A Lesson In Diffusion Declares War On Fusion and Rank6

[BGeorge3]

So, here we are, just over a week after the start of the grace period with Fusion. Sadly, however, they had broken the grace period only a few days into it. Krystalballty initially broke the grace period, followed later by Instinctive Survival, Greenghost, and Xanath. However, Stormbringer2012 kept their side of the grace period, regardless.

People have judged me personally, or made assumptions about how exactly things happened. I have my reasons for leaving the way we did. I knew what I was doing when I left, and I purposefully put the blame on me for those who wished to have somebody to view as the "traitor" or "backstabber", even though I was neither. I was loyal up until the moment I left Fusion. However, people will believe what they want to believe. We, Stormbringer2012, know that we did our part for TSU/TSUPER/Loading/Fusion. We gave those tribes and players a long time to get things together, but ultimately, it was just the same thing, over and over. It was just terrible, and I was personally fed up with the way things were. If people want to see a bunch of things that went on behind closed doors, and the personal conversations that various people have had before/after Stormbringer left Fusion, then read each and every one of the spoilers. It'll probably take some time.

Spoiler: October 5th, 2016 - CM State of the tribe

Spoiler: CM from October 9th, 2016 - North pulling Defense

Spoiler: October 10th, 2016 - In-Game Chat with nghtrdr

Spoiler: October 10th, 2016 - In-Game Chat with CuddlyTeemo

Spoiler: October 10th, 2016 - In-Game Chat with crampfenburg

Spoiler: October 11th, 2016 - In-Game Chat with skype

Spoiler: October 14th, 2016 - In-Game Chat with Light one

 

[BGeorge3]

Spoiler: October 14th-16th - A private conversation between a member of Fusion and a member of North

Spoiler: October 10th-16th, 2016 - In-Game Chat with Pam of mmaarouf

Spoiler: Fusion Forums - Responses To My Exit Post (Posts made from the time I left on the 10th, to some point on the 11th)

nghtrdr on 10.10.2016 at 05:28

For the record, I've yanked my support but I'm not going to go after Storm unless he starts it. He's stuck alongside me since TSUPER and I don't have any enthusiasm for fighting him.

Increasingly I'm thinking we should just STACHE the core (W6 piece of history, for any newer folk).

skype on 10.10.2016 at 07:45

Good luck fusion your giing to need it?

Between North and this who is gonna stab those who stay first? Pathetic.

War

crampfenburg on 10.10.2016 at 09:51

Can only speak as you find,and Storm has been sitting my account for the last 2 weeks,so if he was going to stab us he could have wrecked mine easy enough

He has sent all my support back over night,and ,as Night says, weve been friends for most of this world,so I wont attack unless they do

Ive spoken to Ticko also since I got back,and he says as long as NAP is in place North wont break it,of course weve heard that many times in the past,but again, unless they do, I wont make a move

Rather than look at those that have left,we should maybe look at ourselves,and the reasons they have left,the reasons we are losing,and the reasons why this tribe is failing so badly in so many ways

Look at your own accounts,do you have def not on front lines?,do you always help in Ops?,do you always support others?

I suspect the answers tell you all you need to know really

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CuddlyTeemo on 10.10.2016 at 09:59 

Get ready to remove storm before rhythm does

We will loose a lot of ground in 43..

Edited by CuddlyTeemo on 10.10. at 10:00

fabster1 on 10.10.2016 at 11:42

This is not what we need at this time.is it his intention to attack us when the grace period is over?
Why would he do that?....strange behaviour I think.

Edited by fabster1 on 10.10. at 11:42

CuddlyTeemo on 10.10.2016 at 13:12

now he wants the destruction of our trbe, so i suggest breaking the grace period and nobling him ASAP, before the enemy gets his villas

Instinctive Survival on 10.10.2016 at 14:35

nghtrdr wrote:


Increasingly I'm thinking we should just STACHE the core(W6 piece of history, for any newer folk).



The thought has crossed my mind nght. It truly has..


crampfenburg on 10.10.2016 at 16:59

Well,having read the external forum ,it does appear that in 7 days he is going to start attacking the tribe,so prepare accordingly

nghtrdr on 10.10.2016 at 17:15

Quite: https://i.imgur.com/fnN3y3A.png. Semi-ironically, most of my defence was with Storm.

Instinctive Survival wrote:
The thought has crossed my mind nght. It truly has..


It would be amusing to sit back and watch them all scramble desperately to clean up the barbs. Leaving the core empty always creates fireworks.

mmaarouf on 11.10.2016 at 01:14

I have been friends with Stormy for awhile now. I do not want to attack him, just because he was unhappy in the tribe. That is everyone's right and does not in ANY way make me think he is a traitor.

Pam

rawdeath21 on 11.10.2016 at 02:42

I won't attack him but like nght said if he attacks us then all bets are off an i will rim him with no hesitation.

 

[BGeorge3]

Spoiler: Conversations with Cristal from the 9th to the 11th of October

[10/9/2016 10:09:32 PM] Cristal: how are you going to be on stacks?
[10/9/2016 10:10:13 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: lol. Depends on a lot of things.
[10/9/2016 10:14:13 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: I've pulled all support for now. The only one that may hurt is BigSecZ.
[10/9/2016 10:14:29 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: Well, and Chippy/Myself if Rhythm hits.
[10/9/2016 10:14:47 PM] Cristal: okay, I'll check with bigsecz about their status.
[10/9/2016 10:15:12 PM] Cristal: you are close in that area, and it's likely to need trench warfare anyway at this point. we don't have the troops to completely stack the entire front as high as it would need to be
[10/9/2016 10:16:16 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: okay, I'll check with bigsecz about their status.My stacking is what helped them from losing more to Bullet.
[10/9/2016 10:16:40 PM] Cristal: I remember.
[10/9/2016 10:17:25 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: lol. It's probably a bad idea for me to be on TW tonight. lol. I'm in the mood to make some bad decisions. :x
[10/9/2016 10:17:38 PM] Cristal: I'm almost scared to ask what
[10/9/2016 10:18:45 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: Simply leave Fusion and do what I want, like I've been contemplating for a while now.
[10/9/2016 10:19:54 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: But Chippy hasn't exactly gotten back to me on that plan.
[10/9/2016 10:20:08 PM] Cristal: chippy was one of the people who asked me to come back
[10/9/2016 10:26:49 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer:



[Monday, September 12, 2016 12:33 AM] Gas Head- stormbringer:
<<<I,m losing interest tbh
[Monday, September 12, 2016 12:34 AM] Gas Head- stormbringer:
<<< there is no morale or togetherness here
[Monday, September 12, 2016 12:41 AM] Gas Head- stormbringer:
<<< maybe we should go solo yet we may loose all our support

In addition, I've been fed up with the same crap for a long time. Whether it be TSU, Loading, TSUCK, TSUPER, Fusion, whatever. With every merge, we've taken in a better tribe into a weaker one, and it's like the inactivity and lack of participation, keeps infecting, and spreading like a disease into the new members we've recruited. Ever since I joined TSU, It's almost always felt like we've lacked a solid direction. Somebody isn't happy with somebody or something, people throwing fits everywhere, people going inactive, and a seemingly endless supply of internals. Then we're sitting around waiting weeks for OPs to happen, and they keep flopping.
[10/9/2016 10:29:30 PM] Cristal: fair enough.
[10/9/2016 10:31:35 PM] Cristal: Brandon, I won't beg you to stay. it's up to you. I had hoped with the new way of rolling out ops, to make them more local, that it would help. there is nothing I can say that is just going to make things better. There's not. so.. do what you feel like you need to do.
[10/11/2016 8:16:30 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: "and complain about me"
I didn't complain about you.

