DeletedUser5351
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I'm trying to avoid talkin gabout too much history unless it provides evidence to a statement I am making. The fact that FF is comprised off AOD, LLS and LLN doesn't really prove any point.
DeletedUser8529
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Congrats on #100 post Kamarah.
Holding out for decent post numbers now lol
Holding out for decent post numbers now lol
DeletedUser5351
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lol, thanks. I think about half of the posts are mine though. 
kyoki
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Its been a good read so far, im really waiting for the rest.
yay 300th post
yay 300th post
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DeletedUser
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aweeesome. thanx a bunch kamarah !!!
DeletedUser
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Can't wait dude.
DeletedUser7737
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I wanna read more about us!
DeletedUser
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Kamarah ,I think much of what you have written has been an excellent synopsis of what is going on in varying different tribes, and judging by my own tribes report you seem to have a far greater knowledge of what you have spoken that I would have given you credit for. (thats not a slight btw, we just didnt have much contact prior to this war and so didnt think you would know about us that well).
That said however I think that your write-up on DV have been quite significantly discoloured by your at times very fractious relationship with them, rather than being a balanced account which most of the others have been. That one has kind of taken the shine of what I previously thought was an excellent thread.:icon_confused:
Anyways, Im interested to hear what you view of OTB is now that you are not shackled by diplomatic obligation...
keep up the (by in large) excellent work
That said however I think that your write-up on DV have been quite significantly discoloured by your at times very fractious relationship with them, rather than being a balanced account which most of the others have been. That one has kind of taken the shine of what I previously thought was an excellent thread.:icon_confused:
Anyways, Im interested to hear what you view of OTB is now that you are not shackled by diplomatic obligation...
keep up the (by in large) excellent work
dirtypunk77
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i cant wait to see what you think about PDM
DeletedUser
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i personly think that what kamarah had to say about D.V was very truth ful. in LoR they were very hard to deal with.
on a diffrent note kamarah the only bad thing about this thread is i have to wait for you to write about the next tribe!
on a diffrent note kamarah the only bad thing about this thread is i have to wait for you to write about the next tribe!
DeletedUser5351
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Honestly, I acknowledge that as true.. It was a tough one for me, and with the exception of my limited contact with bigmannie my experiences with D.V have been entirely negative. I feel like what I've written is not untrue, but I cannot deny that it is colored with my personal bias. I'm writing out of my experience and observations, and I think I did emphasize the negative more than would be called for from an objective standpoint, but it is not without evidence. I think bigmannie can probably turn D.V around and make it in to a reputable tribe in my eyes, but he stepped up after I've stepped down and I have no first hand experience with him. I do not have the advantage of ever dealing with D.V from a positive standpoint, and I know there has to be good in D.V, or they wouldn't have such close friends in the CA, but as I said, I have not been able to see much of that side (though I think I'm the only OT sumner ever half-way got along with. lol)
I will consider revising my D.V analysis, or if anybody wants to contribute one of their own, I will replace mine with it (if deemed worthy).
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i cant wait to see what you think about PDM
We've had several discussions about that in the past I think. You'll find it a little bit more agreeable and objective than the D.V one.
Is big_ben still the head leader of PDM? or did he step down? I noticed lazy made the peace post and was wondering if he finally took over.
DeletedUser5351
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Kamarah ,I think much of what you have written has been an excellent synopsis of what is going on in varying different tribes, and judging by my own tribes report you seem to have a far greater knowledge of what you have spoken that I would have given you credit for. (thats not a slight btw, we just didnt have much contact prior to this war and so didnt think you would know about us that well).
Anyways, Im interested to hear what you view of OTB is now that you are not shackled by diplomatic obligation...
keep up the (by in large) excellent work
and thank you for that. As odd as this may sound, your opinion means a lot to me in regards to this. I pride myself a little in my powers of observation, but I lack in the 'doing stuff with it' department.
DeletedUser5351
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D.V revised. It should have less exaggeration and be a good deal more objective.
dirtypunk77
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ben is still our main tribal leader
but
PDM has a new leadership structure that i think works vary well it became more democratic and more tribal intergrated then just one leader.
DeletedUser
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I read
I read your part with d*... that mostly interrested me.Cause true Tia had been target by them. If what you say is true, this is can compare to genocide. I know that is just a game but even if we are all noble and sent to the rim, We will continue being under tia, cause w3 registration are not close, not yet. So, I guess that d*d wont be able to take all of tia.
Thats all I had to say
c ya !
I read your part with d*... that mostly interrested me.Cause true Tia had been target by them. If what you say is true, this is can compare to genocide. I know that is just a game but even if we are all noble and sent to the rim, We will continue being under tia, cause w3 registration are not close, not yet. So, I guess that d*d wont be able to take all of tia.
Thats all I had to say
c ya !
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.......Ok...I've regained control.
