I didn't miss your point nor am I mistaken in how you view things. What I pointed out was that the way RAM views things is not the only way to view things. Your perception of what a good tribe mate (citizen) should do and their perception of what to do are different. Striking and protesting all takes time and given we only have a limited amount of time (lifespan) it is from my perspective a far more worthy use of time to spend it doing what makes us as individuals happy rather than protesting that which we do not like.It might be you didn't get my point yet. Like your example was "if a person doesn't like the law of the country, he can leave the country", but you're completely mistaken in the way we view things. If you don't like the law, you do a strike and fight to change the law. That is what a good citizen of every single country does. You reply sounds like if you don't like things, turn your tails and abandon your country.
This is a matter of perception and it certainly does not mean you are wrong in how you view things. I am pointing out that your way is not the only way.
The use of terms like "you have to" and "you should" is dictatorial in relation to your perception of propriety. You are stating that this is what is expected of a RAM player. Perhaps that is one of the reasons Noobaxes left. He didn't wish to take part in what your beliefs were in relation to what players should do or have to do.BD, might be something different, 1. but in RAM you have to make your point, instead of just saying I don't like it, which is just plain and not enough. When I gave my point, I had reasoning on it, and it wasn't just some plain text saying about it. Yes, as Cypres says, "", but I already explained it in the previous post which I'll repeat again. Sometimes, yes, the majority of the tribe might take wrong decision, 2.but it doesn't mean that you have to abandon a tribe for that, you should try to reach out even more or as a tribe mate just carry the weight, and try to make wrong, the right.
The point you are missing is that nobody has to do anything regardless of whom they play with. Every person is their own island and if you want them on your team, it would be prudent for you to understand this very fundamental reality.
This is a detraction designed to draw a comparison between the motivations of players and situations alien to the subject matter. When I drew the comparison between what I faced in BD and what Noobaxes apparently faced, they were akin in the sense that we both had grievances with the establishment that were not being addressed satisfactorily.Every thing in this world has two side of a coin, ying and yang, good or bad. For example, PHOENX chose to war RAM, but in future if they lose the war, would you call it a bad decision? From my point of view, it'll be that they tried whatever they could to make that decision right and had their members try their best to fight for it.
You are perfectly correct in stating that Noobaxes is not correct and by that same token neither is RAM leadership. There is no right and wrong. In this situation it is simply a divergence of desires for want of a better explanation from what I am reading. Your conclusion I enjoyed reading and I choose not to argue with it as it is balanced.But, don't know why when it comes to RAM, now people say, yes noobaxes is right. What I'm saying here is, that we both are at fault, one for not listening soft spoken words, and one for not voicing out his words, and not listening. Parm, you have mentioned that its more time taking to do explanation and a lot of hassle, then why have time to talk to outsiders about it rather than coming it at your own? That is all I say, and hope the one that is missing in action, will come back to his home after having his small road trip.
EC -most of what we disagreed on is a matter of opinion and the argument is circular. We could continue at it back and forth but it will not make me right nor you wrong since we simply hold different views on what is expected of players. I do appreciate your reply and I certainly was not drawing a comparison between a game and a RL genocide - how the hell did you draw that conclusion?!!! I pointed out I was drawing a comparison and making an example in several instances. Anyway, thanks for the reply
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