As for adding you to the chat. I only did so because War had suggested that I should talk to you and/or him on Skype. Since you are the duchess, it's only fair that I added you to the chat as well to see what I had to say.

I'm sorry if you take it personally. It's not meant to be like that. I'm sorry that you also felt the need to remove me. :/
[10/11/2016 8:17:59 PM] Cristal: It wasn't personal until you took it upon yourself to list a wall of text airing your complaints to the world. It wasn't personal until you basically said you plan to attack in 7 days. When you were just going to leave, it wasn't personal. the way you left made it personal
[10/11/2016 8:18:33 PM | Edited 8:18:28 PM] Cristal: and you were removed so you don't add me back to any random rooms without permission. As you mentioned, I have a tribe to run. You aren't in it. If you want to talk to me, approach it correctly in the future.

Spoiler: October 14th, 2016 - Skype Chat with a member of Fusion

[10/14/2016 9:57:49 PM] Anon: So Brandon between you and me is rhythm supporting you?
[10/14/2016 10:09:25 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: No, and both War and Jennie know that
[10/14/2016 10:10:42 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: I even took a screenshot to show that we were not self-stacking or receiving support from Rhythm.
[10/14/2016 10:11:00 PM] Anon: Some still believe you are, I trust your not. We are being attacked around your villages by rhythm that is why they think that.
[10/14/2016 10:11:57 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer:
Anon - Thursday 10:14 PM
> Well the truth is you made it very clear you are going to attack. So they planning thing, and some one mentioned you and rhythm working together.

Psssh. It's nothing more than assumptions as to what we're doing. The only people that know are the ones on Stormbringer.
[10/14/2016 10:12:41 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer:
Anon - Today 10:11 PM
> Some still believe you are, I trust your not. We are being attacked around your villages by rhythm that is why they think that.

-_- That was happening for like a week before I left.
[10/14/2016 10:13:14 PM] Anon: That was also pointed out.
[10/14/2016 10:14:01 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: If we were working with them in that, why would we have stacked BigSecZ's villages? Why wouldn't we have attacked right after we left?

Spoiler: Skype conversation about the Grace Period

[2:17:26 AM] Jennie: (think)

Brandon: "Well. There's not really much to say at the moment. Fusion broke the grace period and sent attacks, Stormbringer hasn't attacked back. People speculating and making assumptions. That's about where we're at. (bandit)"

Cant blame those who did when you outright said to consider you hostile...it was a self proclaimed Grace period no speaking to council no asking just I'm leaving consider me hostile on 7 fays
[2:18:37 AM] Jennie: Is very similar to the "nap" I was told I had broken with crash when I left.....can't break something both sides didn't agree on
[2:21:04 AM] Jennie: Also speculation and assumptions? You outright said in 7 days you were going to be hostile...correct me if I'm wrong...but hostile means you attack. It's not presumptive at that point it's simply when will it haplen

[2:35:19 AM | Edited 2:35:00 AM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: "Also speculation and assumptions? You outright said in 7 days you were going to be hostile...correct me if I'm wrong...but hostile means you attack. It's not presumptive at that point it's simply when will it haplen"

I know what I said. I wasn't talking about people assuming or speculating if/when we'll attack.

[2:50:43 AM] Iztok: Fusion didnt break the grace period because we didn't agree to grace period

Spoiler: Conversation with somebody about the chat regarding breaking the grace period.

[3:02:38 AM] Anon: hey brandon
[3:02:57 AM] Anon: Fusion never had to agree to that grace period
[3:03:05 AM] Anon: it was never a deal
[3:07:45 AM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: -_-
[3:09:07 AM] Anon:
[3:10:10 AM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: lol. I thought I was being generous in letting Fusion prepare. Obviously I was wrong and I should have made things worse by attacking right after leaving. Excuse me for thinking that people might give Stormbringer the 7 day grace period after all that we did for Fusion and for all the time that we put into Fusion and the past versions of it (TSU/TSUPER/Loading).
[3:10:47 AM] Anon: brandon
[3:11:02 AM] Anon: Im only syaing what i said, because you mentioned they broke it
[3:11:43 AM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: Had War and Jennie done the math like I had told Jennie, it wasn't exactly feasible to self-stack in that amount of time due to some of my defense being 3-4 days out. The turn-around time to the outlying villages would have put us well-past the end of the grace period.
[3:11:43 AM] Anon: i think in you shoulda looked at the members near you, and then decuded to give grace or not
[3:11:53 AM] Anon: people like war teemo are hot heads lol
[3:12:12 AM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: lol
[3:12:37 AM] Anon: it the only reason wy attacks started

 

[BGeorge3]

Spoiler: Stormbringer/Fusion Conversation (With War and Cristal)

[10/11/2016 7:56:52 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: War wanted to talk, so this is where I will post my reply to the mail he sent me, with it quoted.
[10/11/2016 7:58:01 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: "I want you to please sit down and talk with me. First off, threatening the tribe that has helped you just as much as you have them is VERY demeaning. Second, the problems you listed for leaving are the same for the ENTIRE tribe. NOT JUST YOU. You gave the problems plenty of times but not once gave anything to fix them. Third, and this is a what if here. If you are thinking about getting us to attack you or you attack us to get Rhythm on your side we will not be stooping to the level of fighting a tribemate. But if you attack we will defend ourselves and it will not just be us you will need to answer to. I will notify Jen if it occurs and you can explain backstabbing your tribe to her (good luck).

So I suggest respectfully that you either reply or find me and Cristal on skype.

Have a good day."

First off, let me clarify that it wasn't a threat, it was a warning. A notification if you prefer. Helped me as much as we've helped them? Hmmm. I highly disagree, but I do wish to know exactly what makes you think this is true. Going back to when Chippy and I were in TSU, when I had first rejoined the Stormbringer account after going solo for the first 5 months of this world, even back then it seemed like tribal direction was a bit of an issue. Back then, Josh had asked if he could add me to the council, because he wanted my input, but I said no because I wanted to see how things went. Over the months, it continuously seemed like we lacked direction. The only couple times I remember TSUPER doing halfway decent was when we were hitting Crash, and the other time was when we were opping around c-note during the sierra war, and those were with Scott leading, and even then, it seemed like he was MIA most of the time since he was so busy with RL and doing things behind the scenes. With every war, whether the name be TSU/TSUPER/Loading, it seems like every time, TSU/TSUPER/Loading would declare, start to lose, and then merge in a better tribe (Sierra and North). During all this, despite
[7:35:08 PM | Edited 7:44:48 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: During all this, Chippy and I stayed along for the ride through all the merges. We did our part, we sat people, we sent support. Early on, we had 100% of our defense out at almost all times. So much so, that we couldn't have a front because we couldn't hold it. The only time that we got hit by North, we only had self-supported stacks, nothing from the tribe. Really, the only decent amount of support we've had/requested from the tribe was in the pre-war stacking, and in the end, it wasn't needed. Whenever we would need a sitter, Muzza was the player that would sit us. Then Bullet sat us the one time I asked for a sitter for a bit. Anyways, we participated in every tribe OP except for the last 2. With Dan's op, Chippy and I simply didn't feel there was much point in sending, and I couldn't be bothered with making a timing list. With Josh's OP, I got the landing date mixed up, and by the time I was going to start sending, I realized that I was 4 days behind and wouldn't make it in time.

