Are fugitives worth of war? (Story ut SCIOVA and YU)abo

[DeletedUser]

Do you like fugitives? I wish to know what players think of them.

I asking this because it seems that SCIOVA will start war because of that. The short story is that they accepted some fugitives (from U tribe which broken under constant attacks) but after mails from tribes RFG and YU they kicked them, which was fair. Then RFG "was really fair" not to defeat them (fugitives) then to invite them in their own tribe (lol) because of points and this two tribes are 5 & 6-th ranked so even one player is deciding who will be 5-th and who will be 6-th! When SCIOVA saw that - they invited fugitives again. But the problem is that YU continued attacks on mentioned players because they had an agreement and didn't know what is happening. It has been told to them (by Hermilion - leader of DCIOVA) that two weeks they (fugitives) wouldn't receive any support but after just few days Hermilion send an ultimatum about war if attacks are not ceased.

Don't need to mention that most probably there will be a war but they don't want to answer concrete is it war or not even they said it will be a momentally war if attacks are not stopped so that is morale, when you ask them they wouldn't say. Now, YU stopped attacks and wait the other side to respond.

Second thing - even RFG tried to make fool of SCIOVA (with asking to kick fugitives which they invited later) they now have NAP and it seems YU will be main victim. One more fact is that SCIOVA (rank 5-th at the moment) just is brave to attack tribes below rank 50 (like UN and they make their victories big and wants to everybody know for their victories like a big battle, they put that on the forum officially after they took them 88 villages - but that is another story). If I understand right, in this matter the RFG was the tribe which make whole mess but that two tribes aren't brave to solve that and they even make a NAP after that! lol!

So now the time will show will SCIOVA (or maybe RFG) be so brave to attack some tribe below rank 50, in this case YU is around 70-th (this is ironic) but it's obvious that they aren't brave to attack some tribe which is in their rang.

What is your opinion about whole story, it really interests me because I am playing this game for a whole year and I learned some unwritten laws which are respected, even by the 1-st ranked tribes (but not all, lol).

I am also expecting to hear some words from mentioned players and tribes so we can solve this - where everybody see what is happening.

 

[DeletedUser]

I already heard the story and it realy is an absurd one.

SCIOVA did what they had to do by kicking those players, that deserves to be said, but RFG just did the most rediculous thing I ever saw and deserves to be on the rim for that. To me it seems like they couldn't defeat those players as it would be more benefitial to just rim these guys, I would say they live up to their name Run For Glory (hmm, going down again).

My opinion is that SCIOVA should declare war on the RFG family, taking in fugitives shure shows that RFG is blessed with some great strategic minds, so I wouldn't worry about them.

Now about the NAP: We all know a NAP is often nothing more then a ceasefire. Appearently both sides aren't shure of their victory in a direct confrontation, but as soon as one of them is confident enough, a war will break loose.

You seem to be worried about your own tribe. Don't fear for both RFG and SCIOVA teaming up on you. Allied tribes rarely work together (and this is not how it should be), let alone NAPs.

 

[DeletedUser]

Yes, I agree with you ICECO and I already mentioned that because that is important:

The short story is that they accepted some fugitives (from U tribe which broken under constant attacks) but after mails from tribes RFG and YU they kicked them, which was fair.

And yes, I am worried about my own tribe because all of this mess and that is normall I guess?

I must make just one correction: the mentioned tribe isn't Glory but RunForGlory (tag: RFG, ranked 6-th) which don't have any connections with GLORY.

 

[DeletedUser]

I know, I was just making a subtle reference to what happened to GLORY.

If you read my post more attentive, you would have noticed

 

[DeletedUser]

Well .. I told that to aksa again and again.

Lets start with history regarding YU and U .. U was 2M tribe while
YU was there 0.7M tribe on K37. They were allies and when
U got problems with RFG this /..cut.../ YU attacked their allies by
nobling some weak and inactive players.

This you can see in TWplus .. just check.

I invited only top U players .. and when aksa send her ridiculous
demand to dismiss .. well I told her to give me a prove - a report
of attack on ANY player I invited or a declaration of war send
to U ..

Well she avoided this and did not send any prove - so I dismissed
her claim as ridiculos

She told me 'They were planning a war on U'. This is just ridiculous.

What she really want here to get is to have good players
given to her for kill for no reason - just to get them as
easy prey. They wanted kill on RFG target and now they
try to win it again by saing ridiculous lies

I call them for that VULTURES

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Now in this week they again attacked one player who switched to us
(MetalManiac) when he was our and still are saying this ridiculous story
about refugees.

Most probably what they were trying to achieve with those attacks on
MetalManiac is to check if we will do the same as U - ignore them when
they attack our weaker players while in dispute with RFG ..

Well .. we will not ignore any attack on us and all of our players are
active and screaming for support when in need .

Finally .. we gave them ultimatum to stop attack and
pay all loses at +% .. they failed to accept it.

For that I will have kirby and aksa heads on golden plate .. SOON

You just sit tight and watch

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Regarding last week dismiss - we dismissed those players because
RFG stared attacks on them in the same night as we invited them ..

Bad timing ..

Well .. nevertheless after a week or two we have solved our problems
with RFG. And aksa has nothing to do with this.

regards
Hermilion

 

[DeletedUser]

Thank you Aksa - Thank you for starting this thread so that all in W5 can see how you run your backstabbing tribe.

Its important people know the true story before they start to judge anything and thats not your version.

When -U- and RFG started the war, -U- had a NAP with -=YU=-. RFG were stronger and began to noble -U- villages in the South K37. After a while with loses -U- suddenly got attacks from their NAP -=YU=-. -=YU=- started to noble -U- villages because they knew people had troops at the front and -U- were loosing the war.

When -U- leaders asked why -=YU=- nobled some of their members you called them fugitives....... Like now...... How can they be fugitives if the have been in -U- for long??? You are using the word fugitives on almost everything which your tribe can benefit from.

I think you are writing this because the past is coming for you. Aksa, people are extremely tired of all your lies. You need to wake up and that might be to the sound of SCIOVA raping -=YU=- villages. I feel sorry for the members in your tribe who will suffer from your leadership and your lies.

I respect RFG for destroying -U-.

I have absolutely no respect for the lieing, backstabbing tribe -=YU=-.

The day I wake up and see the last -=YU=- village being nobled will be happy a day

 

[DeletedUser]

Aksa, you have some problems with definitions.

1. A fugitive is someone you're actively attacking, not someone you might someday choose to attack.

2. A vulture is a small creature, who takes advantage of wars to get fat. (That's you.)

3. This is not a war, it's an extermination.

You had very simple terms you needed to meet in order to avoid this. The cost was extremely small. Instead, you made threats, demands, and attacks. Now you're making pleas to the general public. You had one thing that would save you. You chose not to take that option.

You weren't in the position to set the terms, no matter what you might have thought. When it comes to warfare, both sides always believe they're right and justified. Nonetheless, the mouse doesn't attack the lion, unless the mouse has a death wish. Mouse, prepare to die.

 

[DeletedUser]

You weren't in the position to set the terms, no matter what you might have thought. When it comes to warfare, both sides always believe they're right and justified. Nonetheless, the mouse doesn't attack the lion, unless the mouse has a death wish. Mouse, prepare to die.

i really like this part:) loool SCIOVA is waring with a mouse! LOL pks should declare war on a keyboard!!!!

 

[DeletedUser]

We got attacked - well good I understood in that time
this is small tribe and any conflict will be just overkill ..

So I gave them choice - stop attack and pay loses ..
-> that is VERY reasonable - isn't it?

They were foolish enough to not accept it.

Then .. when you send an ultimatum to such small tribe
and they DO NOT accept .. what choice do you have?

Not attack? This would made us really laughable ...

And if I am to start conflict I will do it by the book,
with all planning and possibility for players to train new
tactics - to gain experience for players and for leaders.

 

[DeletedUser7397]

To answer your title

Are fugitives worth of war?

If you think it is ---> then yes

If you dont think it is ---> then no

If you need others to deside for you ---> step down as a leader

 

[DeletedUser]

We got attacked - well good I understood in that time
this is small tribe and any conflict will be just overkill ..

So I gave them choice - stop attack and pay loses ..
-> that is VERY reasonable - isn't it?

They were foolish enough to not accept it.

Then .. when you send an ultimatum to such small tribe
and they DO NOT accept .. what choice do you have?

Not attack? This would made us really laughable ...

And if I am to start conflict I will do it by the book,
with all planning and possibility for players to train new
tactics - to gain experience for players and for leaders.

I have attacked MetalManiac. Only me. I did that becouse MM one day is in SCIOVA next day is not. Hmm, good member? When I was planing attacks his wasnt is your tribe.Sorry but.....

About ultimatum mail:
I recived mail only from MM :"wtf are you stupid or what?." There is no message about stoping attacks or to pay looses. Hermilion, did You know that. And yes, we are small tribe but we are from crazy Balkan.

And know what? Do You declare war? How much is MetalManiac head?

 

[DeletedUser]

Well you can see:

When I was planing attacks his wasnt is your tribe. Sorry but.....

Metalmaniac joined back on 02th of July .. and your first attack
was on 07th .. well 5 days you should have come to your head
that attack on us is BAD idea ..

And mails - I do not communicate on that level - ultimatum
was send to all YU dukes .. which should have been enough ..

YU dukes failed to respond in given time .. so .. so .. well ..
they killed you ..

Sad story about Balkans? /.. I removed this comment, it was
not nice and not on place, I am sorry, Hermilion ../

 

[DeletedUser]

You send mail to kirby-graf, who dont speak english

not available SCIOVA July 2,2007 - 02:19
SCIOVA not available June 29,2007 - 20:19
-U- SCIOVA June 29,2007 - 05:19
not available -U- February 22,2007 - 10:19

 

[DeletedUser]

ok i have been informed of the conflict between yu and sciova!

now drbuda why did you atack metal maniac?

 

[DeletedUser]

ok i have been informed of the conflict between yu and sciova!

now drbuda why did you atack metal maniac?

I have attsacked him because his was in -U- and he was baned from from SCIOVA. If his good member why they baned him?

 

[DeletedUser]

Metalmaniac joined back on 02th of July .. and your first attack
was on 07th .. well 5 days you should have come to your head
that attack on us is BAD idea ..

Sad story about Balkans? Killed because could not communicate
with each other .. and did not understood the constraints of reality

If I join to another tribe, You will not attack me? Yeah sure ) ccccc

 

[DeletedUser]

You can see .. and I have to discuss in such logic with them ..
so I decided to finish this discussion and have this case closed
.. for good.

 

[DeletedUser]

Well you can see:

Sad story about Balkans? Killed because could not communicate
with each other .. and did not understood the constraints of reality

You dont know true story...


BTW
If you want, kill me.... just dont cry anymore, pls.....


END OF STORY ABOUT >>SCIOVA: FUGITIVES CAMP<<<

 

[DeletedUser]

Sad story about Balkans? /.. I removed this comment, it was
not nice and not on place, I am sorry, Hermilion ../

 

[DeletedUser]

i really like this part:) loool SCIOVA is waring with a mouse! LOL pks should declare war on a keyboard!!!!

Oh! No! Who's gonna save the lion when he gets trapped in the net then?