I left this world a couple of weeks ago and the Doc said that as part of my cold turkey program, I could continue to post here once in a while!
Proxking, in answer to your original question. I don't
hate BORG, but here are some of the reasons why I dislike them:
1. They took over 3 months to give us an alliance when we asked for one at the end of last year. The reason they delayed so long was because they wanted to persuade GTG to merge into them.
2. When it became clear that GTG preferred to keep their identity, they put further pressure on us by taking a lot of our larger players from us. I warned all their leaders at the time that taking our players who had arrived with us from BDR would have the effect of making it more likely that we would side with CTRL in any BORG/CTRL war.. but did they listen?
At the time, we were pretty much on a par with TUBA in the rankings and BORG taking a dozen or so of our players really hurt us.
If BORG had given us an alliance when we originally asked for it, they would not have taken those players, because allies do not take players from each other without permission.
3. BORG's main spokesperson on this forum is finny. He seems to have qualified to be the main spokesperson on this forum for BORG, simply because he has the biggest mouth!
Well, it's OK for a representative of a tribe to be vocal on behalf of his tribe, providing he has the intelligence to go with it and providing they can back it up wioth achievements in the game. Finny fails on both these counts.
He lacks class and respect and he lacks intelligence. He contradicts himself time and again and makes BORG a laughing stock with each post he makes.
As an example, I have just noticed he contributed to GTG's leaving thread. Just about every other person on that thread managed to show some respect and sadness that GTG were leaving world 10. I delieberately did not try to claim any sort of victory for GTG in my original post, but he could not resist saying that BORG had won their war against GTG. (Even though we kicked BORG's butt for seven months and took nearly twice as many vwar villages than we lost.)
4. Most of BORG's players who were the original account holders when this war broke out have gone. All of their original leaders have gone from the game.
It's ok for a tribe to have a few replacement account holders, GTG had 4 or 5 accounts that were not played by their original owners, but once it gets up to around 75% of the accounts being run by players who did nothing to deserve the big accounts that were handed to them, then a tribe loses it's respect and identity.
Yes, I am sure GTG could have continued if I had put out a call for people to take over inactive accounts.. but then it would not have been GTG to my way of thinking.
5. Suspicions over the way accounts are transferred around between BORG players.
This is not about giving inactive accounts to new account holders, it is more about re-circulating accounts amongst yopur existing players in order to keep accounts alive and usable beyond the 60 day sitting stage.
For instance, I know of several BORG players who have transferred between 2 or 3 BORG accounts. Zhenlan has played at least 4 accounts in BORG
It's annoying in war when an account that has obviously been inactive for more than 60 days suddenly comes to life. If this happened once or twice then I could accept that the old account owner had found someone to take it over. However, it happened so many times in BORG that it raises the suspicion that account passwords were kept and accounts reactivated by the merry-go-round of account transferrance within BORG. This is not only against the rules of account sitting, it is also against the reason that account sitting was originally allowed. I.E. To allow temporary sitting of an account for an account holder who would be returning.
Of course proving the above is impossible, but as I say, so many people in BORG have switched accounts to make it highly suspicious. In fact, you yourself have switched from your original account (although I am not saying that, in
your case, this was not a genuine situation of you leaving and then deciding later you wanted to return to the game)
Please don't say "Well CTRL do the same". This is not a thread about CTRL and I do not know, nor do I care if CTRL do it as well. All I know is about how GTG operated and
we did not resort to these methods.
6. The anonymity of those playing BORG accounts.
When you are playing a game like this, where there is inter-reaction between the players you are at war with, it's good to know
WHO you are fighting against. Otherwise you might as well be playing against bots.
BORG players seem to go to great lengths to avoid saying which accounts they are playing. Finny is the perfect example.. he infers he is still playing (at least he
talks like he is playing, but there is a great mystery about which account he
is actuualy playing. Could be, of course, that he is all mouth again and he is not actually playing an account, although still making himself out to be the spokesperson for BORG.
7. BORG's lack of respect for their enemies.
Apart from yourself, it seems that not one person, apart form yourself, posted showed any respect for GTG, on our leaving thread. To their credit, there were several posters from DDB that showed their respect, even though we were on opposite sides.
8. BORG's inability to leave this world with good grace.
When I posted that GTG were effectively disbanding, this gave BORG the perfect opportunity to bow out of this world with some honour and dignity. It is well known that over half your accounts are sat and GTG's statement gave BORG the opportunity to make a similar announcement.
Yes, there are players in both GTG and BORG who would wish to continue playing.. but the GTG players who wished to continue went to CTRL and BORG players could have gone to one of the DDB tribes.
All our sat accounts were left to delete and all BORG's sat accounts could have gone the same way. Most of the players still playing this world want it to end within months rather than years and if BORG has disbanded in the same way as GTG did, then this process could have been speeded up.
GTG showed BORG the honorable way for a tribe to exit this world. Unfortunately BORG did not take the hint and follow suit. Instead you get an idiot like finny posting and declaring victory over GTG!
By stubbornly continuing, with their overwhelming weight of sat accounts, BORG is ensuring that this world is likely to continue for another couple of years... for what?
9. BORG's (and DDB's for that matter) apparent strategy for war against CTRL of trying to take more barbs than villages they lose in war.
Both tribes appear to concentrate more on taking barb's than fighting against live enemies and finny's statement on the GTG thread that this is an acceptable way of wining a war makes BORG look pathetic. Can I remind all BORG and DDB players that
YOU were the ones that declared war against CTRL? You say that at least you had the balls to declare against CTRL and if you had not done so then this wolrd would have died, but declaring and making the taking of barb's your main strategy for victory is a bit pointless.
10. A lot of the public trash talking about GTG by finny, welsh and a few others from BORG in the first few weeks of our war with BORG.
Yes, I know PnP is about trying to demoralise and talk down your enemy, but comparing GTG to LunaW and saying that we would go the same way as that tribe was pretty insulting.
And when it became obvious that we were
more than capable of holding our own against BORG and that we were in fact well ahead against them.. there were no retractions and no apologies and little public respect shown by BORG for our acheivements against them.
THESE are most of the reasons why I
personally dislike BORG. It is a personal answer to the original question you posted and the reasons I have given are not intended for discussion to change my mind. For one thing, I will not be around that often to continue the discussion now I have left world 10.
Sorry it's such a very long post.. but then there are just
so MANY reasons to dislike BORG!!:icon_biggrin:
