Don't Touch Me There!

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Keep following the world and you'll discover who possesses the most intelligence with their decisions.

It'd be one thing if I was a refugee who jumped ship with 20 incoming attacks.

It's another when I had no incomings (other than some random fake from SVG) and *STILL* have defensive support in some of my PHORCE friends' villages and am still in touch with the current dukes.

But believe what you want, it's not worth the argument. Analyze my statements and try and lower my status, it will have no effect on me as a player. This concept of "cred" is a tad ridiculous anyway. What makes a tribe "credible"? Just because a tribe has players capable of exciting PNPs or whom are amazing at photoshop does not make their tribe credible. A tribe's credibility should be based on its overall sense of loyalty, teamwork, coordination, and self-respect. Which, in a sense, could be used to deprecate the credibility of PHORCE, but I do not sense any lack of credibility within the walls of Prey. This tribe heavily emphasizes all four of those qualities and will not tolerate anything less than full-on cooperation amongst all its members.

One player does not bring down the credibility of a tribe just because he made a past mistake. He brings down the credibility of a tribe if he's a whiny b*tch or if he refuses to cooperate on key operations. I am neither of those. Argue all you want but anyone who agrees that one player, when there is no proof of in-game incompetence as a player or as a tribemate (I will admit you can connote my incompetence, perhaps, as a duke, because of one or two mistakes I've made...But when it comes down to the respect I garnered and the loyalty of those whom have followed me into Prey and even of some of those who stayed behind, I feel I have succeeded as a leader) then there is no reason to believe a single person can bring down the credibility of an entire tribe.
 

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And your credibility has been thoroughly shot by your blustering, betraying and ultimately failing.
Loyalty; check.
Teamwork; check.
Coordination; check.
Self-respect... hmm, you may have some misplaced respect for your conduct, I'm not sure on this point. Apart from that, you check all the boxes for being non-credible. Way to go. :icon_wink:

I don't think it's 'a' past mistake, I think it's more of an attitude problem. You come here guns blazing, saying it will be 'over in days', being surprised that you weren't recognised (really?), citing that the only reason you haven't hit is because ops are 'in the works', and you were 'under prepared', and later that 'others were hitting you'... QQ more. Had you been even remotedly pleasant to deal with you wouldn't be taking anyone's credibility down (but your own), but from all the 'diplomatic' mails I've read, in addition to your prowess on these forums...

Well, let's just say PREY could have done better. I don't think you're a match for PREY's standards, or I guess they lowered the bar? Players 'followed' you into PREY because PREY is obviously a much better tribe than the crap you called PHORCE. When people say leaders should lead from the front, they don't mean when leaving he tribe... :icon_wink:
 

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I doubt that this means much about Prey's credibility.

Prey got off to a bit of a rough start after the merge plan failed, due to multiple other factors, chief among them shortcomings in the leadership by one of the dukes who quit and my own brief and unexpected absence.

However, Prey's credibility is not lowered by a member joining, nor multiple members joining. I've seen hundreds of players serve as terrifyingly terrible leaders, but that says nothing for their ability to both follow orders and learn. Call it a belief in "second chances" if you will, but Prey's credibility will be enforced by their future actions, not by the recruitment of a player who made poor or questionable leadership decisions. If this new player is not up to Prey standards, Prey will happily let him know.

PHORCE was never a tribe I saw living too long, despite my contact with them. The leader is smart, I give him that, but he was unable to effectively organize his players. To say that recruiting past enemies or questionable leaders to be regular ol' players is akin to saying that if a hammer doesn't work as a screwdriver, then it has lost its credibility and can no longer be used as a hammer.

The role of player is so far removed from the role of leader, that fewdesires' choices may have created a distrust between him and some other players, but the players that matter are the players in Prey, and if they don't care then neither should the rest of the world. Prey will conduct business as usual, and continue rebuilding and expanding as we have. Despite being beleaguered from the start of the world, CAN (which comprises most of the current Prey membership) has stuck together for large part and will continue to do so.

But by all means, if fewdesires joining gives you all some reason to cry foul or insist that Prey no longer has credibility, by all means do so. We'll prove our credibility based on our diplomatic actions in the future, as I said before :icon_biggrin:.
 