I fail to see how exactly my warning that I will be attacking, is demeaning. Last I checked, there were alternatives, such as just leaving without a word and attacking out of the blue. I could have left without giving a reason. I could have done a lot of things, but instead, I gave a wall of text on why I was leaving, and out of respect, I've given Fusion 7 days to figure out what they'll do about Stormbringer leaving. As for everything that I said being the same for everybody else in Fusion? Sure, I guess you could say that. However, the situation obviously wasn't going to change. Leadership kept changing, but activity wasn't. Also, it's not exactly the same as everybody else. Chippy and I have been a part of the core group, the old TSU. The Sierra, Crash, TSUCK, and North players, all came after. We've been dealing with the crap longer than those that came in through the merges.
[10/11/2016 7:58:45 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: Here's the fun part of War's mail where I'll enjoy both replying to and hearing a reply from:
"Third, and this is a what if here. If you are thinking about getting us to attack you or you attack us to get Rhythm on your side we will not be stooping to the level of fighting a tribemate. But if you attack we will defend ourselves and it will not just be us you will need to answer to. I will notify Jen if it occurs and you can explain backstabbing your tribe to her (good luck)."
-War

Honestly? lol. You think us getting attacked by you, or us attacking Fusion is all that it'd take to magically get Rhythm on our side? haha. Why would they instantly trust an account that they've been at war with? Things are not that simple. If your concern is where we are in regards to Rhythm? lol. Well, I guess that's for you to figure out. I will tell you that we left on our own, without knowing if Rhythm would back us. If that's any comfort to you. I made the decision to leave without really being able to sit down and have a conversation with Chippy about it. We'd discussed leaving in the past of course, but we just hadn't ever gone through with it.

We left on our own, I ultimately made the decision to leave because I feel it's in the best interest of the Stormbringer account. For so long, we've followed whatever so-called leadership that has been put in place, and we've continuously done what was asked, waiting for things to change. It got to the point that we were going to leave Loading because we were tired of not knowing anything, tired of the uncertainty, and it got to the point that Cristal had to tell me that Loading and North were merging. Had the merge not happened, we would have left Loading.

At least with being on our own, we don't have to sit around and wait on somebody to write up a tribal OP and get things planned out. We can hit whoever we want, whenever we want, wherever we want. We negotiate our own diplomacy, and we make our own rules. We do not have silly things such as an externals posting ban. lol. We can claim what we want, for however long we want, without the annoying reclaiming restriction.

As for the part about "Stooping to the level of attacking a tribemate". Well, this is probably why there were so many issues with diplomacy with Rhythm, because you didn't pay attention to what was said. You said, "attacking a tribemate". Last I checked, I left. We are no longer tribemates. The only people in my tribe are the people on Stormbringer, and it doesn't make much sense to attack myself. Yeah, War, it's kind of expected that Fusion would try to defend itself if Stormbringer attacks. Surely that's about all they'll do given it takes 2-4 weeks to come up with/plan/organize/execute an OP where 40% of the people actually send, where everything goes splat, and nobody is active enough to follow up with nobles. Got me shaking in my shoes there war.

As for the part about Jen, I have to ask, "Really?" lol. I mean, that's pretty childish. Is that what you did when Jawad left from being your co-player to join an account in Rhythm? Run to Jen and say, (in the childish, mocking tone that one can muster) "Miss Jen! Big Meanie Brandon leaved us! He's threatening to attack us. :O I feel sad and unhappy, and mad that he would do such a thing. I don't care why he did it, but I want him back in the tribe, NOW! Waaaa." lol. I mean, seriously? You're going to go to somebody that probably couldn't care less about w78, with a problem that has nothing to do with her? This matter doesn't involve her, and like I've said, I don't make it a habit of leaving tribes that I've been in long-term. This is a special case. Fusion is just that horrible to be a part of. I've been nothing but loyal to Jen. This matter should not cause her to question my loyalty in any way. I really do not care if you tell her that I left and am now a hostile account. Heck, I'll share this later and give her a link to where I posted it if that'll make you happy.

As for "betraying our tribe"? Again, we left, and we can't exactly betray ourselves. We were not traitors. We did what we could for Fusion. Heck, I even ran for council at one point back in loading, to be a part of the merge council. I ended up just being an advisor and that wasn't exactly listened to. Heck, I even wrote a full OP, but it was never used. If we wanted to betray Fusion, we could have spied, we could have attacked Fusion without warning, but no, we didn't do that. We never spied, and we are giving Fusion a 7 day grace period. It's not like we just left and moved straight into Rhythm's rankings. lol. No, we went solo and made our own tribe and our own rules to do what we want to do, to put the best interests of the Stormbringer account as priority #1. Tell me account how exactly we have betrayed Fusion. What about all of North? At this point, most of them have left Fusion, and they've pulled all their defense from the frontlines. So is it not backstabbing if they wait to hit Fusion, but it is backstabbing if we leave and give Fusion a 7 day grace period with a warning to let them know that we are hostile? lol. As I said in the forums, use this time to prepare however you see fit. I would suggest making an OP, but seeing as one of the two OP planners (Ticko) went back to North, and just yesterday, your Baron and other Op planner (Josh), left Blood Purity, I don't exactly expect much in the way of an OP given Josh was the only one that made any OPs that got Fusion a green day during this war. lol.

You have a good day too, Sunshine.

 

[BGeorge3]

