I don't know where you were during the DN/BD war, but you know very little about it. We had the numbers yes, then we lost a hell of alot of those numbers quickly due to a chain reaction of inactivity, one then another etc.. You would be surprised how many people in w30 can not just "click buttons"..lol though i agree more and more people are sending faster trains, sniping not as much but the skill is easily learned. When we talk about how good we were, its not all talk about the skill, its more of how close we were as we were one of the tightest groups since the start of the world, the low member count, close bonds, that is what I remember it for as do alot of others..I think its allowed to push smaller accounts but not bigger accounts. Therefore, both of you are right ...
As for Pure: You were very excited when you took acid's account. You were flying with excitement of all those nukes you had to send but once we started backfire , you lost the will to play the game. It might be due to our cats and nukes or it might be due to the bad timing you thought of not playing but I don't find it a coincidence as a lot of BD players claim that it wasn't due to our nukes and cats but due to bad timing as this excuse is getting too old. Don't you agree? Come up with a new one... I've seen many giving similar excuses. Winning a war without randomly wasting nobles is smarter and I think you didn't know about it till now. I have no complaints against Raven or any accounts he sat coz he loves incomming unlike 99% of the BD players who likes to go whine in the corner and come up in the PnP with all the might saying " We could've won but we're all bored to lift our fingers to win" .
As for you stating about skills, I will say it again that TW is no hard thing to learn and by now almost everyone in W30 knows how to snipe a 200ms noble trains or send a train, "Its just clicking buttons!". The only difference that makes is your gameplay and your thinking capacity. DN wouldn't have been dead as you guys got numbers and if you had the guts, you could've revived it but you all were so amazed with Bd's power that you chose to side with them against us and terribly smacked to humility yet have the courage to speak of how good you guys are.
Pure, don't want to be rude here but a person should know when to stop arguing and don't be like Gicusan. I thought you were different than him.
And why the hell do you keep saying I am making excuses about your cats making me want to leave. I have said multiple times that it WAS! It was also that I had no emotional attachment to the account so I didn't mind so much to see it rot and free me from the tw addiction. And I have also said to Shipley that the CATS are a great idea to demoralize a player if you can send enough of them, I just don't like the tactic personally..