way for members and leaders to tell right away at a glance which type they are.

the 4 most common are as follows:

regular NAP
MUTUAL SUPPORT NAP
MUTUAL ATTACK NAP
MUTUAL SUPPORT AND ATTACK NAP (usually used when trying to work towards ally status)

Permanently having low members limit I.e 20-30

having played during the time in which member limit was commonly between 100-300 members, I don't agree with it being permanent. there's a place in playing that limits of those sizes should return on at least some sort of regular basis (perhaps every year or two? and have those worlds go back to no time limitations for world dominance either). the use of having family tribes really is a throwback to those days...let those who prefer low member limits have their worlds and those who've been forced to use family tribes to high limit worlds...yet without necessarily eliminating family tribes on the low limit worlds.

Some of my biggest complaints about tribes are in the later stages of the game (and sometimes even in the early stages of the game) theres never enough room for players, no matter what you set the tribe member limit to, if your tribe gets good enough, people ALWAYS want to join and sometimes you want to add them but you don't have enough room. So here is my suggestion, make the tribe limit adjustable in game. You seem to have everything geared toward people spending PP so make the tribe limit able to expand by tribes gathering and spending PP.

For example, you start with a set limit say 30 members. You have a tribe bank that members are able to donate PP to. Once you have collected a required amount of PP, the leader can buy 5 more roster spots. Next required amount of PP required for next roster spots is a bit more, etc. You could eventually have this cap out at some higher number, say 3 times the original tribe limit, but this makes people work together to earn spots, gives an option for tribes who want to be small to be small, or tribes who want to be big to get big, but make them pay for it. If a tribe disbands and theres PP in the tribe bank, then it gets divides among tribe members.

For example:

Starting member limit 30
To get to limit 35 tribe must pay 1000 PP
To get to limit 40 tribe must pay 1500 PP
To get to limit 45 tribe must pay 2000 PP
To get to limit 50 tribe must pay 2750 PP
To get to limit 55 tribe must pay 3500 PP
To get to limit 60 tribe must pay 5000 PP
ETC all the way to a max cap of say 90 or 100 etc.


This makes tribes work toward a common goal and makes you money at the same time (Or makes people spend their pp on something else other than resources)
You could also have various settings within the tribe that once you donate PP to the tribe your roster spot is quaranteed for a certain amount of time so that tribes cant take advantage of members by requiring them to donate then kicking them after they do, there could be some sort of guaranteed membership policy based on how much PP you donate that quaranteed membership, this encourages people to donate without fear of getting used. Anyhow, the idea is there, you guys are smart enough to brainstorm other ideas on how to implement it and make it fair to all players.
the pp. bank for the tribe could or should also be accessible for gifting pps to members who cant afford it...for instance, have the first idea be like a savings account and that have a feature like a checking account...

would be nice if we could form armies that we can march around instead of just a set amount of time until it reaches a village, also hidden villages in forests or up on mountains and battles can take place anywhere, can also setup an ambush on your opponent, a smaller army has a greater stealth bonus so they can hit and run and perform guerrilla warfare tactics and soldiers gain experience from victories and can become elite units and you can also use your elites to train greater skilled recruits
we tried the camps feature years ago...it flopped... not totally certain why, by the time i went to a world that had them and was going to try it out myself, they had discontinued it :(

15 man tribe limit just for one world would be interesting to try and see how it would work out
speed rounds use all different size tribes in the past. from 3 to i think 20

Probably mentioned a thousand times, and I know it won´t be changed.

Love all the achivements, flags, quests etc. Its OK to be able to pay for a 20% increase in production and things like that...BUT the possibility of directly buying rescources is ruining the game (at least for me). When you start right beside a PP-w..e and he has 5 villages before you even have built the academy, its ridicilous. And yes i am online (alot!) and I farm (alot!), but its useless. Yes you might make money on it, but in the long run you won´t get a very large influx of new players. And as time goes by more and more people will just get theire PPs from the market exchange, not from paying.