Let me first point out, that I was one of the original Dukes of D.V, along with Ender_wiggin and Malreaux. It was under mine and their leadership that it became a top tribe and it was only until after I quit for the first time that the members started to become inactive. When I later restarted, at the behest of several people, the damage was already done. A large percentage of the skillful and loyal members had either gone completely inactive or they had just handed their accounts over to be eaten. So, after that myself and Ender pondered a lot over how to increase recruitment, which we did by various means but never finding many of value, of course there were exceptions to this, but not many. Anyway, to cut the story short; the new members were not the solid backbone that the original D.V was, they were not battle hardened and they were not the members that got us through our wars before and to speak honestly, not many were D.V. So, yes, as such the tribe was unstable but not because it was under me but because it was only a shadow of a once great tribe that had started it's collapse long ago and finally got taken down in war as it had risen.
Yes, I'm sad to see D.V fall so hard, but I'm glad it went down the way it began, by fighting.
Now...... Onto Bigmannie and his.... "power". That by far is the biggest load of crap I've read in quite a while. :lol: Mannie is wholly unsuited to lead and has told me on several occasions so, not that he would admit it here.
Anyway, a large part of the instability was down to the internal bickering between himself and Ender, which resulted in an unpleasant atmosphere over the aristocracy. Now, I won't say he's a terrible player because he kicks arse.. But a leader? Certainly not. Ender made one of his very few mistakes when he promoted him in my absence.Heh, anyway, there's a brief history of D.V for you. Feel free to ask more, since the tribe has pretty much fallen now, I feel no need to be secretive over my past ways and the ways of the tribe when it was a power, in which case, all of it will be truth and not spin, as in Kamarah's case. :lol:
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Here's a brief history of Xig, by someone who saw most of it:
Xig started with a lot of good members and an active leadership. However there was little quality control on recruitment policy so it quickly spawned another 7 branches or so. A lot of the members became frustrated with this lack of direction and left to join other tribes, including some of the leadership. Combined with this, Xig in World 2 had recently risen to power and were involved in major conflicts, so many members lost interest in this world and concentrated on World 2.
A war was started with [DR] over one of their player's aggressive expansion policies. The lack of interest in the World by the Xig leadership, and the inexperience of those that replaced them meant that the war was very poorly planned. Xig expected to be fighting only the 40 or so DR members, but instead found themselves against a coalition of most of the top tribes at the time including FTR and Masons (and possibly HTW?).
The lack of quality of many Xig members became quickly apparent and the war became more of a slaughter with only pockets of Xig resistance holding out for any extended period. One of the better Xig factions immediatly broke off and became OAK, which led to some bitterness. Eventually only one cluster of Xig remained, that of Xig2's cluster on K44. The leadership of that tribe was handed over to Glassfamily (ie. me) and with Xig's blessing he worked on a policy of disaffiliation from Xig, and also began to seek peace with their enemies.
The tribe became renamed DAWN for a period, and ceasefires were eventually attained. It became obvious that DAWN could not survive on its own in an area at that time dominated by the CA, so a merger was sought after. Many mergers were offered and considered at this time including HOT, Smoker and the big Knights brotherhood that existed at the time, before eventually DAWN merged into D*D, effectively ending the last remnant of Xig as a tribe.
Xig started with a lot of good members and an active leadership. However there was little quality control on recruitment policy so it quickly spawned another 7 branches or so. A lot of the members became frustrated with this lack of direction and left to join other tribes, including some of the leadership. Combined with this, Xig in World 2 had recently risen to power and were involved in major conflicts, so many members lost interest in this world and concentrated on World 2.
A war was started with [DR] over one of their player's aggressive expansion policies. The lack of interest in the World by the Xig leadership, and the inexperience of those that replaced them meant that the war was very poorly planned. Xig expected to be fighting only the 40 or so DR members, but instead found themselves against a coalition of most of the top tribes at the time including FTR and Masons (and possibly HTW?).
The lack of quality of many Xig members became quickly apparent and the war became more of a slaughter with only pockets of Xig resistance holding out for any extended period. One of the better Xig factions immediatly broke off and became OAK, which led to some bitterness. Eventually only one cluster of Xig remained, that of Xig2's cluster on K44. The leadership of that tribe was handed over to Glassfamily (ie. me) and with Xig's blessing he worked on a policy of disaffiliation from Xig, and also began to seek peace with their enemies.
The tribe became renamed DAWN for a period, and ceasefires were eventually attained. It became obvious that DAWN could not survive on its own in an area at that time dominated by the CA, so a merger was sought after. Many mergers were offered and considered at this time including HOT, Smoker and the big Knights brotherhood that existed at the time, before eventually DAWN merged into D*D, effectively ending the last remnant of Xig as a tribe.
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Sorry about the stop in new post everybody... I went away for the weekend, so therefore couldn't do it. You should see the OT review popping up tonight or tomorrow, depending on how inspired I'm feeling.
