Drama Wars - The GOATs Awaken

[Angel of Fire]

Xancrazy I was never told by Angel Of Fire anything about you. I think you've been lied to honestly.

Yeah i was trying to save him the whole time but he listens to Hilary's lies

 

[minicorndog]

Lol we all watched what happened. Some crap Blood player started getting hit and tried running to save himself. This made people mad. I don't know how any of that equates to Jake lying? lol

Angel, crying wolf about another person lying here. Get's really old really quick. Especially considering this person just prolonged your tribes pathetic life. If Freak hadn't split you'd be gone already.

#RIP Blood #Rekt #LetFreakbeFreaks #K44BestK #NAMSucks

 

[DeletedUser100466]

Socialism kills everything like a plague?

Is it socialism that sends third world countries into turmoil? Is it socialism that sends one in three adults in the UK into poverty, and 1 in four children? It's capitalism that does that son. This idea of certain people in society not working hard enough is an idea pushed WAY out of proportion by the mass media, who have fooled you.. Go see the world through a more pure lense, and I say the same to anyone else that agrees with rathisamar.

Good game though isn't it, Tribalwars!!

Socialism is a curse and so is pure capitalism and both have there pros and cons. I always like mixed system which provide better efficiency but that's just my own opinion and not a statement.

So you would rather want a 200k account grow to 240k then a strong player on a 40k account grow to 80k and now they are kinda back in the game. If the reason for small growth is inactivity they will get booted and force internaled. If its other reasons like bonfire etc. Then we will help them on their feet and thats how tribes should work instead of just internalling and recruiting new people.
No one betrayed no one left behind unless they did not follow orders or where inactive. Is how we worked

The thing is mate i don't care about points but efforts and if you want to help the 40 K guy then you can nuke for him or other can nuke for him as a friend but it can't be dictated to other account to help him/her.

Rule must apply same to all even to a 20 k account or to 300 k account. Socialism has same problem as it kills any creativity and people stop trying to put too much effort as they will think why they put so much effort and time while other reap benefits of their hard work.


However i am not saying this is the correct method but in my opinion if you want to be successful as a organization then you have to reward the hard working people rather than to punish and trying to equitlize the whole organization.

 

[DeletedUser115558]

Hi, This has been my first world and it has been fun, i gave my account to a friend so its not me playing from now on, this game gets stressful after a while i dont know how you guys do it

"Send Xancrazy support to safeguard his most isolated villages. What do I get in return? Xancrazy reveals all my 'plans' to Baldur, and hangs me out to dry"

This is Hilary's Quote, i have nothing invested in this anymore, i dont actually own the account anymore i gave it away, so i can give you guys the whole truth with as little bias as i can manage :]

story goes:

-in blood, they fighting 4 wars and im basically fighting Freak on my own

-Hilary knows my coplayer so starts using his friends in Freak to give me info on thier OP's their support and even their snipes so i can anti snipe, at one point one of his spies got the sitter for the player i was nobling (spawhawk) , he screenshotted all the villages troops for me and helped me figure out what to target


some hopefully valid proof:
https://i.gyazo.com/f1cd1a6213b32697c9a009360544d228.png support on village
https://i.gyazo.com/35329402bfe34b10a13c667266d5eedf.png support on village
https://i.gyazo.com/2415d6f4b65f41e13f98f7a051a46103.png all spawhawks troops from sitter
https://i.gyazo.com/21afdcb762bed53d7828c8c12a1fe83c.png all incomings from sitter


-Golden One got sniped but thanks to this info a friendly player nearby landed an anti snipe (some random player nearby no one relevent or in a tribe that was in the war but hey if you see this mr anonymous ty for the help :d)

-He told me about the OP on 3 of my villages, i stacked them all using Blood but still lost a village and almost all my support, Blood sent more but i was told they were going to OP all my my villages (by Hilary who i trusted)
https://i.gyazo.com/517102b3c8f5e3b026682d07d238895e.png noble claims on the vils in the op