DeletedUser

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Eh, I've never betrayed my own tribe, least of all while duking, so I'm good. (handshake)
 

DeletedUser

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True enough, tis why I made sure to say only "partially" relevant. Still, a funny little tidbit to laugh about, no :icon_razz:?

Especially given he managed to somehow directly follow up my post, and I mod that world's forum. It's like...he's stalking me :icon_eek:!
 

DeletedUser93819

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u6s5l. said:
I doubt that this means much about Prey's credibility.

Prey got off to a bit of a rough start after the merge plan failed, due to multiple other factors, chief among them shortcomings in the leadership by one of the dukes who quit and my own brief and unexpected absence.

However, Prey's credibility is not lowered by a member joining, nor multiple members joining. I've seen hundreds of players serve as terrifyingly terrible leaders, but that says nothing for their ability to both follow orders and learn. Call it a belief in "second chances" if you will, but Prey's credibility will be enforced by their future actions, not by the recruitment of a player who made poor or questionable leadership decisions. If this new player is not up to Prey standards, Prey will happily let him know.

PHORCE was never a tribe I saw living too long, despite my contact with them. The leader is smart, I give him that, but he was unable to effectively organize his players. To say that recruiting past enemies or questionable leaders to be regular ol' players is akin to saying that if a hammer doesn't work as a screwdriver, then it has lost its credibility and can no longer be used as a hammer.

The role of player is so far removed from the role of leader, that fewdesires' choices may have created a distrust between him and some other players, but the players that matter are the players in Prey, and if they don't care then neither should the rest of the world. Prey will conduct business as usual, and continue rebuilding and expanding as we have. Despite being beleaguered from the start of the world, CAN (which comprises most of the current Prey membership) has stuck together for large part and will continue to do so.

But by all means, if fewdesires joining gives you all some reason to cry foul or insist that Prey no longer has credibility, by all means do so. We'll prove our credibility based on our diplomatic actions in the future, as I said before :icon_biggrin:.
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haha, dont tell me.. you were offline for a very short period of time when you got nobled and you like bbq's round at fews house on the weekends also :lol:

the hammer stuff.. well i cant touch that :icon_wink:

i'd put money on few having some privs in your tribe though.. lol you better not make him a co-duke though eh :icon_razz:

to me it looks like the truth of the matter is few hemmed himself in thru early mass recruitment and poor desisions and being a turtle.. a LOT of his tribemates were way more active/aggresive than him and grew faster and started to expand and limit his farming even more.. so he came up with the war plan to selfishly ease his situation.. but a better offer came along called PREY and few saw the easy option and could'nt resist it.. few in truth has been played by PREY and wont last long in reality...

...and anyway ima noble him soon :)
 

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Turbulant Past said:
haha, dont tell me.. you were offline for a very short period of time when you got nobled and you like bbq's round at fews house on the weekends also :lol:
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Not quite, we prefer to have the barbecues at my house because it has a more spacious backyard, though the interior really can't compare to his. Still, it's a nice place y'know?

the hammer stuff.. well i cant touch that :icon_wink:

i'd put money on few having some privs in your tribe though.. lol you better not make him a co-duke though eh :icon_razz:
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Not to worry, there is no such thing as a co-duke. Humbletree is really a multi-account of mine, and I run both his and my accounts. I'm the sole duke, I just use humbletree as a front to give the idea of "fair" and "balanced" ideas being put forward and approved by both of us.

Whoops, did I say that :icon_redface:?

to me it looks like the truth of the matter is few hemmed himself in thru early mass recruitment and poor desisions and being a turtle.. a LOT of his tribemates were way more active/aggresive than him and grew faster and started to expand and limit his farming even more.. so he came up with the war plan to selfishly ease his situation.. but a better offer came along called PREY and few saw the easy option and could'nt resist it.. few in truth has been played by PREY and wont last long in reality...

...and anyway ima noble him soon :)
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We'll see what happens to fewdesires, but his members are with us and we expect the same loyalty from them as any other leader does. Fortunately, Prey is now extra-sensitive to ensuring everyone in a tribe is happy with the leadership, so you can expect to see the same loyalty we expect to see :icon_wink:.

What can I say, things come up and we move on. That's how it's always been up in the NE, and that's how it'll always be :icon_wink:.
 