Spoiler: Stormbringer/Fusion Conversation (With War and Cristal) Part 2

[10/11/2016 8:03:12 PM] War/Ciranore Skype w78 Vahtos w80: Brandon you posted a threat on forum then took it further to insult the tribe by posting it to the externals.
[10/11/2016 8:03:53 PM] War/Ciranore Skype w78 Vahtos w80: What exactly are we supposed to think regarding your actions? You tell us please.
[10/11/2016 8:06:23 PM] Cristal: War.. just don't
[10/11/2016 8:07:04 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: What exactly are we supposed to think regarding your actions?At the end of the day, you'll think what you want. You'll make assumptions and guesses. I'm not here to tell you what you should think.
[10/11/2016 8:07:37 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: I'm only here to post that wall of text that says what I have to say.
[10/11/2016 8:07:45 PM] Cristal: Whatever we say isn't going to matter at this point anyway. Brandon has made up his mind.
[10/11/2016 8:07:49 PM] Cristal: you are good at walls of text
[10/11/2016 8:07:52 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: lol.
[10/11/2016 8:09:51 PM] Cristal: and I assume another one is being written. Joy
[10/11/2016 8:10:15 PM] War/Ciranore Skype w78 Vahtos w80: No, he claims to not be part of the tribes issue but fails to tell us how to fix only tells us the known issue. Then proceeds after not speaking for weeks to suddenly threaten the tribe and leave claiming he is in no way shape or form part of the tribe issue as a whole like we all are. Even has Chippy upset over this and that is NOT ok with me.
[10/11/2016 8:10:35 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: Whatever we say isn't going to matter at this point anyway. Brandon has made up his mind.This is true. However, don't think it was just abrupt. You knew I had issues with Loading, and then those issues got worse with Fusion. in addition, I even said in the Skype chat that I was in a chat with Rhythm leadership. I told Josh straight-up, that I was really thinking about leaving. He even told me that if I left, it'd make deleting a lot easier, so when I left, It made his decision to leave, easier. I had also talked to Patrick and about it. lol.
[10/11/2016 8:10:59 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: I think I gave more than a fair enough amount of time for things to change, but they didn't.
[10/11/2016 8:11:23 PM] Cristal: The fact you have pointed out that you are in a chat with Rhythm leadership greatly adds to the idea that you are a traitor, and a spy, frankly
[10/11/2016 8:11:34 PM] Cristal: it also adds to the idea that we expect you to turn bright red at any second
[10/11/2016 8:11:41 PM] Cristal: because of that beautiful friendship you have gained with them
[10/11/2016 8:12:15 PM] Cristal: But frankly, Brandon..
[10/11/2016 8:12:17 PM] Cristal: you keep talking
[10/11/2016 8:12:54 PM] Cristal: and I keep not particularly caring at this point. had you come to me with any kind of idea for a solution, while in the tribe, then that might have made a difference. But you didn't.
[10/11/2016 8:13:13 PM] Cristal: instead you want to drag me into a chat without warning and without asking
[10/11/2016 8:13:20 PM] Cristal: give me walls of text to read
[10/11/2016 8:13:24 PM] Cristal: and complain about me
[10/11/2016 8:13:27 PM] Cristal: well have at it
[10/11/2016 8:13:33 PM] Cristal: but you can do that without me here
[10/11/2016 8:13:34 PM] Cristal: so have fun
[10/11/2016 8:13:41 PM] *** Cristal has left ***
[10/11/2016 8:13:45 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: lol. You would really believe that we would spy? lol. Ask anybody that knows me if I would spy. Spying is one thing I don't do. It's an absurd suggestion that I would do such a thing. I was loyal to Fusion up until the second I left. I did not once, help Rhythm, as a spy would. The spy, is still within Fusion.
[10/11/2016 8:15:39 PM] War/Ciranore Skype w78 Vahtos w80: Fusion needs you and you need it. From sound of it Chippy was not even asked if what you did was what he wanted.
[10/11/2016 8:15:40 PM] War/Ciranore Skype w78 Vahtos w80: Do you realize he is upset? Do you?
[10/11/2016 8:17:53 PM] War/Ciranore Skype w78 Vahtos w80: Bad enough you extended the threat to players who have bled with the storm account a very long time such as nght and let me tell you they too are shocked at your actions and upset.
[10/11/2016 8:22:41 PM] War/Ciranore Skype w78 Vahtos w80: I'm still here talking to you Brandon. I am confronting you but I do not hate you. As you can see Cristal even feels betrayed. So you can ignore that or respond to it.
[10/11/2016 8:26:29 PM] War/Ciranore Skype w78 Vahtos w80: Calming down or something? This is something that needs to be discussed here for tribe and Chippy. So I'm not letting you not reply to my comments above.
[10/11/2016 8:27:12 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: I'll be honest.

[Tuesday, October 11, 2016 8:15 PM] War/Ciranore Skype w78 Vahtos w80:

<<< Fusion needs you and you need it. From sound of it Chippy was not even asked if what you did was what he wanted.
Do you realize he is upset? Do you?I'll be honest and say no. I've just mailed him to apologize if I've upset him in any way. I had talked to him in the past about leaving, and about leaving recently, and he did have his concerns, but a couple months ago when we talked, he was also losing motivation/interest and thought about going solo as well.
[10/11/2016 8:27:30 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: Bad enough you extended the threat to players who have bled with the storm account a very long time such as nght and let me tell you they too are shocked at your actions and upset.I know, a few players have defended me, and some have straight up said that if I attack, they'll simply hit delete.
[10/11/2016 8:28:17 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: I'm still here talking to you Brandon. I am confronting you but I do not hate you. As you can see Cristal even feels betrayed. So you can ignore that or respond to it.Thank you for not hating me. I figured you'd be pissed at my wall of text and what I said. I tried to talk to Cristal, but she's not happy, and she even removed me from Skype.
[10/11/2016 8:28:56 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: Calming down or something? This is something that needs to be discussed here for tribe and Chippy. So I'm not letting you not reply to my comments above.I was off working on my message to Chippy.
[10/11/2016 8:29:56 PM] War/Ciranore Skype w78 Vahtos w80: So what exactly going solo gain but paint a target on your head. Its not like you and Chippy are insanely active.
[10/11/2016 8:31:03 PM] War/Ciranore Skype w78 Vahtos w80: If you want change Brandon you need to help make it happen. Doesn't mean you need to be leadership or make ops.
[10/11/2016 8:31:44 PM] War/Ciranore Skype w78 Vahtos w80: Recruiting players etc do the same thing to maintain and improve the health of any tribe.
[10/11/2016 8:38:32 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: Honestly, the past few weeks have been spent wanting to leave, thinking about leaving, etc. The other day, in RL, things weren't the greatest, and I couldn't go out and do anything, make any "bad decisions" or whatever, there, so I decided to make them in-game. I knew if I didn't leave, we'd keep pushing it off until we were fully dragged down by the sinking ship. We'd be stuck in Fusion while Rhythm noble away, and then eventually North would join in on the clean-up. 2 years of time and effort would be for nothing. We'd be nobled out while people idly stand by, not wanting to sit or support.

Leaving gives us something to do for once. Sure, in the past we could have hit Rhythm and went for more villages, but what was the point when if we were pushing, nobody would have been pushing alongside us, and we'd have kept stretching our troops thinner and thinner, assuming we keep pushing, and having to hold the villages on our own.

I tried helping with Change. Heck, I had my own spy in WSD to help with information. I put one of my old buddies on what is now Cristal's account. I tried helping as an advisor to the council, I wrote an OP, I made suggestions back when the NAP with Rhythm was being negotiated. We participated in the OPs. We tried.

When I log in day after day, and it's the same old crap. OPs taking forever, people getting hit by Rhythm and nobody taking sits, nobody really pushing the frontlines. Josh gave it his all to attack and defend on Blood Purity, and he spent a lot of his time off work, trying to get people to push, and look how little it got us. It got us a barely-green green day. Then North players keep leaving, Puppet keeps coming and going, and North pulled all their support.
[10/11/2016 8:38:43 PM] War/Ciranore Skype w78 Vahtos w80: In other words you try and fight for each other. Could care less about what K, or the name of the tribe.
[10/11/2016 8:40:11 PM | Edited 8:40:14 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: No, we fought for Fusion, but now it's just us. We'll see what the future holds, but for now it's just us.