-Left Blood because i cba fighting the losing fight, at the time it was basically me vs Freak and Hilary told me that Angel of Fire had been telling Sinful Angel that he had an OP planned and didnt care if i lost all my villages. (after praising me through internal mail and telling me any help i needed would be granted (then not reading any of my responding mail asking for help for the next 48 hours)


-Since my duke didnt care about me i left Blood (i was tempted to leave Blood already because Angel Of Fire is abit of a hothead but had no real valid reason to leave so i tried to rally with them and carry the war) , Hilary gave me an invite to YASSS which i assumed meant Freak would back off

-Hilary told me YASSS had no affiliation with Freak and the OP on my head was still active, i said i wanted to join Freak temporarily to save myself short term then join Hilary because he had helped me so i owed him one, he replied with this:
http://prntscr.com/8ze4xj

-Its either a threat or a warning but we were friends and i was literally in complete allegiance to him when he typed that out.

-I didnt need to tell Baldur any of Hilary's plans to get into Freak, and i didnt, Baldur knew Hilary had spies and knew Hilary was going to try to get them to leave to join him, he told me so himself and all i did was not deny it, maybe thats enough to be considered giving away all his secrets and if so then my mistake lol.
-I showed Baldur the threat, i told him it was because i said to Hilary that i would join Freak till the OP stops then rejoin YASSS, and i showed him this which was how Hilary reacted to me telling him i was joining Freak but still wanted to be friends.
http://prntscr.com/8yac9n

-Next day Hilary joins Freak at about 14:00, then leaves Freak at 21:00 and about 8 more leave with him.

-Im a traitor and not to be trusted and he wants to take my vils.

I think the guy who i gave my account to is giving Hilary 4 vils because 4 are named Sparks, dont know for sure though, what i do know is that Hilary sent a nobletrain at one of my vils and i sent 1.5k HC to snipe it from a random village in my core.

Anyway im happy with how i did, i grew faster and was stronger than plenty of veterans, mostly on intuition and math. I have to say though, i dont like the idea of noble trains, when i took my vils i just sent a noble in a nuke from 4 different villages, and seperated them by a few minutes so i could withdraw incase of prenobles, if Hilary had done that to me he wouldve taken the village easily, especially since my coplayer didnt turn up and i had the noble train tagged as swords, he didnt send any fake trains thank god.
He says he has won more worlds than any player in Freak combined but plays a little bit sloppy, oh well maybe it was his coplayer who sent the train and not him, anyway this game is pretty stressful but thanks for the fun i might play over summer after my course finishes with some coplayers who perhaps can do the PnP for me because im not very good at it

p.s, im a new player try not to hate some of us arent as good as others at dealing with internet abuse ^^

edit-
everyone who lost a nuke was given a free village as payment, 1 nuke for a free 8k village.


The xancrazy OP had started on the southern villages, and as part of the invite to Freak i agreed to give them all away in good faith, i skyped with the players who lost nukes and they were all really i happy i was giving them a free village instead of defending it, everybody won. Not to mention the fact that Hilary had sent lots of support to those villages to make sure if i hadnt joined Freak the op in the south wouldve failed, so Hilary was indirectly fighting those who had 'lost nukes', dont think he cares about them.
Other than that the OP wasnt in full swing, it hadnt started apart from those 3 vils, and all 3 were given away for free as a courtesy, something i was told i didnt have to do, Baldur said he would appreciate it if i gave them away and i did.
Ive always been loyal to friends, even though i wanted to leave Blood for a while i didnt until the duke betrayed me, its just a moral standard.

TL;DR There are a lot of small white lies coated with bias exaggerations of the events that took place throughout the first post, "I stay loyal to my friends" no you dont, you threaten them when they aren't doing what you want, then when they do it anyway you tell them you dont respect them anymore stop communicating with them all together lie about them on externals and send poorly executed noble trains at them...
fortunately i haven't had to lie to anyone yet. Call me out on anything, show screenshots of anything ive written and ask for an explanation and context, i never deceived anyone or made promises i wouldnt keep.
Hilary is just a manipulative liar.

 

[Deleted User - 10618707]

Eled had been away and sat for most of the world but is a great player that i would like to get back into the game since his return. There is a difference in that and a person being inactive.

