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kirkthewineman

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"Back in the in W20-30 I tried leading a tribe a few times. While people usually stuck with me, we never got anywhere. I was bad at the diplomatic stuff and failed to secure good relationships for my tribes. I've never tried to lead a tribe since and leave it to those who are better at it. I've done plenty of real world leadership (including running a staff of 40-60 people for a few years), but TW is very different from that."

Do not think i dont have the same if not more background in management than you have quoted. and TW is very different. quoting me as worst leader ever is a bit harsh to say the least. i simply do not like EGO players who care not what tribe they are in as long as their account grows. i do not run pre mades. but what tribes i do duke 99% of the time reach top 6. and its always fun and enjoyment until recruited from. APEX for instance went down to 3 members yet back to number 7 tribe. weve been fighting obey continually.. we have good stats per ratio.. we have good friends. all tribe members are happy and active. so what should i be listening to you for? go keep your comments and play your type of game. i will play mine..
and im a firm believer in love your friends and respect but hate your enemies. unless your in HR dept RL :)
 

RealFrankUnderwood

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I don't want to be the guy that re-derails a thread, but I'd rather that than run away from anything. I'm sorry for bringing this up again, but I've been pretty busy since Wednesday sleeping, working, seeing family and yet again sleeping.

Lets be honest, you claimed you were asking for a fight all world and Obey, which I believe had been largely ignoring you, decided to take you out. Shout out I guess to the guys who attacked you, it took them only one day from the land time to put you down though I question how much of an accomplishment that was. From the little "fight" you gave, a large proportion of it was done by sitters and players from other worlds, not yourself or your coplayers and from what I have heard at least, you attacked and abused your own tribemates causing them to go against you.

I guess if you wanted to embarrass yourself in front of the world, then congrats you have done it. You talked the game and now you have shown you have no game. That's all there is to it and how people should remember Noobey by.

I agree with you completely about there being nothing wrong with the half the tribe hitting us. I'd have done the same and I think anybody who sees it differently is naive.

The message above though, that's ridiculous.

Let's start with the tribemate comment. Firstly, that's directed entirely at me whether you knew that or not. Everybody loves Laura.

Gear blamed and hated me but loved Laura, despite her being the one who'd had enough of his BS and kicked him. I always knew what he was going to be like, so it didn't bother me so much when he was. The only abuse in that relationship was from me towards Gear, before he joined the tribe, and then from Gear towards tribemates shortly before Laura kicked him. We didn't attack him for half a week after kicking him, during which time we turned down a NAP offer from him.

As for Andrey of the LORD 0F WAR account. He was a **** from day one. I put up with (incredibly well by my own low standards on this) his idiocy for ages, but one day he went way over the line with his disrespect, so I told him to only talk to me with regards to ig matters from then on. He went around telling everybody he had apologized, even though that was a straight up lie, then he left the tribe a day later. He is an egotistical idiot who always thinks he knows what he's talking about, even when he hasn't got the slightest clue. He takes corrections really personally because he has a patheticly huge ego that can't handle it. He hated me long before I said a bad word to him LOL. If you're either an idiot, or just somebody who's happy to have somebody talk BS in yours chats all day you'll probably get along with this guy just fine. Ultimately he was disrespectful, then left the tribe of his own accord, still stating repeatedly how he was on our side and would always be, then attacked us with zero warning, even after seeing us time and time again demonstrate how we'd never consider doing the same to him or anybody else.

This whole concept you keep throwing around about "one day" is misleading. You know we'd defended against about 30 trains in the 48hs leading up to the "LT", right? At one point I made four simultaneous cancel snipes. You also know that about half of our villages had <25 farms hours before the "LT"? How about that we were being hit by four tribes all week? We didn't have a single BL village; nothing that would pass for a safe zone. We were being hit on every front, which included our core, which was arguably our most vulnerable FL lol. We had very little support and since we hold (held?) the two highest AotDs in the worlds history, I think it's fair to say we weren't turtled up lol. We even picked up a DotD earlier in the week lmao. Nice "one day" after LT BS...