 

[BGeorge3]

Spoiler: Stormbringer/Fusion Conversation (With War and Cristal) Part 3

[10/11/2016 8:43:03 PM] War/Ciranore Skype w78 Vahtos w80: Yes they left and most likely are lining their pockets but the tribe has a chance to rebound without them and I want you and Chippy to be apart of it. As we bring in players and fill gaps activity will improve. Ops are better than they were. Yes barely a green day but like Jen would say still a green day aim for more tomorrow. You know exactly what I am getting at here Brandon, I know you do.
[10/11/2016 8:44:15 PM] War/Ciranore Skype w78 Vahtos w80: As for defense so what. Most of it needed to be pulled regardless. This gives a chance to redo the lines and show the independence loading once had.
[10/11/2016 8:45:40 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: Loading was still a bad tribe. lol. Independent or not, when it was TSUPER, it was losing against Sierra, and as Loading, it was losing against North.
[10/11/2016 8:47:50 PM] War/Ciranore Skype w78 Vahtos w80: Maybe so but it still acted as a unit. Either way leaving don't solve the side your on. Like you pointed out Rhythm has no reason to recruit. Your still a target with the word Fusion attached a new tribe tag or not.
[10/11/2016 8:54:10 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: Maybe so but it still acted as a unit.Only when Scott was the leader.

[Tuesday, October 11, 2016 8:47 PM] War/Ciranore Skype w78 Vahtos w80:

<<< Either way leaving don't solve the side your on.Maybe, maybe not.
[10/11/2016 8:54:26 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: Your still a target with the word Fusion attached a new tribe tag or not.I am aware.
[10/11/2016 8:59:57 PM] War/Ciranore Skype w78 Vahtos w80: For Chippy and the tribes sake I want to propose an alliance with the stormbringer account to include a shared forum should you need aid from us as well as keep in touch should the account ever return. This is in all fairness to Chippy, the tribe, and to make sure no hostilities between friends occurs. This is a stressful time for all. Even North admits that. But we do not need to fight among each other. We need to remember who the real enemies are. This would leave you free to make other diplomacy freely.
[10/11/2016 9:02:46 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: My initial answer is, No.

However, I shall still talk to Chippy.

"This would leave you free to make other diplomacy freely."
lol. I don't think I'm allowed to have diplomacy with all 3 of the major tribes (North/Fusion/Rhythm). That simply wouldn't work.
[10/11/2016 9:03:38 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: Really, you could look at it like this. People become more active when they feel betrayed. Some become more active when attacked. If I fight Fusion, your activity should go up.
[10/11/2016 9:04:16 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: I know Flo said that if I attacked Rawdeath for example, she'd be more active on w78.
[10/11/2016 9:10:00 PM] War/Ciranore Skype w78 Vahtos w80: But that is not what we want you to do. Yes make them active but then you lose friends and Chippy suffers along side those actions. If quitting is the answer (only you know) others do not need to suffer as you do it especially people as I said before have been long time friends.

Regarding diplomacy. North may be to far to do any real diplomacy. Rhythm as you stated have nothing to gain even Fusion as a whole does not. Fusion wants to maintain its relations and keep its eyes on Rhythm. Thus my offer to storm is more than generous. It guarantees help and access to speak to the tribe as a whole if needed. Take some time to think about it.
[10/11/2016 9:18:38 PM | Edited 9:19:25 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: Oh, and here is a screenshot to show that we do not have support coming in from Rhythm. Jennie didn't believe me when I said that the 7 days would not be enough to self-stack like she suggested I would. Troops were returning from 3-4 days out. To turn them around and stack farther out villages would put us past the 7 days.

http://prnt.sc/csqjz2

"Yes make them active but then you lose friends"

If people wish to not be my friend because of something that I had to do in the best interest of the Stormbringer account, then that's on them. I'm not unfriending anybody.

"and Chippy suffers along side those actions."

Maybe, but I've been the point-man and the guy that has made it clear that it was his decision to leave.

North - May have some benefit to diplomacy with us. Our villages in their territory could be non-hostile, and their villages that we gave them in K53 would be safe. Likewise, we wouldn't have to worry about losing our villages in their territory. North would also not send close-range trains if Fusion were to OP us.

Fusion- Sure, diplomacy would mean that we might not lose the clusters we have that aren't a part of or close to K43, but diplomacy doesn't help us either since even when we were in a tribe together, nothing positive was happening. Fusion has more to lose in that if we are hostile, then Fusion may have a lot more undefended frontline villages that are exposed.

Rhythm - Rhythm could benefit from having diplomacy with Stormbringer. They could much more easily take over K43 with our help, especially since Stormbringer lines up with their current K43 and the account is intertwined along the border of K43/53 and 44/54. In addition, they could use Stormbringer as cannon fodder and unstack their lines on the 43/53 border to use the defense elsewhere.
[10/11/2016 9:20:19 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: I'm not interested in any relations with Rank6 or Anon.
[10/11/2016 9:21:39 PM] War/Ciranore Skype w78 Vahtos w80: Well consider my offer. Should we determine a timeframe for an answer?
[10/11/2016 9:22:47 PM] War/Ciranore Skype w78 Vahtos w80: Tomorrow this time?
[10/11/2016 9:24:27 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: I should be able to get on Skype around this time tomorrow. Yes.
[10/11/2016 9:26:00 PM] War/Ciranore Skype w78 Vahtos w80: Alright, then I will expect an answer this time tomorrow regarding the proposed offer.
[10/11/2016 9:26:02 PM] War/Ciranore Skype w78 Vahtos w80: And/or a counter offer.
[10/12/2016 10:08:46 PM | Edited 10:13:50 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: It's a little past the agreed time. However, here I am. I talked to Chippy today, both in PM, and in a Skype call. We discussed matters, and it has been agreed upon that we will not be going back to Fusion, and likewise, that we decline any form of diplomacy with Fusion. In part, it's because of the reasons I gave yesterday, an in addition, obviously Fusion wouldn't trust us. Cristal outright suggested that I was a spy and called me a traitor, in addition to removing me from her contacts. You know as well as I do, there is not real going back. We made our decision. We made our choice. Now, we will live with that decision, whether the outcome be good or bad.

In addition, just for giggles, I wish to reply to some things.

 

[BGeorge3]

Spoiler: Stormbringer/Fusion Conversation (With War and Cristal) Part 4

skype on 10.10.2016 at 07:45
Between North and this who is gonna stab those who stay first? Pathetic.

As I've said before. Is it preferable for us to leave, wait a long time, and then attack, as you probably suspect North will do, or do you prefer for us to leave, and give notice that we will be hostile? At least we were up front and honest, and gave a grace period, knowing very well that an OP could be planned in that time.

crampfenburg on 10.10.2016 at 09:51

Can only speak as you find,and Storm has been sitting my account for the last 2 weeks,so if he was going to stab us he could have wrecked mine easy enough

He speaks the truth. We could have done whatever we wanted with the account. Honestly though? Chippy was the one taking care of that sit. I didn't log into it at all if I recall correctly.


CuddlyTeemo on 10.10.2016 at 09:59

Get ready to remove storm before rhythm does

We will loose a lot of ground in 43..

lol. Silly little Teemo.

fabster1 on 10.10.2016 at 11:42

This is not what we need at this time.is it his intention to attack us when the grace period is over?
Why would he do that?....strange behaviour I think.

lol. Again with the assumptions? Somebody leaves and does something out of the best interest of their account, and all of a sudden, they're suspicious. Woohoo.