Umm No. Inactivity, simple means not active, irrespective of the quality of player. If he was sat for most of the world, then he was simply inactive, internals shouldn't be granted because you are inactive.

Baldur says this has nothing to do with favourtism then goes on to say he rather give x player because he is a good player...That is favoutism.

I mean if I could be inactive, and be gifted with internals...why not do it. Like I said previously, everyone should have to operate under the same parameters and restrictions, not leaving it up to you to gift villages to your inactive friends then trying to justify it. What else did you expect would result from that type of thinking...sigh.

 

[minicorndog]

Eled had been away and sat for most of the world but is a great player that i would like to get back into the game since his return. There is a difference in that and a person being inactive.

'you're bad and you should feel bad' - Quote from one of my tribemates on Skype about this.

 

[DeletedUser116125]

Umm No. Inactivity, simple means not active, irrespective of the quality of player. If he was sat for most of the world, then he was simply inactive, internals shouldn't be granted because you are inactive.

Baldur says this has nothing to do with favourtism then goes on to say he rather give x player because he is a good player...That is favoutism.

I mean if I could be inactive, and be gifted with internals...why not do it. Like I said previously, everyone should have to operate under the same parameters and restrictions, not leaving it up to you to gift villages to your inactive friends then trying to justify it. What else did you expect would result from that type of thinking...sigh.

Eled was away as in couldnt play tribalwars due to IRL problems. If he comes back it would be in full activity

Also you guys seem to misunderstand the system. Its handed out in the TRIBES best interest. If a player wants to think of himself as greater then the tribe I would not want him in the tribe.
The tribe is a group and all actions made by every member should be to help the tribe as much as they can instead of them selves.
You might say that isnt possible due to greed of players. But thats why i respect @night so much from w75 thats exactly how they played.
Not caring about pissing people off just everyone doing whats the best for the trine as a whole.

 

[Mithrae]

My prediction for GOAT: once most accounts get big enough, they'll merge top 25% of tribe into a nearby tribe with better leadership and eat their ex tribemates. I've seen it too many times, it's always the same. Predictable.

Um... prediction? The opening post acknowledges that they had already planned something similar in their merge talks with Freak. They then did exactly that, albeit under unfavourable circumstances as victims of backstabbing (rather than sticking together and fighting their betrayers, against the odds). They then attempted to do it yet again; sabotaging Freak as soon as its leadership failed, grabbing a couple of recruits with the promise of a new home, but then telling further applicants to attack remaining Freak members and commencing their own cannibalism in the chaos.

You're undoubtedly right, but it's not so much a prediction as an observation :lol:

 

[DeletedUser115558]

Eled was away as in couldnt play tribalwars due to IRL problems. If he comes back it would be in full activity

Also you guys seem to misunderstand the system. Its handed out in the TRIBES best interest. If a player wants to think of himself as greater then the tribe I would not want him in the tribe.
The tribe is a group and all actions made by every member should be to help the tribe as much as they can instead of them selves.
You might say that isnt possible due to greed of players. But thats why i respect @night so much from w75 thats exactly how they played.
Not caring about pissing people off just everyone doing whats the best for the trine as a whole.

Agreed, But we can't overlook the reasons which raised and so we discussing.

 

[DeletedUser118447]

Socialism kills everything like a plague?

Is it socialism that sends third world countries into turmoil? Is it socialism that sends one in three adults in the UK into poverty, and 1 in four children? It's capitalism that does that son. This idea of certain people in society not working hard enough is an idea pushed WAY out of proportion by the mass media, who have fooled you.. Go see the world through a more pure lense, and I say the same to anyone else that agrees with rathisamar.

Good game though isn't it, Tribalwars!!

I Love You

 

[atmospherecf]

shit man,, nice pp..