Take away the possibility of buying rescources, it will dramaticly increase the chances, at least for me, for me to continue to play the game.
if you removed the possibility of buying resources through the px, you would then lose the ability to buy pps through the px too...

Know there will be many who oppose the following suggestion citing "lack of time, if implemented, etc...but, perhaps innogames should look more closely at "co-play" which currently, they don't encourage but don't discourage, either! Its no coincidence that world's are quickly dominated by tribes made up of accounts with up to SIX people per account! You ban those who try to gain an advantage by breaking the rules and having two ACCOUNTS on ONE world...but, turn a "blind eye" to ONE account having up to SIX people running it 24/7.
We ALL know that there are those who WILL "exploit" any kind of advantage, hence why rules include punishment for multiple accounts on one world, "push accounts" and even hacking...as all HAVE been used, in the past. So WHY is NUMBERS on an account, co-playing NOT regulated?
And yes, the above DOES relate to how tribes could be improved, as if co-play was restricted, we might have a more "level" playing field, and those who DON'T co-play or belong to "premades" such as those who are NEW to the game, might have time to "gel" BEFORE the above has gained such a HUGE advantage, that many will see it "pointless" trying to compete any more and either leave to try a "new" world, or just quit the game altogether. As what is the point of all the new features innogames are trying to bring in to make the game more interesting, when issues regarding Co-play, where the top tribes can have up to six people co-playing EACH account.. remains.
Take for example the new "Watchtower" feature..how many players/tribes will have the opportunity to get to the point where they are ABLE to utilise it, BEFORE those who quickly dominate the game and rankings through co-played accounts overwhelm them with sheer brute force, and bring the world to an early (and unsatisfactory) end?!
multiple cos make it so people can play this game and still have a real life! i was around when coplayers got to go from the occasional account to being the regular account. imho, and I'm one of those who used to bitch about it, and had a and still have a difficult time finding and keeping good cos, to stop bitching about it and get your own set of cos! your family will love you for it!

and coplaying IS regulated, ask anyone who either has a co or co team or is or has been a coplayer!!! especially when there's separate accounts on mutual worlds!!! we use support more than single players (at least i do anyway) to make sure the rules are followed!

I would suggest implementing a tribe offense defense coordinator status in a tribe with that account having (if granted by the member just like the command sharing feature) an overview of member accounts troopcounts and compositions. Like the troopcounter script but including all members troops.

It may be the duke account but doesn`t necesserily have to be but could as be an appointed account with player(s) who have the duty of cordination incase the duke account isn`t handling that particular duty.

This would make OPs planning and defending much easier and save a lot of time.
however, it takes away personal responsibility from your members... that's always been a method of finding out not only troop counts, but members activity level and team playing j/s

Id love to see the tribe size be increased or just do another classic world. I miss the old days of having 500 people in the tribe and not being able to know all of them. haha
me too...and the team playing was much better back then...

This would be great, although unrelated to tribes.

Another idea that I have is to do with in tribe communication. The introduction of the tribal group chat has been, well yeah. It's a group chat for your entire tribe, just like the forums but it can't be muted. However, the idea of group chats could make small local OPs easier.

Say you are conducting a 3-4 player local OP, you don't want to post all the ramblings in the forums for various reasons so you are left only with single messages. You can send out a circ to all the players invovled but replies are only seen by the sender and recipient. By introducing customizable group chat/mails multiple players could share a mail amongst themselves. This would allow for quick and easy communication; key to all OPs.
the elite tribes many times have local forum rooms for teams... have you tried that yet? this way those tabs/rooms can be muted or just ignored

I know this idea rolls back some "improvements" made to the tribes over the years, but for those who would prefer a non family tribe world, how about an occasional world that does not allow tribes to link forums and claims to make each tribe work more independent of other tribes. Back to the old school where each tribe was independent and you had to dream up some external forum if you really wanted to go that far and share claims with multiple tribes. It puts a strain on multiple tribes working together to dominate a world quickly and would make individual tribes have to work more closely with the members of their tribe.

