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I'm tipping XVI to win this war, and for Active to blame activity are real life problems as the reason for their defeat (again)
Seen it happen before, so surely it is not that unlikely :icon_wink:
Since the begging of this war (taking it as being around a week ago) Active has shrunk over 5 mil points, highlighting a number of member losses.
XVI however in this period has grown.
The stats displayed may show XVI down Active up, but the genuine overall tribal picture is that Active is down, XVI is up.
Sorry to focus just on XVI/Active, but in all honesty LFAH/Ni are kind of the sideshow here. LFAH though are certainly earning some respect.
Seen it happen before, so surely it is not that unlikely :icon_wink:
Since the begging of this war (taking it as being around a week ago) Active has shrunk over 5 mil points, highlighting a number of member losses.
XVI however in this period has grown.
The stats displayed may show XVI down Active up, but the genuine overall tribal picture is that Active is down, XVI is up.
Sorry to focus just on XVI/Active, but in all honesty LFAH/Ni are kind of the sideshow here. LFAH though are certainly earning some respect.
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As amusing as this is,.
Active/Ni attacked us, without declaring war BTW, well over 10 days ago, not yesterday. Nice revisionism, Active!
The lovely graph dysentary posted has been vigorously massaged until it too is . Anyone who wants to get a true picture of how the war has gone for Active needs to do the following:
1) Place XVI and LFAH on one side (we prefer Side 1)
2) Place Active and Ni on the other side.
3) To Side 2, add the following:
- The tribe H-R, allies of Active's who have attacked us and are being dealt with
- The players noobish idiot, deiity, and ghostjapan. These are all players who were in Active when they attacked us but have been knocked out and booted from their tribe since. Their vills are now mostly ours, and they are war casualties, despite their erstwhile tribemates trying to sweep them under the rug.
- Unfortunately, the player King Jude has deleted and his lost vills won't show up in the chart. He too was in Active when they attacked us and his vills were lost to us. Maybe add in 30-40 kills to our side to account for us knocking him out (he had more vills but I'd guess that's what we took before he deleted).
4) Then set the time period to "Last Month," as it has been over a week since Active attacked us.
5) Notice that the actual net loss for Active is around 250 vills. Add in another 35 or so for King Jude's demise and they're down almost 300 vills. Not very close.
6) But, yes, if you drop off all the players from your tribe who've been getting their butts kicked, you can pretend that you're only 54 vills down, instead of the correct count of almost 300.
Reply away. I likely won't see them as I rarely waste my time in here. Someone pointed this thread out so I took a look, discovered the misinformation, and thought I'd at least attempt to correct it.
Have a nice day!
H-R are ACTIVE's allies? Since when. Your lovely spy should know that we aren't, shouldn't he?
You can put it how you want, noobish idiot quit, you can keep every village of his, we won't care. DEiity has quit, take him as well! Add them to the stats if you want, we'll add all the tribe less players we eat as well eh? King jude joined and went inactive, as soon as we kicked him he continued to lose villages. That is our fault, of course. Add to the stats if you wish, we don't mind your pathetic attempts at making the stats look bad.
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I thought you quit carlito?
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I'm guessing you're not dumb, so I assume you're being disingenuous here. Your tribe attacked ours, 10-15 days ago. Noobish, deiity, King Jude, and GhostJapan were all members of your tribe when you attacked us. Just because they've been driven from the game or from your tribe doesn't mean you can just pretend that they never existed and that they were never part of Active. We (XVI and LFAH) hammered them and they decided to leave Active or the game. They are war losses for you (and war gains for us).
I think you need to kick divim and pain.carbon soon so you can pretend their losses don't count either. :-D
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You guys didn't "Hammer" them. You may have hammed noobish after he quit, sure thats quite hard for you guys. King Jude just went inactive the day he joined and ghostjapan again was "hammered" after he quit. I tlak with deiity, he quit not because of incomings but because he needed a break in the game, notice how everyone lost villages AFTER they quit. Ah well, XVI and LFAH need easy targets because they can't noble anything else.
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War caps are war caps, inactive or whatever XVI is smart for taking them because they used to be Active villages and now they're XVI villages. IT happens in every war, people conveniently "quit" because of excuse like their dog at their laptop or theyre recycling their sandals when in reality they're quitting because they have incomings. It's all too convenient, so get over yourself Active and all of you quit again.
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I do not think you got the point, they did not quit because of incomings. King Jude basically quit before the war. Deiity did not lose any villages before he quit. Noobish idiot left the tribe, he wasnt even dismissed. So I really don't understand your point. You telling us to quit is just a bit uncalled for however, its a new tribe. I dont know, 28 members beating 100+ is pretty impressive if you ask me.
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There goes Active again making excuses. New members, new excuses. You aren't beating 100+, you need to include all the Active accounts to make it accurate. Regardless if they quit, they're still in your K's and were your accounts. If they were quitting why weren't they internalled? XVI is basicly gaining those accounts so that's smart on their part. Why wouldn't they noble easy targets? Make some more excuses, I'm sure pain.carbon is losing villages because someone blew up his computer
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Ok, I just been trolling this war thread for inspiration. And well done, you got most pointlessly useless post of the thread :icon_razz:
People who quit count as war caps, yeah, so what is your point? Last I checked, ACTIVE just declared. That to me suggests they aren't quitting. Those members who quit presumably were made aware of the war before it happened, as someone in the opposing tribe to ACTIVE seems to have posted here earlier saying that ACTIVE launched on XVI about 10 days ago. I don't know if this is or isn't true, but I am making the assumption that ACTIVE was made aware of the war before it began, otherwise the launch would have been a bit pointless. So yeah, they will all have expected return incomings, and so I fail to see how you can say their tribe is quitting because of it :icon_rolleyes:
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Add them to your make believe stats if you want to. Okay, they took villages from an account that no one is playing, bravo. People quit this game not just because of incomings, thats what you do not understand. It counts towards their total conquers but not total conquers against opposite side because they are not opposite side. So, kthxbai.
