Cost of noble comparison

[DeletedUser4234]

I did a small spreadsheet to compare cost of nobles (1st 30) and academies between the old system (worlds 1-4) and the coin system (worlds 5 and 6).

1st set is if you build a new academy or upgrade an academy for each noble
2nd set is if you never build a level 3 academy (level 2 max)
3rd set is if you have one level 1 academy for each noble
4th set is for coin system - I only included the cost of 1 academy here as it is all that is needed, of course the cost goes up if you want to build more.

Not included in these costs are the pre-requirements to build an academy in each village (level 20 Barracks and Smithy and level 10 Market). If these were included it would favor the coin system as it needs far fewer academies in the long run.

 

[DeletedUser]

too complex for my small brain

 

[DeletedUser]

I did a small spreadsheet to compare cost of nobles (1st 30) and academies between the old system (worlds 1-4) and the coin system (worlds 5 and 6).

1st set is if you build a new academy or upgrade an academy for each noble
2nd set is if you never build a level 3 academy (level 2 max)
3rd set is if you have one level 1 academy for each noble
4th set is for coin system - I only included the cost of 1 academy here as it is all that is needed, of course the cost goes up if you want to build more.

Not included in these costs are the pre-requirements to build an academy in each village (level 20 Barracks and Smithy and level 10 Market). If these were included it would favor the coin system as it needs far fewer academies in the long run.

Very Nice! looks like it starts out being more expensive, but in the long run, it's cheaper in the new worlds.

 

[DeletedUser4596]

It's funny, some people complain this system promotes turtling because you produce nobleman at such a "slow" rate because they cost alot more due to the coins. Guess some people are wrong .

Thanks mrs.premise for the table, may I make a copy of it for personal use (I'll put a tag message on it with your name whenever I use it so don't worry about me calling it my own)?

 

[DeletedUser]

Didnt understand that... You only put costs for building of academy?


For the first noble at old system costs you 28/30k/25k while in the new system costs coin 28k/30k/25k plus the noble(dont remenber the price but is high)

The new system you spend the same as for a noble in the old for coins plus the cost of the nobleman so is expensive.

 

[DeletedUser4596]

Didnt understand that... You only put costs for building of academy?


For the first noble at old system costs you 28/30k/25k while in the new system costs coin 28k/30k/25k plus the noble(dont remenber the price but is high)

The new system you spend the same as for a noble in the old for coins plus the cost of the nobleman so is expensive.

In the first columne is if you only have level three academies.

Second is if you only have level 2 acedemies

Third is if you only had level one academies

Fourth is the new system. At first is is more expensive but by the 30th nobleman it is cheaper now. The extra cost of the first 29 is made up in I believe nobles 31 to either ~40 or ~45. At that point nobles have costed the same averaged out, after that the coins averaged are cheaper.

 

[DeletedUser]

In the first columne is if you only have level three academies.

Second is if you only have level 2 acedemies

Third is if you only had level one academies

Fourth is the new system. At first is is more expensive but by the 30th nobleman it is cheaper now. The extra cost of the first 29 is made up in I believe nobles 31 to either ~40 or ~45. At that point nobles have costed the same averaged out, after that the coins averaged are cheaper.

If a noble dies in attack you will rebuild it with 28k/30k/25k while in w5 it will cost more. The new system do costs more.

 

[DeletedUser]

Yes but if you lose a village in the new system you don't have to pay 100X packages for a noble down the line.

Hum... Thats promote turtling, losing a village wont get you bad?

 

[Deleted User - 3135]

If a noble dies in attack you will rebuild it with 28k/30k/25k while in w5 it will cost more. The new system do costs more.

yes i thought that too but its countered and over done by the fact that if u noble yourself by mistake you dont have to get loads of bundles again as you have the gold coins ready, you just have to pya the cost of the noble

 

[DeletedUser]

yes i thought that too but its countered and over done by the fact that if u noble yourself by mistake you dont have to get loads of bundles again as you have the gold coins ready, you just have to pya the cost of the noble

If you are stupid enough to noble yourself you shouldnt get an advantage, off course that sometimes you really get unlucky but the system should promote those that work harder.

 

[Deleted User - 3135]

If you are stupid enough to noble yourself you shouldnt get an advantage, off course that sometimes you really get unlucky but the system should promote those that work harder.

not really, if someone else lowers the loyalty... then you are going to noble yourself arent you

 

[DeletedUser]

not really, if someone else lowers the loyalty... then you are going to noble yourself arent you

Just mail people around it saying you are going to noble the village, it isnt so hard..

 

[DeletedUser4596]

Just mail people around it saying you are going to noble the village, it isnt so hard..

Yes but some people noble days away, let's say 50 squares away (a relatively low number), that's about 600-800 people (did some caculations to figure out how many villages and reduced because people would have more then one). How are you very going to mail all those feasible people, and even if you reduce it to immediate vincinity, how do you know someone else won't sneak a noble in there between yours to reduce loyalty and/or maybe send some support to ruin your attempt. Forgive me if I'm annoying you today lipe, and in an annoying mood today.

 

[DeletedUser]

Yes but some people noble days away, let's say 50 squares away (a relatively low number), that's about 600-800 people (did some caculations to figure out how many villages and reduced because people would have more then one). How are you very going to mail all those feasible people, and even if you reduce it to immediate vincinity, how do you know someone else won't sneak a noble in there between yours to reduce loyalty and/or maybe send some support to ruin your attempt. Forgive me if I'm annoying you today lipe, and in an annoying mood today.

How they will sneak a noble between your attacks if they dont know when your attack arrives?

 

[DeletedUser]

because there lucky abrutis

 

[DeletedUser]

I still prefer the old system, the only disadvantage was moving bundles and they changed it.

 

[Richard Lionheart XIII]

never got to train a noble in w5 since i decided it's too time consuming and quit. I'll have to wait and see in w6... Other than that i have no idea what you guys are talking about. (except from what i read in the announcments)

 

[DeletedUser]

never got to train a noble in w5 since i decided it's too time consuming and quit. I'll have to wait and see in w6... Other than that i have no idea what you guys are talking about. (except from what i read in the announcments)

While in w1-4 the nobles are built by bundles and each noble consume 1 more bundles.

In the w5-6 its by coins, the first noble requires 1 coins and the second 3.

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But instead of adding one adds the entire line. For each noble costs 40k/50k/50k.

 

[DeletedUser4596]

While in w1-4 the nobles are built by bundles and each noble consume 1 more bundles.

In the w5-6 its by coins, the first noble requires 1 coins and the second 3.

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But instead of adding one adds the entire line. For each noble costs 40k/50k/50k.

Think about it as the coins are packages and the nobleman are levels, that's how the cost translates. I've been doing some calculation and at moments one system is cheaper then the other and vice versa but in the long run it will all cost the same thing.

 

[DeletedUser]

Think about it as the coins are packages and the nobleman are levels, that's how the cost translates. I've been doing some calculation and at moments one system is cheaper then the other and vice versa but in the long run it will all cost the same thing.

I was thinking that, the coins up a lot faster than the costs of nobles but the costs of nobles in w1-4 increase a bit faster.

In the long run the new system will costs more because it increases much faster but it helps when you lose nobles or noble yourself.