DeletedUser
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hm ESL and MCD huh? i think that ESL has a great leader. i don;t know much about the MCD leader but a good leader usally knows how to fight wars even if they are out numbered
DeletedUser4665
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Well I'm in her tribe now t_t
DeletedUser
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DeletedUser4665
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I saw that too... also thought that was funny...
Don't worry. She will not be seeing much action.
DeletedUser
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DeletedUser4665
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Yeah she will... just not in this game....
Lulz.
DeletedUser
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and the trend towards going off-topic continues...
DeletedUser
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Indeed, perhaps timdogg will clean up his own thread, including ours that are asking for him to do such.
These thread derailers are starting to do such far too often.
These thread derailers are starting to do such far too often.
DeletedUser
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No personal hard feelings we all try to do our best for our tribes i hope MCD and ESL enjoy this since that is what this game is all about
Landorian
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Heh, this should be fun.
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Well, now here I had promised myself to stay away from the forums. I burn up way too much time managiing tribes in two worlds. But I cant let TimDogg have all the fun.
Let me say that as the Founding Duke of Warrior Sages, now known as ESLAP there were two moments that I consider the best decisions I have made so far and one that I seriously regret.
1) When I agreed with Wilco-UH of Tribe UH that our merger would be an excellent move. The honor, teamwork and effort that these two groups of people share is fantastic! From day one it was like old friends, which is what each group consisted of to start.
2) When I agreed with Wilco and Timdogg to unite our tribe with ESL and become ESLAP. And these people also play, joke and teamwork like us~ again, like old friends!
Now, the great regret I have in world 4:
The day I bothered to speak with Uldor while I worked to bring together a brotherhood of midsized tribes of solid players that could endeavor to survive in the central core of world 4 surrounded by the ubertribes. Idealistic? Yeah~ but thats me. Downfall? Calling upon Uldor.
Having watched him carefully I will credit Uldor with two things ~ he is a very strong leader and that he does play a very strong wargame. After working with him in the TUBA war and on the "Allied Veterans Brotherhood" I quickly discovered that is where my respect for him ends. I give respect easily, and give people credit for a wide range of character flaws but when they work hard enough to loose my respect, I assure you it is well deserved.
TimDogg has only touched upon the surface of Uldors actions that we find dishonorable as it is tiresome to go into that much detail, but Tim and I exchanged many details on this matter. As I have with other tribes that Uldor has called Ally, but turned upon and attacked later without provocation , even after supporting MCD with resources ad attacks against enemys in their wars and advancements. Once he has attained his goal, the alliance is only a passing disposable convenience and those he used no longer warrant even an e-mail response from him.
I should have taken it as a clue when Uldor told me when I asked about supporting w00t in their mutual war:
"Do NOT tell w00t that you are involved in this. It is a breach of secret"
Something to keep in mind for anyone considering themselves as an ally of his.
This ultimately is the failing for us in regards to Uldor. Yes, subversion is a key tactic and we all use it. But isnt it rather a game ethic that if you agree to join in an alliance and set each other to this diplomacy, that you atleast talk with them to remove the alliance prior to attacking their tribe?
But then, it would have helped if he had ever truly set us to Ally at all. My friends in MCD, while keeping loyalty to their tribe, were able verify that at no time did Uldor ever set us to ally, though he he was quick excercised STRICT right of veto to every tribe I brought before him, except for one under his friends leadership. I will not bore you with the details, but shortly after I provided him several diplomacy lists in confidence, he began his war on TUBA and informed me that since they listed TUBA as an ally, they were now also enemys ~ even though they were willing to change this on their lists to join in the Allied Veterans Brotherhood. None of us knew at that time he planned on this War. I thought with his past in TUBA that he would approve. Ah well, live and learn.
Now, here is where I relly begin to take issue:
By this time I FULLY realized that Uldor had NO intention of telling me anything, keeping OUR alliances stiffeled and as his tribe was allready scouting us and attacking those other tribes on the previously mentioned lists, his colors were showing through and our leadership agreed we had no obligation to discuss any of our diplomacy with him any longer. He was "pissed that he wasnt informed of our merger(?). Now WHY would he be so upset that AV-WS, an ally, merged with another? Curious, eh?
ESL had proven to be loyal ally and team players, Uldor had not. More stories I could tell~ but this is allready far to long.
Let me simply reply to something vision said:
Outside the appertaining indignancy I hold against Uldor for his deceit and betrayal, I still hold "the GAME" as the most important part of Tribal Wars. Yes, it is a wargame and that is why I came! Now, I prefer a balanced battle, but in this case, someone crossed the lines of what I call good sportsmanship & common courtesy and when ESL decided to declare war, I am with him 100%. If you bring all your buddys, agressively recruit the top players from other tribes & bring them at me like a tidal wave & I get rimmed~ more power to you!