CuddlyTeemo on 10.10.2016 at 13:12

now he wants the destruction of our trbe, so i suggest breaking the grace period and nobling him ASAP, before the enemy gets his villas

Yeah...I love how Teemo thinks he knows what we want. It's not exactly honorable to break a grace period that I said I'd honor. Of course, people may say that's hypocritical because what would somebody that leaves their tribe and then warns that they'll attack, know about honor? It could be argued or rationalized one way or the other. Teemo is really confident that we're going to lose our villages to Rhythm. lol. What, he thinks we're just going to up and walk away as soon as we get incoming?

Instinctive Survival on 10.10.2016 at 14:35

nghtrdr wrote:
"Increasingly I'm thinking we should just STACHE the core(W6 piece of history, for any newer folk)."

The thought has crossed my mind nght. It truly has..

This is a brilliant idea! Here's the thing, you guys think that Stormbringer going rogue will only help Rhythm in the end? Well, news flash, world dominance is based on player-owned villages. If most/all of Fusion deletes, it'd thrust the world straight into end-game. You wouldn't be hurting anybody, you'd only be helping Rhythm. haha. Rhythm wouldn't have to do a single thing about those barbs. They could sit idly and wait for the world to end, knowing that they crushed Fusion to the point that they all deleted.


Say what you guys will. Call us traitors, accuse us of beinig spies even though we did a lot to help Fusion and were one of the oldest core members. We'd rather go out on our own terms than wait around on a sinking ship until our heads are under the water and we can't breathe. We gave Fusion a chance, but now, we've made our decision, and to us, leaving makes sense logically given what we know. Know that we still consider the various players in Fusion to be our friends. This decision is not meant to be personal towards any single player in Fusion. Good luck to you all, see you on the battlefield.

 

[BGeorge3]

Spoiler: Private Conversation regarding matters, between Chippy and Brandon *Some parts edited out*

[10/9/2016 8:13:37 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: Hey bud, how are you feeling?
[10/9/2016 8:16:13 PM | Edited 8:16:56 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: Also, re-visiting the situation regarding Fusion. Things seem to keep going downhill.

-Pat is gone from Pnf, and Greenghost is still sending 30+ second trains.
-North are pulling all their troops from the frontlines, including our frontline villages.
-Gavin from KB has quit.
-On the day of the OP, we were still in the red, and the next day we were barely green.
-The day after the OP was our first green day in 2 or so months according to Cristal...

I also know that if we were to leave, Josh on Blood Purity might would set to delete.

lol. How mad would you be at me if I had us just up and leave the tribe? :x
[10/9/2016 8:17:50 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: I'd rather go out in a blaze of glory than with a sinking ship that continues to fall apart.
[10/10/2016 12:10:10 AM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: So. I was in the mood to make bad decisions tonight, and made an executive decision for us in regards to leaving Fusion.
[10/10/2016 12:10:28 AM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: I've pulled all our support to reorganize. I also posted a wall of text in the forums before leaving.
[10/10/2016 12:11:17 AM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: I ask that you please not undo what I've done. I feel this is in the best interest of our account, even if we lose some villages.
[10/11/2016 12:12:27 PM] Gas Head- stormbringer account (nickname-chippy) (mark): Please speak with me when you get a chance also war wants a word
[10/11/2016 12:16:30 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: It'll have to be later. Maybe in about 7 hours.
[10/11/2016 12:44:39 PM] Gas Head- stormbringer account (nickname-chippy) (mark): ok will tell him if you want me too
[10/11/2016 8:25:02 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: "Fusion needs you and you need it. From sound of it Chippy was not even asked if what you did was what he wanted.
Do you realize he is upset? Do you?"
Yeah....I'm sorry that I didn't ask what exactly you wanted. I'm sorry if you're upset by my actions. I know, it's hard to go along with the decision that I made because we may not be the most active. However, I wasn't spending as much time on w78 because there simply wasn't much to do. --------------------- Are you mad at me?
[10/11/2016 11:10:18 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: So, where we are now is that Cristal is not happy:


[8:16:30 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: "and complain about me"

I didn't complain about you.

As for adding you to the chat. I only did so because War had suggested that I should talk to you and/or him on Skype. Since you are the duchess, it's only fair that I added you to the chat as well to see what I had to say.

I'm sorry if you take it personally. It's not meant to be like that. I'm sorry that you also felt the need to remove me. :/
[8:17:59 PM] Cristal: It wasn't personal until you took it upon yourself to list a wall of text airing your complaints to the world. It wasn't personal until you basically said you plan to attack in 7 days. When you were just going to leave, it wasn't personal. the way you left made it personal
[8:18:33 PM] Cristal: and you were removed so you don't add me back to any random rooms without permission. As you mentioned, I have a tribe to run. You aren't in it. If you want to talk to me, approach it correctly in the future.

She removed me from Skype. As you could see, War was trying to convince me to come back. -------- I really just do not want to go back to Fusion. When I left, I made it final. It appears that I've burned a bridge with Cristal, Jennie isn't happy. Both Jennie and War said you were upset or that it seemed like you had no real say in the matter essentially.
[10/11/2016 11:12:22 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: However, I that this is in the best interest of our account. I know, I could be wrong, and we could lose everything we've worked on for 2 years. However, nothing was changing in Fusion. People kept leaving, people were so inactive, and we kept waiting forever between OPs.

[10/11/2016 11:13:35 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer:
[10/10/2016 4:28:35 AM] Anon: Wow you didn't mince your words lol
[10/10/2016 4:29:23 AM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: lol. What do you mean?
[10/10/2016 4:29:41 AM] Anon: On your tribe page thingo
[10/10/2016 4:29:58 AM] Anon: I just said I was leaving to be with my friends lol
[10/10/2016 4:30:07 AM] Anon: You tore them to bits
[10/10/2016 4:30:15 AM] Anon:
[10/10/2016 4:30:18 AM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: lol.
[10/10/2016 4:30:25 AM] Anon: Wars being a prick
[10/10/2016 4:30:39 AM] Anon: I would very much so like a valid reason before pull. I do not see the point. Unless you all want more enemies or something which is stupid. Leaving us to dry will not be forgotten should we survive it.
[10/10/2016 4:31:32 AM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: See. I didn't have a good day yesterday, and I was just in a very pissed off mood, and since the mall was closed, there weren't any movies showing at the time I was looking, the bowling alley was closed, and any other worthwhile store was closed, I said, "I'm going to make bad decisions in TW". lol.
[10/10/2016 4:31:56 AM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: "I would very much so like a valid reason before pull."
I pulled all my support and sent everybody's stacks back.
...
[10/10/2016 4:35:05 AM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: It'll be interesting to see how Fusion reacts. I made if very clear that I intend to attack.
[10/10/2016 4:35:16 AM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: Will they OP me before the 7 days is up is the question.
[10/10/2016 4:35:32 AM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: But we both know they can't organize an OP in 7 days.
[10/10/2016 4:35:33 AM] Anon: Yeah I doubt it.
[10/10/2016 4:36:20 AM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: lol. When they celebrated that green day the other day. I was like, "......it was barely a green day". Know what the response was? "It's still a green day". :/
[10/10/2016 4:36:39 AM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: Then Cristal continued and said that it was the first in like 2 months.
...
[10/10/2016 4:43:17 AM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: But yeah, in response to what I'd said to Cristal in PM. This had been her reply:
[10/10/2016 4:43:19 AM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: "fair enough.
Brandon, I won't beg you to stay. it's up to you. I had hoped with the new way of rolling out ops, to make them more local, that it would help. there is nothing I can say that is just going to make things better. There's not. so.. do what you feel like you need to do."
[10/10/2016 4:44:07 AM] Anon: She's wasting her time I think
[10/10/2016 4:44:11 AM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: I've been wanting to leave since before the Merge. Had Loading and North not merged, I would have left Loading.
[10/10/2016 4:44:39 AM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: The ONLY reason I didn't leave is because Cristal had to tell me that we were merging.
[10/10/2016 4:44:40 AM] Anon: We would never had merged if we knew how hopeless they were
[10/10/2016 4:44:54 AM] Anon: Biggest mistake we made
[10/10/2016 4:44:54 AM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: I think my disease statement was on point.
[10/10/2016 4:45:03 AM] Anon: Yeah infectious
...



