I don't even know why I keep on logging in
Let's see, at the time Raki attacked WB they were active and the other family members that helped were active as well. Also Ollie, you're nobling an account that the owner dumped on players because he saw incomings, congrats.
WB recruited BDR players that were in k78, k68, k69, k58, and k59. If you noticed the ones that were in enemy territories got destroyed, the only reason WB acquired K69 was because of recruitment. But we can not control accounts deleting due to incomings (ogre557). Now I had a mail in my notebook which was of lish telling MTS guys to keep nobling jann the man, an account that was in MTS, and he wanted to join WB. He was away from whenever the hell I accepted his account sit and left MTS to earlish december, during that time I had triten sit the account, and at first triten was doing fine sitting. Disgruntled members of drink left and formed a tribe called back in november, shortly after they warred WB hitting WB in home k's. That caused WB to withdraw support from ogre and jann, and caused players like triten to get busier. MTS saw that, and took the distraction as an advantage and pressed the guys in k69 and k59. majority of the bdr guys quit about then, ogre deleting shortly after. Ogre owned the southern half of k69 while jann owned the northern half. Seeing as most of WB's members closest location was k39 and a few villages in k59, it was hard to effectively noble ogre's villages which conveniently where located right nearby k78 a mts k and k79 which td and mts had presence. Also mts had been entering the k through a jann account which was running out of it's own defense. find it funny that even though the jann account basically had nothing, once the owner came back, mts struggled to take villages. Now he got deleted through a ban.
WB was limited in where it could grow due to diplomacy, not a hard concept to understand. Say we wanted to expand west, it was difficult because drink was in the way and we shared diplomacy, once again I would love for someone tell me what they would have done war wise with WB if they were in my position, funny how that keeps on getting avoided.
Also once more k69 did have drink members there, which by lish's words means that mts did focus there seeing as drink was the target.
If you punch someone that isn't looking is that fair? No, it's called a sucker punch which is cheap, WB did not choose where it was located, and to whoever the hell said we were rimmed first then restarted there, shut up. Most of the players there actually started there because they joined the world late, which also is why growth was restricted, I for one joined when PWO was chromosomes. my father joined months after that. starting late does have an effect on growth, not everyone in WB wanted to join drink and noble their inactives to get to 10k points wise. got off topic a bit, but yeah we had drink holding THEIR own fronts, not our fronts. Plus if we were hiding, it would be against panda? why? because for one you don't mess with a panda bear, but two because we didn't even really share any fronts with them, actually no they declared against us, I didn't even have them on the diplomacy list until after they declared. We shared warfronts with mts and ~L~ so stop complaining, and if you guys were actually able to push us out, you would have been able to make it to our homelands without drink mass deleting instead of us pushing deeper into k69, and ~L~ recruiting a crappy three year tribemate from world 17 thus causing the fall of k12 because d army couldn't have taken it and the rest of ~L~ were focused on k11 and k13 from what i remember..
Will end it here, if you don't agree then good for you, because what i say isn't going to make a difference to the minds of the superstars