Barbarian Nobling Agreement

Marajax

Guest
just a side note to this barb nobling agreement ??

i see seberl 1 from onoez which is OMEN pet tribe seem to have gone barb mad over the last few weeks and still carrying on even when OMEN seem to want other tribes not to noble barbs.I wonder if we looked more into this pet tribe what we would find....im guessing more barbs being taken :icon_eek:
 
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angrim

Well-Known Member
Last few weeks? seberl 1 has been a pure barb nobler forever. Have to respect his dedication and activity levels to keep that many little villages growing without pause, and his defense ranking is also solid. I don't know if he trains attack troops at all though, so he would have trouble if we stopped him from taking barbarians.
I bet there are a lot of other players like him who would really hate a ban on nobleing little barbarians. Wouldn't affect me much of any though :)
 

Marajax

Guest
hes not the only one in onoez who are doing this on mass barb nobling......maybe when he builds his newly taken barbs up someone has a nicely protective zone to call on or to get handed over ??????

it just seems odd to me that OMEN preach about an end to barb taking when their pet tribe do so on mass.

they could build them up for OMEN to take later for no cost but thats the cynical side of me ......
 

angrim

Well-Known Member
they could build them up for OMEN to take later for no cost but thats the cynical side of me ......
Sounds good to me. Although I don't see why the Onoez players would be willing to do that, it takes just as much work for them to build a village up as it does for one of us.
Anyway, is there a tool around that will let you easily check how many barbarian villages under 1500 points each tribe has nobled in the last month? How about a list of the top mini-barb nobling players sorted by number of mini-barbs they have taken in the last month, or total? Not that it matters much, but it's something to do while I wait for my noble trains to hit.
 

teddygram

Guest
i'v nobled 2 1k barbs total since i started this world i'll noble barbs whenever i want :p
you know what i'm gonna noble 2 right now just so i can say i'm gonna noble them whenever i want :icon_wink:
 

Daethon

Guest
Anyway, is there a tool around that will let you easily check how many barbarian villages under 1500 points each tribe has nobled in the last month?
TWstats.

Omen - 660-ish (out of 859 in total)
One - 120-ish (out of 185 in total)
P-Ctrl - 220-ish (out of 420 in total)

Closer analysis proves that One and P-Ctrl have started or rapidly increased barb nobling once Omen started mass-nobling them. The fault clearly lies with Omen.

I remember the days when top tribes were the ones giving the good example and the nooby tribes were the ones clustering up. For only the top tribes had the long-term insight that the short-term gains of barb nobling are a world killer.

Seriously. How can a tribe even have a war party on one side and barb nobling turtles on the other? Sense, it makes none.
 
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Marajax

Guest
the way i see it is that OMEN want an end to barb nobling yet seem to want their pet tribe ONOEZ to slip under the radar.Carry on mass barb taking and then to be nobled by OMEN later.They are currently doing so to ONOEZ villages now.

Village Points Old Owner New Owner Date/Time
003 Groundopolis (438|897) K84 9,915 r0n1n23 [Onoez] Lady Demise [Omen] 2010-09-11 11:58:39
004 Nightwish (435|901) K94 9,939 r0n1n23 [Onoez] Lady Demise [Omen] 2010-09-11 03:02:54
065 Denethor (552|920) K95 2,682 Abandoned r0n1n23 [Onoez] 2010-09-11 02:59:01
039 Peregrin (367|886) K83 8,618 r0n1n23 [Onoez] Lady Demise [Omen]

on the same day as r0n1n23 takes a barb OMEN take 2 of his villages.There are many more examples ;)
 

dntempire

Guest
the way i see it is that OMEN want an end to barb nobling yet seem to want their pet tribe ONOEZ to slip under the radar.Carry on mass barb taking and then to be nobled by OMEN later.They are currently doing so to ONOEZ villages now.

Village Points Old Owner New Owner Date/Time
003 Groundopolis (438|897) K84 9,915 r0n1n23 [Onoez] Lady Demise [Omen] 2010-09-11 11:58:39
004 Nightwish (435|901) K94 9,939 r0n1n23 [Onoez] Lady Demise [Omen] 2010-09-11 03:02:54
065 Denethor (552|920) K95 2,682 Abandoned r0n1n23 [Onoez] 2010-09-11 02:59:01
039 Peregrin (367|886) K83 8,618 r0n1n23 [Onoez] Lady Demise [Omen]

on the same day as r0n1n23 takes a barb OMEN take 2 of his villages.There are many more examples ;)
Does the term, "account merging" ring a bell to you.? enough said.
 

Marajax

Guest
oh its dntempire ...yawn

this is about OMEN saying please dont take anymore barbs

so they are merging accounts ??? of a player who is still actively taking barbs while being merged into OMEN ??????

ENOUGH SAID
 

AllAheadFull

Guest
???