2nd idea, for tribe leaders to have some sort system to plan coordinated attacks. I typically have to use 2 separate external sites to do any sort of planning. It would be great to have something built in to be able to assign players to villages or players to players, and the ops would automatically add into the noble claim system as well. Then if Im dreaming some monitoring to show if they were successful.
yeah an improvement or a few to the attack planner ig would be nice. I've still not got the hang of it! perhaps it's because i play on phone using the app at times and other times use a gaming browser (Puffin) set to desktop, but even when i tried learning how to use it, it wasn't feasible at all...and speaking of the ig planner, it would be great if it would be able to be set by allies as well as tribe...not all coordinated ops are done by just one tribe.

Since the game is called TRIBAL WARS, and in some worlds there is a lot of hugging and not enough warring, you could implement a system which rewards tribes based on how many wars they have won. This could be in the form of offence/defence/village bonus' for the tribe, or some other form of strong incentive to urge tribes to go to war. Bring back multiple wars with multiple tribes and less hugging.

Saying this, I would like to see the diplomacy updated a lot. Potentially making binding agreements that are implemented into the game. I.E. if you set a NAP with a tribe, from that set date it is impossible to send attacks to their villages...an error message will come up etc.

Also, not sure this would be suited for every world, and may change through settings, but to bring more wars back into the game, there could be a limit to only 1 alliance and 1 NAP at any 1 time...make things a bit more difficult for tribes to hug their way to the top.
regarding setting diplo many of us tend to use the Nap or or enemy settings to see where tribes are in the area, which is very helpful when you dont have premium and therefore unable to use map highlights feature... so, if the above settings suggestion was implemented, there would need to be something to take the place of using the diplo feature for that purpose

I think it is unfair to not let the nonpremium players participate in the Nobles Fair. Many have played Tribal Wars for yrs such as myself. Even though i do not always have money to keep a premium account i have on many occasions bought premium points.
Thanks
BLACKWOLF66
Michael williams
if you can't play that ig game event, then i recommend you put in a support ticket...i don't have premium on any of my worlds and thats 2 accounts, and I've had no problems with that!

my complaint on events is on when you have to redeem stuff rather than getting it right away, because I don't always login quick enough to redeem all the medals or gems or whatever

This doesn't have anything to do with tribes specifically but I always thought you should be able to move noblemen around to different villages kinda like re-stationing your pally in a new village. Its just a hastle when you want to move noblemen around, having to suicide them then re-que them. Just make an option where you can move a nobleman and give like the six hour delay like pallys have, would make it much simpler for re-arranging trains, etc.
The original poster is correct. I believe what he is saying is he would like the ability to aggregate offence troops at village A before launching an attack at village B. The reason for this is one hit of 10k troops is more effective than 5 strikes of 2k troops, it is a way to balance out the advantage of the defence where all defence troops are aggregated but the offence hits individually.
i see what you mean, but you neglect a variable:, your opponent would be able to do the same thing! and with much higher off/def troop counts! az for your argument for that feature, get your skills levels up! if you make it so those 5 2_k deployments hit ms apart, it's just as if it came all at once...and all at once isn't always the best way to go!

relocating nobles has always been possible: send to a barb near
original location as support with an attack hitting ms later...cats are good for that...and re-educating them where you need them
 
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Deleted User - 10017355

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Random not related to previous posts but need to say
There need to be support for smaller players
The game is fundamentally flawed when million + point players can wipe out players under 100K
Need to make it harder for this to happen
Handy cap players over 1 million points or as low as 500K to give smaller players a chance to enjoy the game
Cheers

There is, it's called morale, and it already treats larger players rather unfairly.
 