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This is why u6 is my new Norman. :O

Nonetheless, I turtled for the sake of my tribe, building up defensive troops to spread support out to my fellow PHORCE members while still having defensive troops for myself. I explained to the tribe, though perhaps this logic possesses flaws, that I focused on a defensive village as my first village for the sake of the tribe, because I find defensive support harder to come by early on in the game. I figured if someone were to stunt their own growth it should be the leader, because his value to the tribe is more in his ability to keep the tribe motivated and functioning properly, not upon his playing ability necessarily.

Nonetheless, I've pledged my loyalty to Prey and have no "leadership function" within the tribe and am fine with that. Former PHORCE players now in Prey still pledge their allegiance to me and I feel that says something about myself as a leader... Despite this, I will not toot my own horn and say I'm an amazing leader. I'm far from it. But for someone who hadn't played tribal wars in four years who decided to return and just randomly make a tribe with three real life friends, you have to admit, PHORCE was decently successful. I say decently because it didn't last all that long and with the exception of intimidating two tribes into disbanding, was never necessarily successful in direct conflict with another tribe, but we still managed to work together defensively at times and put pressure on larger tribes to stop attacking us. My diplomacy also helped us grow without worry of any other tribes attacking us and we avoided war when several minor allies of ours fought each other.

I've already admitted quasi-selfish motives in my decision, but apparently my admittance of flaw is not enough for you. I am human, I am flawed. But I'm intelligent and can say I know what I'm doing.

Personally noble me, I dare you. I'll feel bad for all the resources you'll have wasted, but I'd love to see you attempt to noble me nonetheless. :) It'll be fun to watch. I've got popcorn at the ready for this spectacle. ^_^
 

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If you had 3 RL friends with you, it boggles the mind how quickly you gave up on it. Did you know FiG was founded by players who haven't played for years, are RL friends, and randomly decided to make a tribe? The difference: they didn't give up when the going got tough. You're human and thus flawed, but saying that is just one more excuse, 'anyone could've done it'. That is not the case. I trust my leaders not to pull such a move.

You're in the middle of nowhere and don't have an attractive village to boot. Why on earth would anyone want to noble you? :lol:
 

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fewdesires said:
FiG has put their fingers in places they don't belong, attempting to touch the very heart of the Phantom Oracle.
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This violation has led us to feel unsavory towards these fingers. We're thinking of biting each finger off individually, but are willing to take recommendations on the best way to remove fingers, especially when they choose to join together in a gang.
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We believe we have the hand better dealt in this situation, and that fingers don't stand a chance against an army of full-formed bodies guided by an Oracle, but we'll give them the benefit of the doubt and let them give us two thumbs down if they ever choose to surrender.
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(In human terms: One of their members whom we've already had not-so-positive interactions with in the past nobled my co-duke while he was offline for a very short period of time and FiG had the option of kicking said hostile member or having to deal with a full-fledged war. I made one misstep in a mail I sent out of frustration and anger, but nonetheless, I wish FiG the best of luck and hope the best tribe will win, be it whichever side)

~ few

(I stupidly attempted to format the war declaration like this too and that of course didn't work... So ignore that ignorance. o.o)
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so whats happening with this now? any updates?
 

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Wait, you still want to know about this war? Let me tell you how it went:

Rank Tribe name Points Villages
1 Prey 335.294 80
2 FiG 139.573 32
5 PHORCE 97.614 38

Oh well, looks like the players who deserved a home have gotten one so far in Prey, and we're more than happy to work with them to make their villages be put to better use :icon_wink:.
 

DeletedUser93819

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so you did'nt get to rank 1 on the K by winning a war, but by merging?

well done :icon_eek:
 

DeletedUser

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CAN, before the merge, was already rank 1. But if you'd like to make other uneducated assumptions in an attempt to tear Prey down externally, feel free to do so :icon_eek:.
 

DeletedUser93819

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u6s5l. said:
CAN, before the merge, was already rank 1. But if you'd like to make other uneducated assumptions in an attempt to tear Prey down externally, feel free to do so :icon_eek:.
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its not like YOU make it hard to do so eh :icon_eek:

but to clarify.. i asked for an update on "the war" and you gave me the current K rankings.. which was'nt really any sort of update now was it becuase i and everyone else following this sad thread dont know what the rankings were before teh merge.

but basically if there is NO war going on and you guys are never gonna post anything note worthy in this thread, i suggest the mod does his job properly and closes this thread becuase it has no relavance now to the original war declaration :icon_rolleyes:
 
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