Are HOT losing ground in their wars?

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Lets see whether HOT has lost ground in the three wars they are in, especially in the "wars" we "started" by dropping the NAP over in July (MPX+CAKE?).

1. HOT Vs MPX

Side 1: HOTNW1 HOT HOTNW2 HOTNW3 HOTNW4 HOTNW5 HOTSE2 HOTSW3 HOT|FR HOT|NE HOT|NW HOT|SE HOT|SW

Side 2: MPX-32 MPX-E MPXCaB MPX|WR

Timeframe: Last week

Total conquers:

Side 1: 1,554
Side 2: 440
Difference: 1,114

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Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 267
Side 2: 227
Difference: 40

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Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 15,182,995
Side 2: 4,264,758
Difference: 10,918,237

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Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 2,488,608
Side 2: 2,278,312
Difference: 210,296

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HOT are winning by 200K and 40 conquers despite the fact that MPX did a good job on the 30th July (which made them say that they were going to start winning


HOT Vs SLB

Side 1: HOTNW1 HOT HOTNW2 HOTNW3 HOTNW4 HOTNW5 HOTSE2 HOTSW3 HOT|FR HOT|NE HOT|NW HOT|SE HOT|SW

Side 2: SLB

Timeframe: Last week

Total conquers:

Side 1: 1,552
Side 2: 202
Difference: 1,350

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Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 0
Side 2: 63
Difference: 63

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Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 15,160,920
Side 2: 2,105,168
Difference: 13,055,752

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Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 0
Side 2: 642,287
Difference: 642,287

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Whats up SW? 600K loss for them in the last week.


HOT Vs CAKE

Side 1: HOTNW1 HOT HOTNW2 HOTNW3 HOTNW4 HOTNW5 HOTSE2 HOTSW3 HOT|FR HOT|NE HOT|NW HOT|SE HOT|SW

Side 2: CAKE

Timeframe: Last week

Total conquers:

Side 1: 1,552
Side 2: 12
Difference: 1,540

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 8
Side 2: 11
Difference: 3

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Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 15,160,920
Side 2: 126,252
Difference: 15,034,668

Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 80,475
Side 2: 115,835
Difference: 35,360

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It seems they are losing but look at the last 48 hours

Side 1: HOTNW1 HOT HOTNW2 HOTNW3 HOTNW4 HOTNW5 HOTSE2 HOTSW3 HOT|FR HOT|NE HOT|NW HOT|SE HOT|SW

Side 2: CAKE

Timeframe: Last 48 hours

Total conquers:

Side 1: 411
Side 2: 0
Difference: 411

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 3
Side 2: 0
Difference: 3

Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 4,150,015
Side 2: 0
Difference: 4,150,015

Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 29,345
Side 2: 0
Difference: 29,345

It seems Ripfin got some targets before the "war" started and that makes CAKE win for the last week. But in the last 48 hours HOT has taken 3 villages of CAKE. Still there is little conquers meaning they are equal.



This concludes HOT's job for the last week. I'll post some stats next week. I posted only Stats which cant be disscussed and personal opinions which I understand some dont agree. Stats are stats and they show that after all the NAPs dropped have made HOT go up and although SLB are doing a great job against them HOT continues to be strong in the center and the NW. In the south HOT continues to lose but as HOT is still strong if another Op. is done it may change. Who knows, Im not so informed about that war as I am in the NW. CAKE war is equal although we cant say much atm as the war has just started and HOT is winning MPX in the last week, last 48h and last 24h (39-19)

manoalorts
 

DeletedUser

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I forgot to add the good job MPX is doing fighting HOT in their cluster. They are making this war interesting and very active between both sides.
 

DeletedUser

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manoalorts said:
I forgot to add the good job MPX is doing fighting HOT in their cluster. They are making this war interesting and very active between both sides.
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This is true. At the moment it is the only war that looks the most exciting.
With TW killing off Aten.
 

DeletedUser

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Yep, when I get time Ill do a detailed post about that war. As Ive got friends in both tribes you wont say I am biased there :)
 

DeletedUser

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manoalorts said:
Yep, when I get time Ill do a detailed post about that war. As Ive got friends in both tribes you wont say I am biased there :)
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Lets hope not ;)
should be a good read, with some inside info maybe ;P
 

Ripfin

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thing i find funny in all of this is that you feel proud of your 3 villages gained in past 48 hours? seriously do have any clue how that makes HoT look? your tribe is nooby and your players are nooby only thing helping you is the shear numbers if it was one on one i'd pwn every single lot of you but unlike you i have at minimum 35 players launching attacks at me. a few players launching as many as hundreds of attacks at me, and yet i seem tostill survive and take villages in fact i will be taking some more shortly.
 

DeletedUser

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Are HOT losing ground in their wars?

Answer cant be easier and clearer: YES
 

Ripfin

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Jonesi said:
No rip, we are not like you :)
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i can't tell since your so proud to be in HoT right now if i was i'd be embarrased with such a nobling record like that. face it HoT is dead and i'm ensuring the point will be hammered home once i'm gone if not before, face it HoT SLB is moving into your neighborhood so your gonna have more competition to face.
 

DeletedUser

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hmmm...maybe, just maybe it would give a better picture to include MPX, SLB and Cake together as one side. We are talking about 6 tribes playing 13 after all.
 