My victory is akin to Don Quixote as he charges the Windmills~ I come to play and reach for the star, still, I hold my honor and THAT is more than I can say for some players!
When next you choose your allys, beware for their ethics may vary vastly from your own and no amount of e-mail can assure you that trust exists.
Now, time to go see what all those little crossed swords mean in my browser!
ESL ~ We are proud to fight as part of your tribe! Allys~ thank you for your support. Now lets all go see how this works out!
Let me say that as the Founding Duke of Warrior Sages, now known as ESLAP there were two moments that I consider the best decisions I have made so far and one that I seriously regret.
1) When I agreed with Wilco-UH of Tribe UH that our merger would be an excellent move. The honor, teamwork and effort that these two groups of people share is fantastic! From day one it was like old friends, which is what each group consisted of to start.
2) When I agreed with Wilco and Timdogg to unite our tribe with ESL and become ESLAP. And these people also play, joke and teamwork like us~ again, like old friends!
Now, the great regret I have in world 4:
The day I bothered to speak with Uldor while I worked to bring together a brotherhood of midsized tribes of solid players that could endeavor to survive in the central core of world 4 surrounded by the ubertribes. Idealistic? Yeah~ but thats me
. Downfall? Calling upon Uldor.Having watched him carefully I will credit Uldor with two things ~ he is a very strong leader and that he does play a very strong wargame. After working with him in the TUBA war and on the "Allied Veterans Brotherhood" I quickly discovered that is where my respect for him ends. I give respect easily, and give people credit for a wide range of character flaws but when they work hard enough to loose my respect, I assure you it is well deserved.
TimDogg has only touched upon the surface of Uldors actions that we find dishonorable as it is tiresome to go into that much detail, but Tim and I exchanged many details on this matter. As I have with other tribes that Uldor has called Ally, but turned upon and attacked later without provocation , even after supporting MCD with resources ad attacks against enemys in their wars and advancements. Once he has attained his goal, the alliance is only a passing disposable convenience and those he used no longer warrant even an e-mail response from him.
I should have taken it as a clue when Uldor told me when I asked about supporting w00t in their mutual war:
"Do NOT tell w00t that you are involved in this. It is a breach of secret"
Something to keep in mind for anyone considering themselves as an ally of his.
This ultimately is the failing for us in regards to Uldor. Yes, subversion is a key tactic and we all use it. But isnt it rather a game ethic that if you agree to join in an alliance and set each other to this diplomacy, that you atleast talk with them to remove the alliance prior to attacking their tribe?
But then, it would have helped if he had ever truly set us to Ally at all. My friends in MCD, while keeping loyalty to their tribe, were able verify that at no time did Uldor ever set us to ally, though he he was quick excercised STRICT right of veto to every tribe I brought before him, except for one under his friends leadership. I will not bore you with the details, but shortly after I provided him several diplomacy lists in confidence, he began his war on TUBA and informed me that since they listed TUBA as an ally, they were now also enemys ~ even though they were willing to change this on their lists to join in the Allied Veterans Brotherhood. None of us knew at that time he planned on this War. I thought with his past in TUBA that he would approve. Ah well, live and learn.
Now, here is where I relly begin to take issue:
By this time I FULLY realized that Uldor had NO intention of telling me anything, keeping OUR alliances stiffeled and as his tribe was allready scouting us and attacking those other tribes on the previously mentioned lists, his colors were showing through and our leadership agreed we had no obligation to discuss any of our diplomacy with him any longer. He was "pissed that he wasnt informed of our merger(?). Now WHY would he be so upset that AV-WS, an ally, merged with another? Curious, eh?
ESL had proven to be loyal ally and team players, Uldor had not. More stories I could tell~
but this is allready far to long.Let me simply reply to something vision said:
Outside the appertaining indignancy I hold against Uldor for his deceit and betrayal, I still hold "the GAME" as the most important part of Tribal Wars. Yes, it is a wargame and that is why I came! Now, I prefer a balanced battle, but in this case, someone crossed the lines of what I call good sportsmanship & common courtesy and when ESL decided to declare war, I am with him 100%. If you bring all your buddys, agressively recruit the top players from other tribes & bring them at me like a tidal wave & I get rimmed~ more power to you!
My victory is akin to Don Quixote as he charges the Windmills~ I come to play and reach for the star, still, I hold my honor and THAT is more than I can say for some players!
When next you choose your allys, beware for their ethics may vary vastly from your own and no amount of e-mail can assure you that trust exists.
Now, time to go see what all those little crossed swords mean in my browser!
ESL ~ We are proud to fight as part of your tribe! Allys~ thank you for your support. Now lets all go see how this works out!
DeletedUser
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i've heard w00t enterd the war on the wrong site. :icon_eek:
DeletedUser
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clear your ears
DeletedUser
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DeletedUser
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this'll be fun
DeletedUser
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First of all.
1st I checked the reports.fewel was taking villages from you and not esl from fewels.
