Closing statement
Scion
Dokdo
WWTLF
TS
I can promise that if these four tribes worked together instead of having fun going against each other would have easily wiped you guys off the face of the world.
Well Relentless, I’d say that would be the case in most worlds. If the other top tribes all ganged up on the one at the very top, it’s likely they would make quick work of them. That’s one of the reasons diplomacy and well-timed NAPs are so valuable in the first place.
“90% of tribal wars is diplomacy and the manipulation of others to fit your needs” JPohlman
That sums tribal wars up pretty nicely, don’t you think?
Yes, there are those who claim to have no diplomacy whatsoever, however, most of those tribes will “coincidently” find a way to attack the same target as their friends and/or “surprisingly” merge with them later on
Inactivity and defeat usually go hand in hand. Hardly in the world of tribal wars -- or any game for that matter, do you ever see a player admit to being defeated without any intangibles being attached to it. “My sitter was on vacation”, “I went inactive right before they nobled me”, “I was outnumbered” or “my roommates cousin was messing with the power outlet, and turned the power off right before the attacks hit” or as we can see here with mr Ender “you’re using cheat codes!”.
Sure, we slipped under the radar, but I think that was part of the whole plan -- considering the fact that, most of us are playing under alias.
We don’t have the luxury of having 20-30 elite legends on call -- that everyone’s heard of -- here on tw.net, but we make up for this in team work and coordination.
Premades + Families= fail. Doing so makes you a pointwhore. You won, woopie. If I ever wanted to win badly enough to do so at all costs, I could have had a premade tribe of, idk, 50 elite accounts on this world. You wouldn't have been able to do anything.
But guess what? Some of us like FUN. Which is why I left TW. Familywhores like yourself take all the fun out of tw.
Wouldn’t that be an oxymoron? Point whores and turtles? First we are mass recruiters. Now we are pre-made cheaters? I gotta tell you Ender, many of you have totally contradicted yourself, and seem to now just be randomly spewing insults and trying to distort the accomplishments of others, and that’s just foul.
I don’t doubt that you could put together a pre-made of 50 players and win the round. That’s why pre-mades are so dangerous in the first place. We haven’t won anything yet, but certainly are in a good position to. Many have got off to a fast start in HP and either had many of their members go inactive or quit. It’s not how you start, it’s how you finish.
Pointwhores? Let’s take a look at the facts.
WAAO http://www.twstats.com/enc1/index.php?page=tribe&id=22
Conquers:293 (+290-3) (WWTLF being the only one who took a village from us, the rest were double claims.
OD Rank:1. (1,471,929 score)
OD Attack Rank:1. (1,139,683 score)
OD Defense Rank:1. (323,310 score)
Here‘s the list of tribes we fought against and/or eliminated: Hoch, TS, WWTLF, Scion, DOKDO, 24/24, DOTA, BT …and many other smaller tribes.
Do I really need to post the list of players we’ve taken out?
http://www.twstats.com/enc1/index.php?page=tribe&id=22. Take a look, you might see some familiar names in there.
Spin it any way you want. It is what it is.
Scion was not premade. The reason we had some accounts with that many players is due to inactivity of those individual players.
I view TS and Scion in the same light. Because most of you run in the same circles and have been in tribes together in the past. I figured you guys would be allies and or eventually merge; I don’t know about the alliance part (aside from attacking 24/24 in a joint effort) but you guys did merge with them and take their refugees in the minute it looked like the wheels were going to fall off;
for someone who thinks pre-mades are a form of cheating, you sure have a funny way of showing it.
So, the reason you win is you stoop to tactics that we disdain as cheating. I don't see that as a victory, more of a concession to the fact that you are unable to win with skill... but then again, you're just going to respond with "It's not technically against the rules, so there" so I wonder why I even bother continuing this discussion.
I’m really disappointed that you’re stooping to that level, here I was preparing myself for a solid P&P debate, but it doesn’t look like I’m going to get it.
But I'll play along...
Couldn’t the same argument be made about co-playing? It’s not technically against the rules, but many have disdain for it, …and it’s certainly an avenue people could explore to get a competitive advantage and/or hi jack passwords; it’s been banned on other servers for a reason, has it not?
I did a little research, and I asked a moderator and a game staff member -- that had no affiliation to this world -- what the general consensus on co-playing is. They told me that co-playing is fine, but it would be frowned upon if more than three people were on one account.
You know what I think? I think it’s going to be a potential problem in the future, because the wrong people are going to start doing this. We lucked out here in HP, that these big accounts were in the hands of trustworthy people.
Serious question. Where’s the limit in co-playing? There is none. Do we stop at 3, 6, 10, heck maybe 20 people on one account? We can make the tribe limit 10-15 in the next round, but people are still going to have the same amount of members, just co playing in individual accounts.
Certainly you see the advantages early on? -- unless we just assume that everyone who co-plays is inactive, in doing so we'd be a very dense bunch. Wouldn't we?
Come on Ender, you are ready to quit, and I haven't even gotten warmed up yet.