We had no friends from out of world log until ~22ST Wednesday, at which point everything launched more than an hour prior was well dealt with already. 22ST Wednesday is when I crashed because I'd been sitting in front of TW for days without nearly enough sleep. Hell, I even went 30hs without eating at one point. As for sitters...

https://gyazo.com/431ea2afa5ad483c0771adf286908452

I don't consider myself embarrassed about any of this that has been mentioned. If I was embarrassed about a single thing it would be persuading Laura that we should attack Gear. That was a HUGE strategical error. We meant it when we said we wanted to be rimmed. I for one, most certainly want a break from TW.

P.S. Laura, I can't like your post when you refer to attacking our account as attacking you.
 

THE MURPH ALL CAPS

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I don't want to be the guy that re-derails a thread, but I'd rather that than run away from anything. I'm sorry for bringing this up again, but I've been pretty busy since Wednesday sleeping, working, seeing family and yet again sleeping.



I agree with you completely about there being nothing wrong with the half the tribe hitting us. I'd have done the same and I think anybody who sees it differently is naive.

The message above though, that's ridiculous.

Let's start with the tribemate comment. Firstly, that's directed entirely at me whether you knew that or not. Everybody loves Laura.

Gear blamed and hated me but loved Laura, despite her being the one who'd had enough of his BS and kicked him. I always knew what he was going to be like, so it didn't bother me so much when he was. The only abuse in that relationship was from me towards Gear, before he joined the tribe, and then from Gear towards tribemates shortly before Laura kicked him. We didn't attack him for half a week after kicking him, during which time we turned down a NAP offer from him.

As for Andrey of the LORD 0F WAR account. He was a **** from day one. I put up with (incredibly well by my own low standards on this) his idiocy for ages, but one day he went way over the line with his disrespect, so I told him to only talk to me with regards to ig matters from then on. He went around telling everybody he had apologized, even though that was a straight up lie, then he left the tribe a day later. He is an egotistical idiot who always thinks he knows what he's talking about, even when he hasn't got the slightest clue. He takes corrections really personally because he has a patheticly huge ego that can't handle it. He hated me long before I said a bad word to him LOL. If you're either an idiot, or just somebody who's happy to have somebody talk BS in yours chats all day you'll probably get along with this guy just fine. Ultimately he was disrespectful, then left the tribe of his own accord, still stating repeatedly how he was on our side and would always be, then attacked us with zero warning, even after seeing us time and time again demonstrate how we'd never consider doing the same to him or anybody else.

This whole concept you keep throwing around about "one day" is misleading. You know we'd defended against about 30 trains in the 48hs leading up to the "LT", right? At one point I made four simultaneous cancel snipes. You also know that about half of our villages had <25 farms hours before the "LT"? How about that we were being hit by four tribes all week? We didn't have a single BL village; nothing that would pass for a safe zone. We were being hit on every front, which included our core, which was arguably our most vulnerable FL lol. We had very little support and since we hold (held?) the two highest AotDs in the worlds history, I think it's fair to say we weren't turtled up lol. We even picked up a DotD earlier in the week lmao. Nice "one day" after LT BS...

We had no friends from out of world log until ~22ST Wednesday, at which point everything launched more than an hour prior was well dealt with already. 22ST Wednesday is when I crashed because I'd been sitting in front of TW for days without nearly enough sleep. Hell, I even went 30hs without eating at one point. As for sitters...

https://gyazo.com/431ea2afa5ad483c0771adf286908452

I don't consider myself embarrassed about any of this that has been mentioned. If I was embarrassed about a single thing it would be persuading Laura that we should attack Gear. That was a HUGE strategical error. We meant it when we said we wanted to be rimmed. I for one, most certainly want a break from TW.

P.S. Laura, I can't like your post when you refer to attacking our account as attacking you.

tl;dr p & ty
 

DeletedUser43986

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History = Irrelevant
TW = Game
APEX = Fun

I have no knowledge of previous transgressions, nor do I perceive them as interesting, relevant or of any consequence.

What I can say is that APEX is a tribe that plays in the very spirit of the game and under Kirks leadership has conjured the morale, harmony and mindset necessary to enjoy the game.
 

DeletedUser92554

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History = Irrelevant
TW = Game
APEX = Fun

I have no knowledge of previous transgressions, nor do I perceive them as interesting, relevant or of any consequence.

You may not find them of interest, but there is a reason kirk is one of the most disliked players in this game. His history is why no major tribe will truly ally with himself and many good players avoid him. He has already called his tribe mates scraps to me in the game, so however nice he is to you right now is not how he really feels about most of his tribe.

Although, I am genuinely glad that you are enjoying the game. That's always an important part. What's your IGN? We'll probably face off soon enough if we haven't already and it's always nice to actually know the person you're fighting against.

Do not think i dont have the same if not more background in management than you have quoted. and TW is very different. quoting me as worst leader ever is a bit harsh to say the least. i simply do not like EGO players who care not what tribe they are in as long as their account grows. i do not run pre mades. but what tribes i do duke 99% of the time reach top 6. and its always fun and enjoyment until recruited from. APEX for instance went down to 3 members yet back to number 7 tribe. weve been fighting obey continually.. we have good stats per ratio.. we have good friends. all tribe members are happy and active. so what should i be listening to you for? go keep your comments and play your type of game. i will play mine..
and im a firm believer in love your friends and respect but hate your enemies. unless your in HR dept RL :)

Thanks for proving my point about you taking feedback. I never called you the worst leader ever. I said you are one of the worst people at taking feedback I've ever seen. Two very different things, and you just reacted exactly how I expected (twisting my words) to feedback.

You even seem to agree with me that people in your tribes always leave you ("its always fun and enjoyment until recruited from."). You get to rank 6 by recruiting everyone in sight (you've recruited every player over 10K in the rim in your K in this world), and I can guarantee you, many of those players are either very inexperienced, or very poor at this game given how easily they have been to cut through. Then the good players leave. Why? Because good players don't like it when the Duke refuses to kick or internal poor inactive players. They don't like feeling like they are the only ones doing something in the tribe and having to carry the poor players through. They'll leave and either form their own tribe, or join a tribe with good players and leadership. You'll never get beyond place 6 by playing point-wars and trying to keep your tribe filled with 40 players, half of whom have poor activity. You need to cut the deadweight, which you refuse to do. That's why the ops you had under the original Apex failed- too many weak players.

That's why the new Apex right now can't hold off 3-5 members of Obey (you have not fought Obey yet, you've only fought against a few members and your tribe is down by about 170 conquers already). Mostly it's just 1 account attacking you in reality (the one I'm one, with 60 of those 170 conquers). Too much deadweight.

I think Apex has only retaken and held one village from obey, which puts the ratio at about 170 losses to one recap. That's not "good stats."

“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results." Albert Einstein


And before you twist this too, I'm not saying everyone in Apex is bad. Cads, Cafrat, Wulf, Mongoose have all been doing well given the circumstances. The other players have either fallen very easily or I haven't attacked them yet. I know red Khan has done wonderful in past worlds too. Haven't fought him yet though.
 
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kirkthewineman

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gosh you do dribble on.. ex apex i gather lol.. if so you left not for the above reasons but because obey promised you a slot.. and amazingly this most disliked player as you say has many friends and vid chats and fun daily
do you?? i doubt it.. seems just like a opinionated loner bragging about a few pixels trying to gain some credence on externals..
like i said .. you play your game and ill play mine.
ps one of my members has visited me today rl to say hello..:p
 

DeletedUser92554

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gosh you do dribble on.. ex apex i gather lol.. if so you left not for the above reasons but because obey promised you a slot.. and amazingly this most disliked player as you say has many friends and vid chats and fun daily
do you?? i doubt it.. seems just like a opinionated loner bragging about a few pixels trying to gain some credence on externals..
like i said .. you play your game and ill play mine.
ps one of my members has visited me today rl to say hello..:p

Another example of how kirk reacts to feedback and the real world state of his tribe. I think this could be made into a game

Take a sip when:
Kirk starts making personal insults (e.g. "opinionated loner")
Kirk says everyone else has big egos and that's why they leave him (e.g. a few posts above)
Kirk says everyone was offered a spot in [Insert tribe that is doing better than his] and that's why they leave him (e.g. quoted post)
Kirk tries to create a clever name to insult another player (e.g. "Simpleperson" for simplyphysics)
Kirk makes a promise late at night, then goes back on it in the morning when he's no longer intox.... well... you all know what I'm getting at (e.g. too many examples to even start)
Kirk threatens to kick someone for something trivial (e.g. a SuperDog co-plyaer not wanting to tell him where they live)
Kirk says someone else is the reason the Op failed (e.g. Op on AMB where Kirk said to target 5 villas out of ~100 with no other fakes and was surprised that it failed)
Kirk lies about someone he dislikes to try to get people to turn on them (e.g. "bendyut is my spy")
Kirk removes someone from council when they try to express concern about the direction of the tribe
Kirk writes a message filled with profanities aimed at a tribemate
Strawberry Queen apologizes for Kirk's behavior (with no apology ever coming from Kirk)

Finish your drink:
Kirk gets nobled out and sent to the rim. Again.


And no, I was never in Apex, which you'd know if you didn't recruit so many people and have trouble keeping track of who was in your tribe. I got to watch the train wreck from the outside and hear all the members complain about it.

P.S. Congrats on having Strawberry Queen stop by your house. She seems to be the only person who sticks with you world after world. I'm glad you have people who will visit you and hang out with you in the real world. It's always nice when friends stop by, and I genuinely hope that you do have a happy life outside of TW, as I take no issue with that part of you or your life (and there's no need to start make rude assumptions about my personal life either).

I do take issue with your leadership and behavior here though.
 
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DeletedUser

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The message above though, that's ridiculous.

Let's start with the tribemate comment. Firstly, that's directed entirely at me whether you knew that or not. Everybody loves Laura.

Gear blamed and hated me but loved Laura, despite her being the one who'd had enough of his BS and kicked him. I always knew what he was going to be like, so it didn't bother me so much when he was. The only abuse in that relationship was from me towards Gear, before he joined the tribe, and then from Gear towards tribemates shortly before Laura kicked him. We didn't attack him for half a week after kicking him, during which time we turned down a NAP offer from him.

As for Andrey of the LORD 0F WAR account. He was a **** from day one. I put up with (incredibly well by my own low standards on this) his idiocy for ages, but one day he went way over the line with his disrespect, so I told him to only talk to me with regards to ig matters from then on. He went around telling everybody he had apologized, even though that was a straight up lie, then he left the tribe a day later. He is an egotistical idiot who always thinks he knows what he's talking about, even when he hasn't got the slightest clue. He takes corrections really personally because he has a patheticly huge ego that can't handle it. He hated me long before I said a bad word to him LOL. If you're either an idiot, or just somebody who's happy to have somebody talk BS in yours chats all day you'll probably get along with this guy just fine. Ultimately he was disrespectful, then left the tribe of his own accord, still stating repeatedly how he was on our side and would always be, then attacked us with zero warning, even after seeing us time and time again demonstrate how we'd never consider doing the same to him or anybody else.

This whole concept you keep throwing around about "one day" is misleading. You know we'd defended against about 30 trains in the 48hs leading up to the "LT", right? At one point I made four simultaneous cancel snipes. You also know that about half of our villages had <25 farms hours before the "LT"? How about that we were being hit by four tribes all week? We didn't have a single BL village; nothing that would pass for a safe zone. We were being hit on every front, which included our core, which was arguably our most vulnerable FL lol. We had very little support and since we hold (held?) the two highest AotDs in the worlds history, I think it's fair to say we weren't turtled up lol. We even picked up a DotD earlier in the week lmao. Nice "one day" after LT BS...

We had no friends from out of world log until ~22ST Wednesday, at which point everything launched more than an hour prior was well dealt with already. 22ST Wednesday is when I crashed because I'd been sitting in front of TW for days without nearly enough sleep. Hell, I even went 30hs without eating at one point. As for sitters...

https://gyazo.com/431ea2afa5ad483c0771adf286908452

I don't consider myself embarrassed about any of this that has been mentioned. If I was embarrassed about a single thing it would be persuading Laura that we should attack Gear. That was a HUGE strategical error. We meant it when we said we wanted to be rimmed. I for one, most certainly want a break from TW.

P.S. Laura, I can't like your post when you refer to attacking our account as attacking you.

Well, with regards to people in your tribe not liking you, I can only refer to what I have been told. Whether they were right or wrong, your tribemates did not like your account for a variety of reasons and therefore turned against you. As for the "one day comment", the land time was on 25th January in the early morning. Your last recap was at 7:56ST on 26th January. I don't know if you were sniping past this point, but not as far as I'm aware. Of course if you are sacking all your troops, you are going to get defender of the day. One Last Goodbye is getting defender right now with over double your record by just keeping his troops at home. As for the decision of going heavily offensive, though I'm pretty sure you looked kind of balanced, well that was dumb considering you knew Obey was going to attack you sooner or later.

Ultimately, I am not particularly impressed by your performance. You and your coplayers have time to write long posts whining but not enough time to defend even a day past the land time. Yea you sniped a few trains, that's it. Hey, at least my 80 hour each way nukes and nobles I sent lazily and haphazardly to basically be a minor distraction and help the team out somehow got me attacker of the day.
 

kirkthewineman

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all i can say losaldzar whatever.. is i dont really care about you and what you do in yr game play.. but i do believe yr a liar..you know way too much here and have certainly a grievance , and if you had any balls would reveal in game name..but you obviously wont .
also i really do think yr a know all and a bit aloof as if your opinions are the ones that count and your advice is paramount..
keep yr advice
keep yr opinions
and keep yr chips!!
 

DeletedUser120744

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i do believe yr a liar..you know way too much here and have certainly a grievance

hmm, is a liar, but knows too much. Kind of contradictory statements there, isn't that Kirk?

I have a grievance, from you calling me a ***t and threatening to "come find me" for leaving your tribe after being nothing but respectful to you, for my duration there.

Thinking I was scared and ran from a war with who, Lloyds tribe? all I have to say to that is... giphy (1).gif
 

DeletedUser117803

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Dream Team

And let me qualify by saying my dream team is based on primarily two things:
- Consistency
- Activity

GT, for all the obvious reasons. beast account, and great team player.

Mez, the one account you always want on your team. there is literally, in the literal sense, nothing bad to say about this account.

Three Amigos - sorry I cannot sort them separately, but they are so solid and always for the tribe. <3

w0sh. I doubt there has ever been a more consistent player in the game. Plus, I just flat out love w0sh. #Sister

any account that my bae jon plays. ever.
any account that my other bae vick plays. ever.

And Cody. He takes a lot of grief, and, like us all is not perfect. But I would happily play any world, any time with Cody.

For the wild cards - b/c we need those - nathan potter and phippsy. Yeah, I know they are not on this world, but, hey, it is my dream team.

I am pretty sure I missed a couple, and, obviously, for w96, I know mostly the players in OBEY.
I doubt I would quarrel with Jake & Trex being on the team, tbh. ;)
 

DeletedUser121437

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Another example of how kirk reacts to feedback and the real world state of his tribe. I think this could be made into a game

Take a sip when:
Kirk starts making personal insults (e.g. "opinionated loner")
Kirk says everyone else has big egos and that's why they leave him (e.g. a few posts above)
Kirk says everyone was offered a spot in [Insert tribe that is doing better than his] and that's why they leave him (e.g. quoted post)
Kirk tries to create a clever name to insult another player (e.g. "Simpleperson" for simplyphysics)
Kirk makes a promise late at night, then goes back on it in the morning when he's no longer intox.... well... you all know what I'm getting at (e.g. too many examples to even start)
Kirk threatens to kick someone for something trivial (e.g. a SuperDog co-plyaer not wanting to tell him where they live)
Kirk says someone else is the reason the Op failed (e.g. Op on AMB where Kirk said to target 5 villas out of ~100 with no other fakes and was surprised that it failed)
Kirk lies about someone he dislikes to try to get people to turn on them (e.g. "bendyut is my spy")
Kirk removes someone from council when they try to express concern about the direction of the tribe
Kirk writes a message filled with profanities aimed at a tribemate
Strawberry Queen apologizes for Kirk's behavior (with no apology ever coming from Kirk)

Finish your drink:
Kirk gets nobled out and sent to the rim. Again.


And no, I was never in Apex, which you'd know if you didn't recruit so many people and have trouble keeping track of who was in your tribe. I got to watch the train wreck from the outside and hear all the members complain about it.

P.S. Congrats on having Strawberry Queen stop by your house. She seems to be the only person who sticks with you world after world. I'm glad you have people who will visit you and hang out with you in the real world. It's always nice when friends stop by, and I genuinely hope that you do have a happy life outside of TW, as I take no issue with that part of you or your life (and there's no need to start make rude assumptions about my personal life either).

I do take issue with your leadership and behavior here though.

If I played this game, I'd die from alcohol poisoning in the first 5 minutes...

Kirk I'm gong to give you some good advice. I don't know why I even try because you are just going to call me a liar or a cheater or whatever other nickname you can come up with. Why not instead of thinking you never do anything wrong, you take some of these points said from the people above to heart. I'm very surprised that you've never ever EVER changed the way you play the game. The way you currently play the game is you make a tribe of good people near you. You get them all hyped up on the possibility of winning the world. Then you fail to deliver on the that promise and you wonder why everyone leaves you. We don't leave you because we want to rebel, or join something better. We leave because you lack of true leadership. You do a very VERY good job at recruiting people for your tribe and give them a chance to succeed. The problem is, once they figure out what you are all about, they leave you.

Instead of doing the same old same old, why not try to make a change. Instead of being under this illusion that your way is the right way.
 

RealFrankUnderwood

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Well, with regards to people in your tribe not liking you, I can only refer to what I have been told. Whether they were right or wrong, your tribemates did not like your account for a variety of reasons and therefore turned against you. As for the "one day comment", the land time was on 25th January in the early morning. Your last recap was at 7:56ST on 26th January. I don't know if you were sniping past this point, but not as far as I'm aware. Of course if you are sacking all your troops, you are going to get defender of the day. One Last Goodbye is getting defender right now with over double your record by just keeping his troops at home. As for the decision of going heavily offensive, though I'm pretty sure you looked kind of balanced, well that was dumb considering you knew Obey was going to attack you sooner or later.

Ultimately, I am not particularly impressed by your performance. You and your coplayers have time to write long posts whining but not enough time to defend even a day past the land time. Yea you sniped a few trains, that's it. Hey, at least my 80 hour each way nukes and nobles I sent lazily and haphazardly to basically be a minor distraction and help the team out somehow got me attacker of the day.

I don't even know who you refer to when you say tribe mates who turned against us lol. I only know of one who comes close to fitting that description and he wasn't even a tribe mate when he decided to take the easy way out and betray us and let's be perfectly clear, he betrayed us because they wanted in OBEY, not because he hated our account.

That example is LORD 0F WAR who I believe left our tribe well over a week before deciding to stop supporting us.

As for Gear. He was doing everything he could to get back into our tribe after we kicked him. Even after our first op on him he tried to get back back in. He badly wanted to be with us and not OBEY, so please explain this claim that our tribe mates turned against us lol.

We weren't heavy offense and we only stacked a few villages. None heavily. We were 60%+ def and I personally made more than 100 snipes last week. That's just myself, not accounting for anybody else. Do you even have any clue how many nukes and trains we were hit with? I must have dodged about 200 nukes just on Tuesday/Wednesday, the period you seem to think wasn't even a part of the op as we were being hit much less (which is true). As I've already said, we even got DotD on one of those days lol, despite dodging(/sniping) nearly everything. Again that's just me I'm referring to when I talk about that number of nukes dodged. I wasn't dodging greens.

You're coming across as incredibly clueless for somebody who is bold enough to post on here with such judgements.
 
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DeletedUser

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Why does everyone I talk to about you in the area not like you then?

I personally don't care if you were hit with 2000 nukes before the land time, the fact is you talked big on the externals as well as on your war declaration and then you gave up within a day of the land time. You took the cowards way out. You couldn't even credit Obey for a job well done or just bow out if you weren't willing to do that. You and your coplayer had to come on here salty and blame a bunch of guys "backstabbing" you and talked rubbish about dirty tactics just to save face when the reality was you just poked a bear one time too many and got mauled.

Your account died nearly as fast as an account that got banned and was in a way worse position. I don't get the attitude of players nowadays, acting as if this is some sort of achievement that should be celebrated.

If this was me, I'd not be posting on the externals making silly excuses, I'd be ashamed:

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Wow, who did that? Thats awesome!!!

Btw, adding to this Noobey can't ever survive an attack like, skill wise, talk wise or anything else without support... Those who are encouraging Noobey in this world should be ashamed for not helping the account for not sending support....In fact those players who think we are not capable of destroying eliminating skilled players should put where their mouth is and fight..
 
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DeletedUser120744

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there is no achievement. And I don't know how many times I have to say I quit due to a backstab and not due to being unwilling to defend... I give you guys all the credit. You beat me, by breaking my spirit. Congratulations.

Kempy I have to credit for being only one to put effort into the long range. He was an easy one to decide to stack against. Sorry kempy!
 
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