DeletedUser

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Side 1: HOT HOTNW1 HOTNW2 HOTNW3 HOTNW4 HOTNW5 HOTSE2 HOT|SE HOT|NW HOT|SW HOTSW3 HOT|FR HOT|NE

Side 2: CAKE SLB MPX-E MPX|WR MPX-32 MPXCaB

Timeframe: Last week

Total conquers:

Side 1: 1,543
Side 2: 626
Difference: 917

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Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 266
Side 2: 262
Difference: 4

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Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 15,188,703
Side 2: 6,179,757
Difference: 9,008,946

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Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 2,529,934
Side 2: 2,666,039
Difference: 136,105

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DeletedUser

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Updated Stats

As promissed Im posting the stats of this week. As I have had a sitter for 4 days I dont know how we are doing so its interesting to see whether still HOT wins against MPX and if there has been an active "war" against CAKE (because I know HOT will lose against SLB as mostly every week in the last few months:icon_cry:)

1. HOT Vs MPX and the indipendent Eagles

Side 1: HOT HOTNW1 HOTNW2 HOTNW3 HOTNW4 HOTNW5 HOTSE2 HOTSW3 HOT|SE HOT|FR HOT|NE HOT|SW HOT|NW

Side 2: MPX-E Eagles MPX-32 MPXCaB

Timeframe: Last week

Total conquers:

Side 1: 1,407
Side 2: 393
Difference: 1,014

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 157
Side 2: 129
Difference: 28

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Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 13,972,646
Side 2: 3,768,344
Difference: 10,204,302

Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 1,525,040
Side 2: 1,333,303
Difference: 191,737

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Changes? Not many, both sides have taken less village from the opposite side and HOT have taken nearly 200K off MPX, meaning they are still winning the weakly stats.



2. HOT Vs SLB

Side 1: HOT HOTNW1 HOTNW2 HOTNW3 HOTNW4 HOTNW5 HOTSE2 HOTSW3 HOT|SE HOT|FR HOT|NE HOT|SW HOT|NW

Side 2: SLB

Timeframe: Last week

Total conquers:

Side 1: 1,407
Side 2: 147
Difference: 1,260

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 4
Side 2: 32
Difference: 28

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Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 13,972,646
Side 2: 1,469,867
Difference: 12,502,779

Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 37,958
Side 2: 315,675
Difference: 277,717

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Changes? Well strangely there has been some :). HOT have improved and took 4 villages (last week they had taken 0) and SLB has taken aprox. 1/3 of the conquers they took last week. Still SLB takes 270K off HOT.



3. HOT Vs CAKE

Side 1: HOT HOTNW1 HOTNW2 HOTNW3 HOTNW4 HOTNW5 HOTSE2 HOTSW3 HOT|SE HOT|FR HOT|NE HOT|SW HOT|NW

Side 2: CAKE

Timeframe: Last week

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 3
Side 2: 5
Difference: 2

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Changes? None. Still this is only a "NAP to Neutral". No war going on although cake "wins" 5-3.


This concludes this weeks' HOT stats. Still winning against MPX (with less conquers by both sides), better, but still bad, against SLB and hardly any conquers against CAKE. I hope Ive not been very biased on the comments.

manoalorts
 

DeletedUser

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to be frank, MPX is doing a great job but I would rather see MPX live then be killed off. MPX and HOT in the NW have lived in harmony for aslong as I can remember and with the impressive performance they are displaying, I cant deny it, I like them. Moreover, if MPX falls then we really will be in trouble with only 3 big tribes left. We need MPX for more diversity in this world.
 

DeletedUser

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I agree, I like MPX too, especially MPX-E.
But as they are enemies I like to attack them as long as there is war :) If HOT dont attack MPX then MPX will start winning in the stats and taking us villages.
 

DeletedUser

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Kindly remake your stats without the former MPX|WR and current Eagles please, Mano. They're no longer a part of MPX.

I think that might improve the stats. Of course, it'll also mean we're down 13 million points or so, but let's not get into that.

Also, I agree. I'd like MPX to stick around as well :icon_biggrin:
 

DeletedUser

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OK Ill do that when I get time :)

And HOT still is at war with them and I wanted to compare them but I think its good if I make them without them as if not it isnt just HOT Vs MPX.
 

DeletedUser

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Since I'm impatient...

Side 1: MPX-E MPX-32 MPXCaB

Side 2: HOT HOT|NE HOT|FR HOT|NW HOT|SE HOT|SW HOTNW1 HOTNW2 HOTNW3 HOTNW4 HOTNW5 HOTSE2 HOTSW3

Timeframe: Last week

Total conquers:

Side 1: 314
Side 2: 1,395
Difference: 1,081

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Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 103
Side 2: 133
Difference: 30

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Points value of total conquers:

Side 1: 3,010,036
Side 2: 13,841,228
Difference: 10,831,192

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Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 1,070,869
Side 2: 1,311,463
Difference: 240,594

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I admit to some surprise, as the stats actually got worse by removing Eagles.

Oh well, it did improve the month stats somewhat, so I'll keep myself happy at that thought.
 

DeletedUser

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Sorry for that Grim :( I must say from experience that most of the players in Eagles are active (just checked that as I scouted a few of them and they and avictorious mailed me), something I cant say of some players of the other 2 MPX branches which are not MPX-E... :(

I am just having supper and going in and out the PC so I dont have time, could you make the Stats against MPX-E only? If stats change it can give value to my theory :)
 
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