Wonder why these forums are a waste of time?

Well, let's see - Mitsche makes a detailed and reasoned argument that barb nobling should stop. While a few folks take him seriously, most folks start attacking Omen as a barb nobler. Heck, some of you are wasting your time searching around to find a player nobling a 2,700pointer? Pls.

Perhaps someone from leadership of the remaining tribes could put forth a proposal that could then be debated and agreed upon?

Certainly no one in Omen expects other tribes to agree to a proposal that would ratify a status quo that puts those tribes at a perceived disadvantage. Quick math can be done and a limit set. Perhaps the number of barbs could be tallied and an allowance made. If Omen has nobled more barbs as a percentage of our total villages, then the other tribes would be allowed to "catch up" before they cease?

Let's have some more substance to this discussion? Omen has the most villages and the most real estate here in w45. If we want, we could easily win any "barb nobling war", yet Mitsche wants to stop this. Help him?
 

Jurasu

Guest
hes not the only one in onoez who are doing this on mass barb nobling......maybe when he builds his newly taken barbs up someone has a nicely protective zone to call on or to get handed over ??????

it just seems odd to me that OMEN preach about an end to barb taking when their pet tribe do so on mass.

they could build them up for OMEN to take later for no cost but thats the cynical side of me ......
It is a proposal. We didn't say we were going to stop the moment Mitsche posted that. We wanted a world-wide agreement.

It's obviously a good strategy on this world. Single packet nobles means you can take a lot, and if you have the patience, you'll have beastly clusters of villages everywhere. However, everyone will have this and it'll be nearly impossible to take villages from active players who know what they are doing. We want this game to be challenging, not impossible. However, should not everyone agree to this, there is no reason for us to stop on our own. Either everyone does, or no one does. It won't be just some people, so until such a time where we can all agree to stop, there is no reason to stop either.
 

Marajax

Guest
i agree with Miitsche opening statement and my comments which followed were a discussion on its merits.I just find it funny that while this was posted and it must have been dicussed in OMEN before it was posted that OMEN and ONOEZ have carried on mass barb taking.

the 2.7k barb was just the first one i found,no long search required you can just check the tw stats on any player of ONOEZ to quite a few of OMEN see mass barb nobling i surely dont have to post it on here.Maybe AllAheadFull thinks a forum discussion is only worthwhile if we all agree to the opening statement and not to discuss its merits

OMEN like ONE are the 2 biggest tribe by a long way and should set the standards for smaller tribes to follow.Its no good saying we should all agree to stop nobling barbs just after your tribe have taken a huge daily amount of barbs and continue to do so and ONOEZ are apparently being account merged while still taking barbs.

OMEN should just stop barb taking NOW,then discuss,then maybe we would all sit around and set fair targets of barbs taking,its not as if we could catch up with the amount of barbs OMEN HAVE AND ARE TAKING
 

teddygram

Guest
i'm just gonna stay out of it and thank Daethon for taking the time out of his busy day for the stats :D
 

Daethon

Guest
I'm OK with Omen stopping and One catching up a bit, after which One would stop too. Nobling barbs is boring and certainly not the road I want my tribe to take.
 

mitsche

Still Going Strong
Road Trash, Why are you doing so much barbarian nobling?

