-CEG- attacking CAKE

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Also let me point this out to all the nay sayers.


i dont care who you are, if you're dumb enough to say you could intelligently defend against thousands of REAL attacks on all of your villages simultaniously landing within seconds of eachother you're just being unreal, because thats how W1 TW rolls, 300-400 players will team up on one or two people, there will be thousands of real attacks, not fakes but REAL attacks, and thats on top of the thousands of fake attacks that will be mixed in.

can any other tribe on this world make this kind of claim? can anyone organize that well? if so i'd be very suprised.
 

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callousstranger said:
the same could be said of your 2 million point players. im not trying to compare w1 and 2 anymore because you're right, they're different, im merely pointing out the facts.
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They are facts in one world...as stated the worlds are different...thus those facts placed here are fiction, till proven otherwise.

As for our 2+ million point players...I don't think anyone can assumed they don't know how to play the game. You statement was that on W1 there have been 2 million point players taken out in an night. Well either they were poorly located 2 million point players...thus surrounded by enemies with no hope to survive or the entire statement has been a bit exaggerated.

I don't believe there is a single tribe on this server that could remove a player like me in a night...It would take a week for some troops to even arrive.

On the other hand...if CEG, ESL, TW, HoT, Apache and some members of CAKE all planned to attack me and did...yes they could probably remove me in a nights time. But what that would prove is that I was a poor TW player and did not make any friends or allies. Since I am such a nice guy and so loved by everyone :icon_wink: ...that is not the case and I don't worry about being wiped out over a night.

The large players in W2 are that such because most of their villages were in very safe locations, usually deep in allied or tribal territory. At least most of them, thus eliminating any possibly of being able to be wiped out overnight.
 

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callousstranger said:
Also let me point this out to all the nay sayers.


i dont care who you are, if you're dumb enough to say you could intelligently defend against thousands of REAL attacks on all of your villages simultaniously landing within seconds of eachother you're just being unreal, because thats how W1 TW rolls, 300-400 players will team up on one or two people, there will be thousands of real attacks, not fakes but REAL attacks, and thats on top of the thousands of fake attacks that will be mixed in.

can any other tribe on this world make this kind of claim? can anyone organize that well? if so i'd be very suprised.
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You actually need to be 300-400 players to take out one or two?
 

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callousstranger said:
Also let me point this out to all the nay sayers.


i dont care who you are, if you're dumb enough to say you could intelligently defend against thousands of REAL attacks on all of your villages simultaniously landing within seconds of eachother you're just being unreal, because thats how W1 TW rolls, 300-400 players will team up on one or two people, there will be thousands of real attacks, not fakes but REAL attacks, and thats on top of the thousands of fake attacks that will be mixed in.

can any other tribe on this world make this kind of claim? can anyone organize that well? if so i'd be very suprised.
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Well since a tribe can not be that large on W2...that is more difficult to accomplish. Could it be done...sure. But sadly many on W2 actually deal with something called "real life" so I don't have the time or care to use the tools (cheats in my mind) to make it happen.

Could a player survive that? Yup...easily if they have as many friends.
 

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bolaar said:
They are facts in one world...as stated the worlds are different...thus those facts placed here are fiction, till proven otherwise.

As for our 2+ million point players...I don't think anyone can assumed they don't know how to play the game. You statement was that on W1 there have been 2 million point players taken out in an night. Well either they were poorly located 2 million point players...thus surrounded by enemies with no hope to survive or the entire statement has been a bit exaggerated.

I don't believe there is a single tribe on this server that could remove a player like me in a night...It would take a week for some troops to even arrive.

On the other hand...if CEG, ESL, TW, HoT, Apache and some members of CAKE all planned to attack me and did...yes they could probably remove me in a nights time. But what that would prove is that I was a poor TW player and did not make any friends or allies. Since I am such a nice guy and so loved by everyone :icon_wink: ...that is not the case and I don't worry about being wiped out over a night.

The large players in W2 are that such because most of their villages were in very safe locations, usually deep in allied or tribal territory. At least most of them, thus eliminating any possibly of being able to be wiped out overnight.
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let me find some of the TW plus reports for yah, im not making this up, i'll just have to dig around our forums a bit.

and w1 is different in the aspect that it was Core vs middle vs rim, with TW in the middle, Robac mostly in the core, and smaller tribes on the rim, if you organize correctly nobody is safe, but it makes defending the villages after you capture them hell if they're surrounded by larger players.

from the map ry-fi showed me the other night, w2 appears to be left vs right vs bottom with HOT patrolling the border.
 

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bolaar said:
Well since a tribe can not be that large on W2...that is more difficult to accomplish. Could it be done...sure. But sadly many on W2 actually deal with something called "real life" so I don't have the time or care to use the tools (cheats in my mind) to make it happen.