[10/11/2016 11:16:23 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: ^That was my conversation with -Anon- the other day. Eventually, North will likely turn on Fusion. Staying in Fusion is even more suicidal than us leaving and fighting them and taking our chances -------
[10/12/2016 12:12:24 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: (bandit)
[10/12/2016 12:17:44 PM] Gas Head- stormbringer: ok mate
[10/12/2016 12:21:26 PM] Gas Head- stormbringer: I,m somewhat disappointed with the whole situation tbhthis is all I said to war never mentioned upset
[10/12/2016 12:36:12 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: But can you see the logic in all the arguments that I've made? I mean, yes, it sucks to have to do this, but if we do wish to win, we have to because at this point, there's no reason to stay in Fusion aside from playing with inactive friends. At this point, Cristal feel it's personal and has removed me from her contacts.
[10/12/2016 12:36:51 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: If we for some reason, went back, you know she would probably not trust me like she did.
[10/12/2016 12:37:41 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: However, I really just don't want to go back. So many problems, no solutions, no direction.
[10/12/2016 12:39:27 PM] Gas Head- stormbringer: we are not going back we have made the move they would not trust us after this .
[10/12/2016 12:48:26 PM | Edited 12:48:26 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: O.k. But I am sorry if you feel like you didn't really have a choice in the matter. I know I didn't wait but a few hours the night that I left when I asked if you'd be mad if I left. You should know that I don't ever leave tribes that I'm in long-term, and that I think things through for a long period of time before making decisions like this.
......

 

[BGeorge3]

Spoiler: Private Conversation regarding matters, between Chippy and Brandon *Some parts edited out* - Part 2

[10/13/2016 3:45:35 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: Wow, I can't believe that Pam or whichever one it was on that mailed from mmarouff or however you spell it, would think that I'd impersonate you...
[10/13/2016 4:03:21 PM] Gas Head- stormbringer: there is more wait
[10/13/2016 4:05:22 PM] Gas Head- stormbringer:
[19:22:23] chippy Stormbringer 2012: Hi Pam the truth is here we are not receiving any support from any other tribe you have my word on this . I,m sorry that we have left Fusion This was not any of my doing here . I knew Brandon was unhappy and that he had discussed briefly about us leaving but I had not told him that I was prepared to leave . He decided on his own back to leave the tribe when he did as as he says was having a bad day in RL and decided that he was going to make one more decision on this day and that was to leave the tribe . I woke up and thought what the hell is going on ,then I realised that we were no longer in fusion . My first reaction was to say wtf why ?.I did not speak with Brandon for 2 days I think I,m right in this . yes I was not happy with what had gone on before my eyes and yes I was not happy to think that we may end up fighting our tribe mates from fusion . I actually thought about walking away from 78 as any prospect of attacking Fusion members left me with a bad taste in my mouth .Brandon started up a skype chat with war and Cristal in order to discuss things as war had asked me to get Brandon to speak with him on skype . Things didn't go well you can correct me if I, am wrong but Cristal made comments about Brandon being a traitor /spy as he had been in talks with Titu . Brandon is many things yet he is not a spy . Cristal said what she wanted to say then left the conversation . she was done with talking I guess . Brandon put across his reasons which you have read I guess and that's it . in fairness war was being diplomatic trying to broker some common ground on how the situation could be resolved but as yet nothing . I swear on my sons life we have no support from any tribe ,Especially Rhythm . all our defence was returned or recalled .I stopped writing as my laptop went dead sorry bloody battery . Many people are fed up with the events within Fusion my friend PNF- Patrick had left ken from Muzza too Drew had gone too . I understand he is back again too . Flo is fed up along with many others Josh has quit from Purity too. players have contacted us saying they will delete if we attack them so its a bloody mess tbh .My problem is here if I return to Fusion 1: would they trust me 2: would they have Brandon Back ? 3: Not sure if he would return now after being accused of being a spy Traitor 4 : do I need a frontline account in fusion on my own --no I don't 5 :the spy in Fusion is still there it is not us I,m not religious but I would swear on the bible to prove my honesty . 6: Fusion are worried Rhythm will walk into k 43 k 44 ? I would rather give my villages to fusion than rhythm that I can say from the bottom of my heart . 7: I hope I have not gone on but this is how I see things Fusion cannot run a decent op on Rhythm yes they may be able to take us out I,m have no doubt in that but on the bigger scale they cannot work as a tribe together . Morale is rock bottom in my opinion in Fusion and too many are in it for there own gain in saying that I have not one bad word to say about any of you in Fusion you are all generally good kind people but something isn't right there . Finally where is it going to end with us being taken out to protect Fusion territory maybe . Pam I know I have not know you long but you are a genuine lady from Nicco and as I said before I have the upmost respect of you . I wish you well in real life and in game yet I can see the writing on the wall here with fusion falling apart .Brandon also feels that he has made the best decision for our account not tribe and only time will tell here . I have know Brandon too many years to not give him the benefit of his actions . if it proves to be the wrong decision then we will move on remember its only a game yet I would like it known that should we be attacked by Fusion I will then make my decision on weather to fight or walk away with dignity knowing that I can not be accused of backstabbing my former tribe mates . I will not be the one to make that choice hopefully . sometimes its easier to turn and walk than stay and fight ,you can take my villages but not my dignity . I hope this makes sense . xx
[19:30:32] Pam/mmaarouf: Perfect sense to me and now I know I judged you correctly. Brandon has you in a world of shit. No matter how long you have known him, as a co-player I would never make a decision to leave the tribe BEFORE discussing this with Mo who actually owns the account. There are no two ways to cut it Chip. Brandon did you wrong and put your account in jeopardy. Many people in Fusion would like to have you back. I would take you as a co if I still was on nicco because I trust you. I know it is your name on the account so you probably would not want to just hit delete? It has already been mentioned that we could get you out of that account where we are free to attack Brandon who is the one who is really responsible for all of this. He offended many people in the chat rooms.
[19:36:57] chippy Stormbringer 2012: "Yes he was not diplomatic at all which obviously annoyed people I,m sure . Yes I am the account holder and yes I could change the password but I,m front line with no defence and if rhythm attacked they would have a field day I,m sure . if I came backi would be alone because I,m sure Brandon would not be welcome following his text on our profile . I,m just the pig in the middle as they say .
[19:38:42] Pam/mmaarouf: what if I could talk Mo into letting me co-play with you or could find you a good co-player? Would you then consider it? You DO have a choice. To stand by Brandon is honerable but not deserved.
[19:42:13] Pam/mmaarouf: I just read another message from Cristal that says you WILL attack us. Are you planning to totally go along with Brandon? I don't want to attack you but if my tribe is asking us to attack just to get some of those villages before Rhythm does, would you hold it against me and some other supporters of yours if we felt we had to comply with attacks?
[19:43:33] Pam/mmaarouf: why would you refuse a NAP with us?
[19:49:32] chippy Stormbringer 2012: Pam its a little like a Government running a country you don't always see eye to eye but you stand on the right side of the line . Sometimes friend do things that you are not happy with yet you don't end your friendship you resolve it and move forward . Pam I will not hold it against you should you attack us .our friendship will not go away if you have to follow instructions then you have to make the choice on what you do . At the end of the day people can judge me how they wish I know my only wrongdoing is being on an account which has jumped ship . And lets face it you should be able to take us down with ease as we are just one . all I will say is I wish fusion members had more desire to take out rhythm as they will us .xx Brandon has refused a nap maybe ...
[10/13/2016 4:32:47 PM] Gas Head- stormbringer: I have been called many things but Dummy is a new one I get that in an ideal world fusion would not want to waste 800 + nobles attacking us when they could be used against Rhythm but they have more bravery attacking a single player than a tribe sounds a little sad to me but hey ho that's life .This game this world will not have any bearing on my life once finished . It will not go down as a memorable world in my opinion .
[10/13/2016 5:59:48 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: but I had not told him that I was prepared to leave . He decided on his own back to leave the tribeWell, I knew that you had also lost morale, and back in August you had said, "Maybe we should go solo", like you were somewhat in agreement. Of course that was August.

 

[BGeorge3]

Spoiler: Private Conversation regarding matters, between Chippy and Brandon *Some parts edited out* - Part 3

[Thursday, October 13, 2016 4:05 PM] Gas Head- stormbringer:

<<< "1: would they trust me 2: would they have Brandon Back ? 3: Not sure if he would return now after being accused of being a spy Traitor 4 : do I need a frontline account in fusion on my own --no I don't 5 :the spy in Fusion is still there it is not us I,m not religious but I would swear on the bible to prove my honesty . 6: Fusion are worried Rhythm will walk into k 43 k 44 ? I would rather give my villages to fusion than rhythm that I can say from the bottom of my heart . 7: I hope I have not gone on but this is how I see things Fusion cannot run a decent op on Rhythm yes they may be able to take us out I,m have no doubt in that but on the bigger scale they cannot work as a tribe together."

1.) They would trust you, but not me. 2.) I feel sure that a number of people, and Cristal, wouldn't hold this against me. 3.) I have no desire to go back to Fusion. The only way I shall continue to play this world is if I'm not in Fusion. I'd hate to leave Stormbringer, but I won't go back. However, likewise, I won't leave now, not when I was the one that made the executive decision to leave. 4.) Alone, neither of us could deal with or have the time to handle a frontline account, with what time we do have. Only together, do we have a chance. 5.) Yes, the spy is still in fusion, and Cristal doesn't know who it is. 6.) Personally? I wouldn't really care which side gets our villages. Fusion loves internals, but Rhythm would actually use the villages. 7.) Fusion cannot do a decent OP. Josh was the only person that was ever able to run a single decent op against Rhythm, and he's gone now. So tell me, who is going to lead, draw up, and organize the OPs now?
[10/13/2016 6:05:05 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: "I have know Brandon too many years to not give him the benefit of his actions . if it proves to be the wrong decision then we will move on"

Thanks Chippy. However, you and I both know that if this proves to be the wrong decision, it's on me, regardless of the fact that you and I are a team.

[Thursday, October 13, 2016 4:05 PM] Gas Head- stormbringer account (nickname-chippy) (mark):

<<< "I would like it known that should we be attacked by Fusion I will then make my decision on weather to fight or walk away with dignity knowing that I can not be accused of backstabbing my former tribe mates . I will not be the one to make that choice hopefully . sometimes its easier to turn and walk than stay and fight ,you can take my villages but not my dignity . I hope this makes sense . xx"

I know, it's harsh, and it's a hard decision to have to make. However, I can be the bad guy here for once. I have no problem attacking the inactive players of Fusion. Players like Cyclopsian and Fabster that don't really seem to do anything. I've had to fight plenty of friends and rim them just the same. I don't call this backstabbing, but I'm sure on some level it is. We, I, left, and we chose our own path. We now make our own rules, choose our own strategic friends, we set our own diplomacies, and we declare our own wars. I won't walk just because I have to fight friends. If at the end of the day, they want to hold it against me for doing what's in the best interest of our account, then let them.
[10/13/2016 6:07:44 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: "Brandon has you in a world of ---. No matter how long you have known him, as a co-player I would never make a decision to leave the tribe BEFORE discussing this with Mo who actually owns the account. There are no two ways to cut it Chip. Brandon did you wrong and put your account in jeopardy.But the question is, "do I?" I mean, after all, weren't we in a world of crap before we left? After all, wasn't that what Fusion was? It's a horrible tribe. People keep saying that I never talked to you about it. We had talked about wanting to leave a number of times. They can say I did you wrong if they want, but what if in the end, we're the ones that win the world while they're nowhere to be found? They can't say I did you wrong yet because we don't know the ultimate outcome of the decision we've made to stay solo.
[10/13/2016 6:08:51 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: "Brandon who is the one who is really responsible for all of this. He offended many people in the chat rooms."

lol. I do want to know, how exactly did I offend people in the chat room? I did not attack a single individual player. If people want to feel insulted by my opinion of Fusion or any past version of it, then let them be offended.
[10/13/2016 6:10:14 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: "Yes he was not diplomatic at all which obviously annoyed people I,m sure ."

I think that giving Cristal and the other leaderships since before the merge even happened, is fairly diplomatic. We gave the various leaderships a ton of time to fix things. I talked to various people about my concerns and issues, including Cristal and Josh. I even had that Skype conversation with War.
[10/13/2016 6:14:25 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: "or could find you a good co-player? Would you then consider it? You DO have a choice. To stand by Brandon is honerable but not deserved."

lol. So because I had us leave the tribe and made a single decision (to leave) without you 100% on board, it makes me not a good co-player? Sounds logical..... Why is standing by me not deserved? Honestly, Chippy. I know that no matter how much I talked about leaving, I know it would have been hard to get you fully on board to leave and fight fusion. So me doing it and fully taking the blame, was the only way to go about it really. Force the decision, and hope you will stand beside me in the decision.
[10/13/2016 6:15:42 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: [19:43:33] Pam/mmaarouf: "why would you refuse a NAP with us?"

It wasn't an NAP, it was an alliance that war asked for. You can see my response for yourself in the chat with War. You and I had discussed matters and had agreed that we wouldn't go back because obviously they wouldn't trust us. Likewise, what's the point in diplomacy? They wouldn't trust us then either.
[10/13/2016 6:16:19 PM] Brandon George/Stormbringer: ll I will say is I wish fusion members had more desire to take out rhythm as they will us Exactly. They'll go for us, but won't do a single thing against Rhythm, which is pathetic.

 

[Angel of Fire]

Wow you declared on a tribe you abandoned and a tribe of rim players, congratulations on being retarded.

 

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Haha StormGate 2016 I laughed more then i should've at that last comment