Road Trash has begun nobling barbarian villages


Roadtrash 0730a (608|603) K66 1,206 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-21 22:27:27
Barbarian village (555|546) K55 1,004 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-21 21:55:12
Roadtrash 0589a (922|523) K59 3,921 Andarta [HEAT] Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-21 21:02:59
Roadtrash 0096a (614|307) K36 1,145 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-21 20:55:01
Roadtrash 0728a (611|599) K56 1,442 sdeck3 [BlackD] Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-21 20:39:02
Roadtrash 0107a (612|313) K36 1,045 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-21 20:26:21
Roadtrash 0360a (591|530) K55 1,064 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-21 20:07:40
Roadtrash 0366a (542|544) K55 1,053 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-21 19:49:13
Roadtrash 0357a (574|533) K55 1,016 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-21 19:49:03
Roadtrash 0353a (593|529) K55 1,001 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-21 19:48:51
Roadtrash 0736a (617|611) K66 1,259 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-21 18:47:33
Roadtrash 0587a (923|511) K59 2,125 Andarta [HEAT] Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-21 18:36:53
Roadtrash 0449a (548|572) K55 1,023 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-21 18:12:01
Roadtrash 0743a (632|623) K66 1,020 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-21 17:59:10
Roadtrash 0125a (650|380) K36 1,146 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-21 17:36:00
Roadtrash 0117a (602|352) K36 1,012 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-21 17:34:20
Roadtrash 0433a (552|561) K55 1,024 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-21 17:30:34
Roadtrash 0370a (556|545) K55 1,025 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-21 17:28:04
Roadtrash 0368a (548|548) K55 1,002 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-21 17:27:09
Roadtrash 0581b (901|505) K59 2,237 Andarta [HEAT] Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-21 10:53:19
Roadtrash 0578a (880|515) K58 2,072 Andarta [HEAT] Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-21 10:32:44
Roadtrash 0783 (661|892) K86 6,201 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-21 10:03:12
Roadtrash 0581a (900|505) K59 6,659 Andarta [HEAT] Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-21 09:47:16
Roadtrash 0301a (474|554) K54 6,161 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-21 05:19:43
Roadtrash 0240a (921|448) K49 2,886 RedneckPimp Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-21 04:20:30
Roadtrash 0082a (599|355) K35 1,002 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-21 01:07:06
Roadtrash 0055a (617|300) K36 1,004 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-21 00:19:29
Roadtrash 0028a (607|275) K26 1,009 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-20 23:56:28
Roadtrash 0679a (427|666) K64 2,472 Default. [One] Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-20 23:50:59
Roadtrash 0123 (609|360) K36 1,002 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-20 23:07:15
Roadtrash 0047 (611|287) K26 1,025 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-20 22:58:33
Roadtrash 0100 (606|313) K36 1,008 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-20 22:48:14
Roadtrash 0046 (610|287) K26 1,003 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-20 22:46:41
Roadtrash 0028 (608|275) K26 1,003 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-20 22:21:36
Roadtrash 0024 (607|274) K26 1,001 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-20 22:20:34
Roadtrash 0104 (603|315) K36 1,016 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-20 21:31:58
Roadtrash 0103 (605|310) K36 1,003 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-20 21:30:57
Roadtrash 0006 (607|265) K26 1,001 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-20 21:24:10
Roadtrash 0048 (617|288) K26 1,007 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-20 21:18:01
Roadtrash 0105 (604|315) K36 1,015 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-20 21:09:48
Roadtrash 0095 (616|300) K36 1,008 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-20 21:08:52
Roadtrash 0009 (607|266) K26 1,024 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-20 21:06:45
Roadtrash 0134 (490|481) K44 7,321 Jeps123 [One] Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-20 21:06:01
Roadtrash 0038 (610|282) K26 1,018 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-20 20:49:59
Roadtrash 0119 (601|354) K36 1,020 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-20 20:40:52
Roadtrash 0030 (607|270) K26 1,021 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-20 20:27:52
Roadtrash 0078 (598|349) K35 1,042 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-20 20:04:45
Roadtrash 0132 (499|475) K44 7,766 Jeps123 [One] Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-20 19:14:15
Roadtrash 0133 (495|477) K44 9,000 Jeps123 [One] Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-20 17:47:18
Roadtrash 0135 (497|482) K44 6,421 Jeps123 [One] Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-20 14:09:24
Roadtrash 0113 (694|328) K36 1,047 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-20 10:34:21
Roadtrash 0523 (616|569) K56 1,335 jeryboy [PLAGUE] Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-20 07:20:30
Roadtrash 0077 (570|342) K35 1,016 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-20 06:55:05
Roadtrash 0698 (485|680) K64 3,070 Default. [One] Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-20 06:42:35
Roadtrash 0127 (859|367) K38 1,002 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-20 02:15:45
Roadtrash 0495 (570|593) K55 1,576 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-20 02:10:26
Roadtrash 0520 (616|567) K56 1,637 jeryboy [PLAGUE] Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-20 01:50:15
Roadtrash 0099 (608|312) K36 1,011 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-20 01:39:26
Roadtrash 0688 (422|676) K64 5,894 Default. [One] Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-20 01:38:20
Roadtrash 0480 (532|590) K55 1,011 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-20 01:29:36
Roadtrash 0458 (523|588) K55 1,684 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-19 23:45:50
Roadtrash 0492 (568|596) K55 1,023 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-19 23:15:03
Roadtrash 0644 (421|641) K64 3,907 Default. [One] Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-19 23:07:48
Roadtrash 0155 (712|495) K47 1,015 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-19 22:35:42
Roadtrash 0489 (567|595) K55 1,025 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-19 22:09:53
Roadtrash 0488 (569|594) K55 1,001 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-19 22:08:51
Roadtrash 0491 (569|595) K55 1,007 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-19 22:08:08
Roadtrash 0497 (570|594) K55 1,022 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-19 21:53:24
Roadtrash 0055 (617|299) K26 1,010 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-19 20:59:01
Roadtrash 0709 (539|607) K65 1,026 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-19 19:54:56
Roadtrash 0721 (543|608) K65 1,009 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-19 19:54:06
Roadtrash 0496 (577|593) K55 1,004 Abandoned Roadtrash [One] 2010-09-19 19:45:22
 

richard 2610

Guest
Man this makes me laugh :lol:

And like you can even talk that roadtrash just nobled so many :icon_rolleyes::icon_redface: