I guess spyker isnt a decent tribe eh? Yes you have to include your allies. Its not Obey's fault you added defy to your side of the war. Sorry you dont like to see facts. I'd advise you stop reading my posts to avoid further traumatization.Oh yeah bud, real nice to include Defy. Let me just.. add all these rim tribes we nobled... Sweet +1,000,000 caps.
You guys can't defend your players against any decent tribe. Tuda alone destroyed you guys. Like I said before, stop typing so much and go send defense!