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In my opinion.
Active have massaged there stats.
Nobling Inactives is strategic you gain a foothold in your enemies territory do you not?
And if they have gone inactive, they should of been internalled.
Or at least the players who were going to quit have the good grace to tell there friends there quiting,
Seems a bit fishy all you Active are best of chums, but suddenly go inactive without telling your friends,
Or if you do tell your friends, shift a few troops around for an easy internal.
But on Active's point. H-R are a noobs tribe, they don't count in the war, nor will they ever count.
And nobling inactives do count towards war stats, But do not show the tribes competence.
I'm sure Valk is now going to hate me. But this is my opinion.
Active have massaged there stats.
Nobling Inactives is strategic you gain a foothold in your enemies territory do you not?
And if they have gone inactive, they should of been internalled.
Or at least the players who were going to quit have the good grace to tell there friends there quiting,
Seems a bit fishy all you Active are best of chums, but suddenly go inactive without telling your friends,
Or if you do tell your friends, shift a few troops around for an easy internal.
But on Active's point. H-R are a noobs tribe, they don't count in the war, nor will they ever count.
And nobling inactives do count towards war stats, But do not show the tribes competence.
I'm sure Valk is now going to hate me. But this is my opinion.
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Well if you were a part of this world and not trolling wou would know that pretty much all of the original Active (the ones who mattered anyway) all quit months ago. Then had new account owners of some original Active accounts to reform Active, which is why I said "Active Quit Again". Regardless if they knew or not or whatever, they were Active Accounts that are getting eaten by XVI, not Active. So XVI is getting a lot bigger while Active is getting a lot smaller. So go back to W46 Googly...ps...you know me.
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Who said I'm still playing W46? I need to talk to Valk but i have left that world (got gangbang catted there). So yeah, check your information.
I know W36 members as, if you have any brain at all (you are from W46 too as you say), you will understand that I am in a tribe with about 1/4 of DVADER. And through them, I know a lot about W36. If all of ACTIVE left, then if they weren't taken out that is the opposing tribe's fault for failing to take out a completely inactive tribe they were warring. You say ACTIVE quit, yet do you know exactly who plays which account there? Didn't think so. So really, you are assuming that ACTIVE quit without the means to back it up factually.
I never said they weren't ACTIVE accounts, did I? Seriously, you should check out Specsavers :icon_rolleyes:
If XVI and whatever other tribe ACTIVE are fighting can't take out the active players, and so instead just go for the inactive accounts, then they are incompetent as a tribe. The fact that ACTIVE would rather war than easy noble shows they actually know a little bit about this game.
Did I make that simple enough for ya mate? PS i don't think I know you :icon_redface:
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Most of Active left and went to Dice and XVI. Then Debs, Karl and Mikel got Active back together. XVI was hitting Active right around the time Celebreus apparently sold them out. Some went to XVI and some went to Dice, then those that went to Dice went to XVI. MvvM got banned, XVI began to take a plunge in activity and when those said players came back they reformed Active and 10 days ago began hitting XVI. Yes I do know people on those accounts, Joshii, Karl, Carlito before he quit, etc. I even hear Gosid has an account, Danny...so I do know something about the tribe and its players. And in regards to war caps, the inactive accounts do matter. They're still in Active territory. So why let the Active players of Active get those villages when XVI can scoop in and take them. And of the Active players that are being nobled, check out pain.carbon and see how he's holding up. XVI are eating ex-Active Inactive accounts and taking villages from players who are Active. Was that simple enough? And yeah you do know me.
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valk
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Dont take it off topic on to your love to gosid again. Idiot.
I think ACTIVE have been kicking to save stats IMO though.
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I think enough finger pointing and more proof please. If you're going to make a statement, back it up. At least it 'might' reduce the bickering just a tad. This is now reminding me of a schoolyard fight.
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Opinions are always nice to hear though.
I think weight of numbers will win the day for XVI & LFAH
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Side 1:
Tribes: XVI
Players:
Side 2:
Tribes: ACTIVE
Players:
Timeframe: Forever
Total conquers:
Side 1: 12,375
Side 2: 5,475
Difference: 6,900
Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 413
Side 2: 308
Difference: 105
Points value of total conquers:
Side 1: 101,359,737
Side 2: 44,163,567
Difference: 57,196,170
Points value of total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 3,936,117
Side 2: 2,920,209
Difference: 1,015,908
Clearly XVI are dominating the war overall and that's not including the accounts that in-ACTIVE have booted
Side 1:
Tribes: XVI
Players:
Side 2:
Tribes: ACTIVE
Players:
Timeframe: Last week
Total conquers:
Side 1: 293
Side 2: 160
Difference: 133
Total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 52
Side 2: 35
Difference: 17
Points value of total conquers:
Side 1: 2,577,400
Side 2: 1,437,290
Difference: 1,140,110
Points value of total conquers against opposite side:
Side 1: 486,297
Side 2: 333,860
Difference: 152,437
There, there's your proof and it's more than backed up. After Active dominated the beginning of their assault, XVI have clearly stabilized and now have the edge. Again, this is not including the accounts they kicked otherwise you could classify this war as a disaster for Active. Don't ask me to back it up and show you proof when you can do the research yourself. I'm not going to come on here and misrepresent myself with inaccuracy. Now ------------------------------------------> Door...USE IT.
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