 

[Deleted User - 10618707]

Eled was away as in couldnt play tribalwars due to IRL problems. If he comes back it would be in full activity

Also you guys seem to misunderstand the system. Its handed out in the TRIBES best interest. If a player wants to think of himself as greater then the tribe I would not want him in the tribe.
The tribe is a group and all actions made by every member should be to help the tribe as much as they can instead of them selves.
You might say that isnt possible due to greed of players. But thats why i respect @night so much from w75 thats exactly how they played.
Not caring about pissing people off just everyone doing whats the best for the trine as a whole.

You still haven't addressed any of the points I've made, the point is, you gave them to eled because you favoured him getting over HD, while you said everything is done in the Tribe's Best Interest, but gifting a player for being inactive isn't in the tribe's best interest, even if there were legitimate reasons for doing so.

On a completely different note, @Night was sad on w75, if you modeled Freak from their play style, its no wonder your tribe is in shambles.

 

[DeletedUser]

Eled was away as in couldnt play tribalwars due to IRL problems. If he comes back it would be in full activity

If? I guess I can't blame the tribe for second guessing your decision on this one; giving internals to a sat account, and then saying "If he comes back".

Here's something I learned a long time ago. Just because someone is awesome on 1 world does not necessarily mean they will be awesome in another. Maybe they don't have the same time they had at one point. Or the same passion, or the same co player. In a previous world, I had the honor of getting to play with some known good players. And as I watched them get nobled off at 1 village because they were inactive, or got frustrated because they wouldn't participate in an op because they had low morale, I decided then and there never to judge a person on their prior achievements; that all that mattered was the present and the here and now.

I actually dismissed the rank 1 player in the world once because he was a greedy, selfish, useless player, only concerned with his rank. During an op, he refused to even send fakes and instead merged up an internal player i was saving as a reward for the people doing the op. So yes, I dismissed him. Tribe > Self.

 

[roman01]

I mean if I could be inactive, and be gifted with internals...why not do it.

You're doing a good job between takes :icon_wink:

 

[Deleted User - 10618707]

Yeah, I think I did awesome with those internals tbh. Yum Yum

Have to get em before styxy does.

 

[minicorndog]

Eled was away as in couldnt play tribalwars due to IRL problems. If he comes back it would be in full activity

Also you guys seem to misunderstand the system. Its handed out in the TRIBES best interest. If a player wants to think of himself as greater then the tribe I would not want him in the tribe.
The tribe is a group and all actions made by every member should be to help the tribe as much as they can instead of them selves.
You might say that isnt possible due to greed of players. But thats why i respect @night so much from w75 thats exactly how they played.
Not caring about pissing people off just everyone doing whats the best for the trine as a whole.

And you seem to not understand that if you honestly think it was best for the tribe you're an idiot.

 

[xancrazy]

you sure about that?

well i actually played for 2 weeks on the rim of a speed 1 server where i could farm before i joined w83, i also played for abit 9 years ago when i was 11, but was useless had no idea what i was doing and had to be at school all day.

so yeah im calling this my first server attempt, ive thought about playing again in the summer but i want to have free time so i think im just not going to play this game anymore, its mainly the stress that i cant handle, im very bad at dealing with stress as a person in particular. Best luck to everyone who continues to play this awesome game

 

[DeletedUser116125]

If? I guess I can't blame the tribe for second guessing your decision on this one; giving internals to a sat account, and then saying "If he comes back".

Here's something I learned a long time ago. Just because someone is awesome on 1 world does not necessarily mean they will be awesome in another. Maybe they don't have the same time they had at one point. Or the same passion, or the same co player. In a previous world, I had the honor of getting to play with some known good players. And as I watched them get nobled off at 1 village because they were inactive, or got frustrated because they wouldn't participate in an op because they had low morale, I decided then and there never to judge a person on their prior achievements; that all that mattered was the present and the here and now.

I actually dismissed the rank 1 player in the world once because he was a greedy, selfish, useless player, only concerned with his rank. During an op, he refused to even send fakes and instead merged up an internal player i was saving as a reward for the people doing the op. So yes, I dismissed him. Tribe > Self.

