kamarah, very good observation. At the time, It took about 10 minuets for STRH to declare, I still didn't know which way to organize the letters STRH at this time and called them the w/e tribe. I was a bit skeptical of the situation, but, as it turns out, STRH are even worse than I previously thought. They have had no coorded attacks on us at all. One of our members has received 80 fakes had 80 incomings, which at this stage is not half bad. You would have thought this would be a distraction? Nope, no real attacks ever followed, not even a hint of a nobel.. The stats for REL =STRH= LOCK vs Punch, would be 13-1 to Punch, of which the one village that was taken from us, we re-took and now hold again.