Could a player survive that? Yup...easily if they have as many friends.
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nah no cheats needed, just a good spreadsheet that can calculate distances.

and it doesnt take much time at all to launch attacks, specially with premium, so real life isint an issue either.

and as im sure most family tribes here know, using external forums helps organize tribes, as well as the use of IRC, TW on w1 uses IRC to organize alot, it's easier to be able to reply to someone in real time than to wait on IGMS and forum posts.
 

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callousstranger said:
nah no cheats needed, just a good spreadsheet that can calculate distances.

and it doesnt take much time at all to launch attacks, specially with premium, so real life isint an issue either.

and as im sure most family tribes here know, using external forums helps organize tribes, as well as the use of IRC, TW on w1 uses IRC to organize alot, it's easier to be able to reply to someone in real time than to wait on IGMS and forum posts.
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Yes it does take time...I did this and it takes you hours upon hours...unless of course you only have 10 villages...then yes you are correct.

The more villages you have...the longer it takes you.

I remember one person, in CEG now...I can't remember his name to be honest, though damn well organized attacks...launched on me 100 attacks, all landing within the same minute.

How do you do that?

Spreadsheet as you said...
Alarm clock set 100 times so that you can be online to launch every attack and fake at the right moment...
No job because that might interfere in the launch
No life because that might interfere in the launch.

Sorry but I have a wife, 4 kids, a house, 3 cars, 2 dogs, 2 cats, 2 birds, 2 lizards, 1 fish, a deck to build, a yard to mow, mail to pick up, bills to pay, a job to work, a house to clean, laundry to put away, dishes to wash, meals to cook, sleep (yes crazy I know), and countless other things to deal with. And yes I do check my villages once a day too.

If I set my alarm clock once to launch an attack on someone...my wife would divorce my sorry arse due to mental stability issues.

So if that makes us a joke to TW on W1? Hell launch away. Don't both me none.
 

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bolaar said:
Yes it does take time...I did this and it takes you hours upon hours...unless of course you only have 10 villages...then yes you are correct.

The more villages you have...the longer it takes you.

I remember one person, in CEG now...I can't remember his name to be honest, though damn well organized attacks...launched on me 100 attacks, all landing within the same minute.

How do you do that?

Spreadsheet as you said...
Alarm clock set 100 times so that you can be online to launch every attack and fake at the right moment...
No job because that might interfere in the launch
No life because that might interfere in the launch.

Sorry but I have a wife, 4 kids, a house, 3 cars, 2 dogs, 2 cats, 2 birds, 2 lizards, 1 fish, a deck to build, a yard to mow, mail to pick up, bills to pay, a job to work, a house to clean, laundry to put away, dishes to wash, meals to cook, sleep (yes crazy I know), and countless other things to deal with. And yes I do check my villages once a day too.

If I set my alarm clock once to launch an attack on someone...my wife would divorce my sorry arse due to mental stability issues.

So if that makes us a joke to TW on W1? Hell launch away. Don't both me none.
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i have a life with a wife, kids, dogs, house, bills to pay and all that as well, nothing new, as for having all those attacks landing within a minute of eachother from one person, i have no clue how to do that. but with a spreadsheet its possible to get everyone in a tribe to launch troops around the same time. sometimes within seconds if the players all hit thier mark.
 

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um.... what are you trying to prove??? You took out a player in a week+++ and a livluist is still alive for a while longer but he is still alive. but taking out players with 200k and less points is pathetic when you are using 3 or more people to attack them and it still takes a week or more.(even though i never got to be that big i am kind of new to game) but still you are not proving anything.
 

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LoL! Kind of like when XiG/ESL used 20 different people to attack me simultaneously behind enemy lines and then gloated about it like it was some magical feat 9,000,000 points could beat 450,000 in a week's time.

Shame you didn't wipe me out completely guys.
 

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callousstranger the thing is like this

when TW discovered .net they jumped at it...and they made a powerfull tribe...

but consider this...back then TW was the only tribe that had an edge over it's opponents...all his members were already a team...thus much better organization...not to mention the huge numbers of TW'ers that they were...back then no one had ever seen in theyr life a 700 members tribe...

they were able to keep theyr edge...and develop point advantages by the time the other tribes got organized...thus they won...

and get real callousstranger, your greatest war was against RoBaC...and i seriosly doubt that RoBaC was even half your size...they might have been ranked 1...but in w1 tribe ranking is truly the most useless thing there is...

but now w2 has experienced players too...has great team's of players well organized and willing to fight...TW wouldn't have any advantage over them...it would be just a head to head fight...and if you were to look at points only...i would say that TW would have a hell of a fight by just going against CEG...if they were to go against other tribes too...TW wouldn't stand a chance...:D
 