Eled went away and told us he was going awa,. Said he would return at a date to Greg I don't really know it but Lux and hillary did.
I have known eled for quite a while, Enemies, Allies, Same tribe. I know he is a good player and always has done whats best for the tribe instead of himself. I have Eled is not a "big" player he is the kind of player I like the teamplayer that sits other accounts as much as he can for his tribe and usually is loyal to it to death ( Talking about Mike ).

The reason i said IF was that some people say they are going away and are going to return but don't return hoping people forget about him^^
But that doesn't change the fact. Hillary had 14+ nukes and 4+ bashers in his basher tribe. HE DOESN'T NEED INTERNALS....
Even on a sat account the villages where better in eleds hands.
Lower moral on the nukes. Was stuck and not able to grow unless someone nuked for him.

And ofc let's not forget Perro and Hillary merged mid war. Wasted 7 nobles on free villages instead of the enemy. While nukes sat home.

Also Hillary account broke idk how many rules us only asking for 2 out of the 7 is a feast for that account.

 

[Deleted User - 10618707]

well i actually played for 2 weeks on the rim of a speed 1 server where i could farm before i joined w83, i also played for abit 9 years ago when i was 11, but was useless had no idea what i was doing and had to be at school all day.

so yeah im calling this my first server attempt, ive thought about playing again in the summer but i want to have free time so i think im just not going to play this game anymore, its mainly the stress that i cant handle, im very bad at dealing with stress as a person in particular. Best luck to everyone who continues to play this awesome game

At least the uselessness hasn't change.

 

[DeletedUser116125]

Umm No. Inactivity, simple means not active, irrespective of the quality of player. If he was sat for most of the world, then he was simply inactive, internals shouldn't be granted because you are inactive.

He was in another country on a trip that he told us about before he went. If you are inactive without reasoning you will be force internalled as we have no use for you in the tribe when we feel like it. There where more players in the area that could take internals but they didn't really deserve any internals thats why eled was supposed to get both.

Baldur says this has nothing to do with favourtism then goes on to say he rather give x player because he is a good player...That is favoutism.

Do you have a brain? Have you read what I said? I know hillary is a good player on par or better then eled. BUT he doesn't need the villages eled does that is the difference. Do you really think the rank 3 account in the world at the time with 14-16 nukes at 20 villages. With more then 4 bashers can't get villages that aren't free internals?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? This was also mid war so basically the rank 3 account rather wanted to stop fighting and rather as soon as the war started go and merge.
It also says all merger must be approved by council. It wasn't they did it without contacting us knowing that we would not allow it mid war lol,

I mean if I could be inactive, and be gifted with internals...why not do it. Like I said previously, everyone should have to operate under the same parameters and restrictions, not leaving it up to you to gift villages to your inactive friends then trying to justify it. What else did you expect would result from that type of thinking...sigh

If you are inactive in most situations you will get force internalled,
And no, No one should operate under same parameters and restrictions, That's like you walking down a street and have 100$ that you have nothing to do with. Do you give it to the homeless guy in terrable clothing sitting on the street, Do you give it to the kid that you hear crying as their parents can't afford to get him into school. Or do you give it to the guy walking past you that is wearing a suit and tie? Would you give each 33.33$ and treat everyone equally or would you help the people that need help instead of the guy that can handle himself?

You still haven't addressed any of the points I've made, the point is, you gave them to eled because you favoured him getting over HD, while you said everything is done in the Tribe's Best Interest, but gifting a player for being inactive isn't in the tribe's best interest, even if there were legitimate reasons for doing so.

IF there are legitimate reasons for doing so in the tribes best interest how is it not in the tribes best interest?
If you don't see how trying to help eled into becoming a strong account and the stepping stone being those 2 inernals, instead of the account being useless for the tribe. Or ofc we could get hillary to take 2 villages for free that he could take either way pretty easy just attacking Blood.

On a completely different note, @Night was sad on w75, if you modeled Freak from their play style, its no wonder your tribe is in shambles.

Still salty over getting rekt on w75?
I wasn't leading so i can't model a tribe after it @night and even if I wanted I pretty much think no other leader could pull his style. But it was the best leadership i have been under and leading a tribe like he did is something most leaders would think as impossible

#GetRektNub #@night4life