DeletedUser

Guest
Random not related to previous posts but need to say
There need to be support for smaller players
The game is fundamentally flawed when million + point players can wipe out players under 100K
Need to make it harder for this to happen
Handy cap players over 1 million points or as low as 500K to give smaller players a chance to enjoy the game
Cheers
 

DeletedUser

Guest
There is, it's called morale, and it already treats larger players rather unfairly.
Stating the obvious (morale)
Larger players should be encouraged to fight other large players & tribes get the worlds moving
 

DeletedUser3160

Guest
Ok, tribish...

I really hate it when using the market that people from tribes we are at war with can trade with me. Since the war decleration is part of the game it should also be posible to 1) completely forbidd trade between tribes at war or 2) have the posibility to deny people from tribes you are at war with to trade with you.
 

DeletedUser115558

Guest
Excellent Participation and Feedback !!!

Some Suggestions are really good If Innogames Accept them and change TW accordingly a lot positive changes we may see in future games and also number of players may also increase..

In those suggestions Some i would like to add

1. A lot of players all over the world and also on different server complains about backstabbing,
1.A During war few players left and join enemy tribe/or form another tribe
1.B Some deny to send attack on enemy player as s/he is friend from previous world.

In Some countries as if member/s of political party wants to leave and form another party or wants to join other party need 1/3 members acceptance of total members of that party participation in parliament. Less than 1/3 majority they wont be able to move anywhere, if still they leave the party than there candidature as a members of parliament get rejected/cancelled.

Same we can adopt here in TW, no less than 1/3 of the total tribe member will be able to leave and join Another tribe, If still some wants to leave than they wont be able to join/Found another tribe for next 10 days.

Also to avoid 1.B type of backstabbing, Give a power to Duke of the tribe Issue a time bounded Whip to tribe member during War time. If anyone failed to Send attack or support Duke of tribe may Ban that account for specified time period. this is like same in parliament house if any member of parliament issue whip to all its members if anyone missed his/her candidature as member of parliament debarred.

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Also in my opinion there must be a plateform require in where tribes can layout NAP/Alliance Terms which Auto visible to All members of tribes. This avoid under the table deals and clarity in relationship among tribes and members,this avoid confusion dirty gaming.

Here we all know that these relationships terms are mix, objective as well as subjective, like NAP duration 10 days, 15 days etc, or Cool down period if nap breach by any party involved. which can be used as tool, for example : 2 tribes sets cooldown period 48 hrs. and after some time one tribe cancelled the NAP, All parties involve may not able to attack each other untill cooldown period impose.
 

May Davis

Guest
Some really great suggestions here but I think there is a premise that needs to be considered - How to make the game enjoyable and interesting.

I've stopped playing for a few years end of world wars started eating heavily into my real life. I loved the game back then cause there was nothing else like it out there back then.

On my return I find the UI very cluncky and not very intuitive. I've tried TW2 but really find it even more cluncky. I you want to entice new TW players you need to look at adding feature rich social interfaces that are easy to use. I'm happy to expand on this if you are interested - Life is social on any digital platform and this one is not as cutting edge as it use to be.

Premium points you simply can't stay ahead of the game if you don't have them. I'd happily stop my Adblock and you could allow me points for every ad impression or click through, but your ads do not display properly and the loading of ads severely lag any action.

You also no longer have purchasing option using airtime in my country - it's currently the biggest payment format on the African continent. I won't use my credit card online and to load money into paypal is a process.

the cost of premium points is very hectic when you working on my current exchange rate 13.5 to 1 (And that's on a good day) which takes it outside many peoples league. It would be an idea to set a base rate for different currencies so we can also obtain some premium and level the playing fields
 

Fuzzypuppy

Guest
I would like to see a new unit. Spy, trained in the Academy. It would work somewhat like scouts, but by sending them to a village. you could find out who is sending support troops that are defending the village.
 

Abysm

Guest
There's already a instant chat feature for members of the same tribe. I'd like to see that instant chat feature branch out. For instance, tribes on Casual are mostly big families, but you can only IM your own tribe and not the whole family. Make it to where you can share a instant chat between your tribe and any number of selected tribes you are allied with.
 
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