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andrexu2000 said:
callousstranger the thing is like this

when TW discovered .net they jumped at it...and they made a powerfull tribe...

but consider this...back then TW was the only tribe that had an edge over it's opponents...all his members were already a team...thus much better organization...not to mention the huge numbers of TW'ers that they were...back then no one had ever seen in theyr life a 700 members tribe...

they were able to keep theyr edge...and develop point advantages by the time the other tribes got organized...thus they won...

and get real callousstranger, your greatest war was against RoBaC...and i seriosly doubt that RoBaC was even half your size...they might have been ranked 1...but in w1 tribe ranking is truly the most useless thing there is...

but now w2 has experienced players too...has great team's of players well organized and willing to fight...TW wouldn't have any advantage over them...it would be just a head to head fight...and if you were to look at points only...i would say that TW would have a hell of a fight by just going against CEG...if they were to go against other tribes too...TW wouldn't stand a chance...:D
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well the idea has been proposed multiple times to combine Worlds 1 and 2, edge on edge since W1 is now closed for new regs, meaning nobody new can join the world, i for one would like to see this happen, no matter if TW got its ass handed to them or not it would be one hell of an epic time. no doubt.
 

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callousstranger said:
Flado - http://w1.twplus.org/index.php?tool=file&pid=16685

Angie - http://w1.twplus.org/index.php?tool=file&pid=12377&mode=conquer

few more, still looking for one of our overnighters though.
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Honestly, if that's the best World 1 can offer, then I'm unimpressed.

Those types of attacks were going on every day for four months during the last big war in World 2.

johnnybuz mentioned his own ordeal:

http://w2.twplus.org/index.php?tool=file&pid=51794&mode=conquer&page=7&col=all&player=all&min=&max=

but even that is only around 50 villages. There are players who lost more than a hundred villages:

http://w2.twplus.org/index.php?tool=file&pid=49327&mode=conquer&page=16&col=all&player=all&min=&max=

http://w2.twplus.org/index.php?tool=file&pid=69442&mode=conquer&page=9&col=all&player=all&min=&max=

http://w2.twplus.org/index.php?tool=file&pid=14185&mode=conquer&page=11&col=all&player=all&min=&max=

and it wasn't just a matter of good planning on offense. Many of these players actively defended against thousands of attacks and retook villages as the attacks were hitting, generally making things difficult and dragging the war out for weeks and months. A real battle isn't just organizing precisely timed attacks; it's also organizing precisely timed defenses and counter-attacks. Just consider 24 hours in the life of bolaar:

http://w2.twplus.org/index.php?tool=file&pid=43112&mode=conquer&page=7&col=all&player=all&min=&max=

The biggest players in W2 are bigger than the biggest players in W1, and the opponents defeated numbers in W2 are bigger. For sheer carnage, I think W2 has probably seen more than W1 at this point.
 

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And this relates to -CEG- attacking CAKE ... how?
As interesting as the information is, it has no relation to the subject at hand.

As for the topic, How are things going now. Is the situation intensifying or has it come down to a more subdued level?
 

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Carnivore said:
And this relates to -CEG- attacking CAKE ... how?
As interesting as the information is, it has no relation to the subject at hand.

As for the topic, How are things going now. Is the situation intensifying or has it come down to a more subdued level?
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We took about 15 villages back...there are probably 100 incoming to Ripfin and others. But they will not be pleased upon arrival.
 

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souds like you are going to hand out rice cakes to them instead of some real tasty pineapple upsidedown cake.....

I'd be a bit miffed too. I suppose you have three day old stale coffee to go along with the rice cakes too.
 
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Well old topic, old discussion that I never responded to evidently so will say what I can remember her:

1: would never "steal" a village from a tribe mate or ally
2: I would never attack an ally
3: my disagreement with WarHawg was we had way too many sat accounts, hell I was sitting 6 of them myself and told him we need to internal while we can or suffer later
4: Bolaar asked me to join him in CAKE and of course I did since well it was Bolaar the true TW God.
5: well at the time had thousands of incoming and pretty much lost count after a couple thousand, so I did the best I could.
6: Bolaar did send support but then he got word that he might be targetted and knowing I was screwed wasn't going to take him with me and sent his troops home, (in hind site big mistake and Bolaar chewwed me out for it).
7: I've been playing the Ripfin account I forgot how long I've been on it, my time as Asterios had ended then Ripfin came to me and said he is quitting the game and if I'd like his account to play, so I did and grew it more, and it was all legal at the time.
8: I still survived this and went on to play another year or so in world 2.

I've been gone a long time came back briefly to a whole new TW and even tried the US server (big mistake there too small and owned by the PP crowd). still debating if I want to play because I am old and retired and like having a life.
 
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