Thats not a refugee as long as I know.And i dont care if you say so.
2nd the duke of AV-WS put MCD in a brotherhood whith so many tribes without ever accepting.He is so anoing he sent mails toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo bigs thats is silly to read.If i read them all is the same with passing exams on my univercity.
3rd Sorry guys but the allies and NAPS that are in possition to TALK are getting from us more that they give to us always BECAUSE WE JUST LIKE THEM
4th i know that for someplayers that play the TW more than me and have acived nothing its too anoining to see me (n00b) to have accomplished quite good things
5th smoke are posting that they will support me and the same time they are asking for a NAP in mails (plz tell me what to do with you)
6th I cant understand why you are trying to make me look bad you dont have to give any excuses to go to a war.Or are you so afrait that you are trying to pick up some allies from this forum.
7th I dont play this game to prove anything to noone . I play this game for fun and this war i hope it will be fun
8th DONT YOU EVER MAIL ME AGAIN IN GAME INSULTING ME . I DONT WANT TO REPORT IT BUT NEXT TIME I WILL I never insulted anyone not in this game only but in real life too
9th try to act like adults i see your age at the profile and i find hard to believe that you are that much you say.
10 As for the war . I congratulate you that you are a tribe that is not afrait to fight but when you decide to fight JUST fight . Dont post and say the thinks that YOU think that may give you allies since for the ones that want to attacks us you are nothing more than a excuse and for the ones that do not want to attacks us you are just getting ignored
And btw i will be more than happy this time to see a post about my bad english.Sorry bu i am more of a math guy and not an english speling freak but i can make an efford to write these all in german and french too.
And last but not least I DONT OWN AN EXPLANATION TO NOONE EXEPT MY ALLIES AND MY MEMBERS .
I ALSO THINK THAT MCD ARE THE ONLY TRIBE THAT IS ABLE TO VOTE AND DONT ACT ONLY BECAUSE OF MY PERSONAL REASONS
1st I checked the reports.fewel was taking villages from you and not esl from fewels.
Thats not a refugee as long as I know.And i dont care if you say so.
2nd the duke of AV-WS put MCD in a brotherhood whith so many tribes without ever accepting.He is so anoing he sent mails toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo bigs thats is silly to read.If i read them all is the same with passing exams on my univercity.
3rd Sorry guys but the allies and NAPS that are in possition to TALK are getting from us more that they give to us always BECAUSE WE JUST LIKE THEM
4th i know that for someplayers that play the TW more than me and have acived nothing its too anoining to see me (n00b) to have accomplished quite good things
5th smoke are posting that they will support me and the same time they are asking for a NAP in mails (plz tell me what to do with you)
6th I cant understand why you are trying to make me look bad you dont have to give any excuses to go to a war.Or are you so afrait that you are trying to pick up some allies from this forum.
7th I dont play this game to prove anything to noone . I play this game for fun and this war i hope it will be fun
8th DONT YOU EVER MAIL ME AGAIN IN GAME INSULTING ME . I DONT WANT TO REPORT IT BUT NEXT TIME I WILL I never insulted anyone not in this game only but in real life too
9th try to act like adults i see your age at the profile and i find hard to believe that you are that much you say.
10 As for the war . I congratulate you that you are a tribe that is not afrait to fight but when you decide to fight JUST fight . Dont post and say the thinks that YOU think that may give you allies since for the ones that want to attacks us you are nothing more than a excuse and for the ones that do not want to attacks us you are just getting ignored
And btw i will be more than happy this time to see a post about my bad english.Sorry bu i am more of a math guy and not an english speling freak but i can make an efford to write these all in german and french too.
And last but not least I DONT OWN AN EXPLANATION TO NOONE EXEPT MY ALLIES AND MY MEMBERS .
I ALSO THINK THAT MCD ARE THE ONLY TRIBE THAT IS ABLE TO VOTE AND DONT ACT ONLY BECAUSE OF MY PERSONAL REASONS
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No comment other than that this is a silly personal attack.
When you joined into the alliance with AV-WS and LACON you were the same size. As soon as you started growing you ignored them and made silly demands.
I take it you are not adressing me?
You are lying
I don't need excuses, you have given me plenty of reason
It already is
I didn't insult you, if one of my members did than take that up with me.
I take it you are not adressing me, if you are I wonder what this statement is based upon.
Is this why you made Grawler post on the forum? This forum makes for interesting reads.
No comment, I couldn't care less about your spelling.
Allies, like the ones you attacked whilst being allied?
I haven't got a clue what you are saying here?
By the time fewels joined MCD he had 200 attacks inbound on him and was pretty much being skinned
No comment other than that this is a silly personal attack.
When you joined into the alliance with AV-WS and LACON you were the same size. As soon as you started growing you ignored them and made silly demands.
I take it you are not adressing me?
You are lying
I don't need excuses, you have given me plenty of reason
It already is
I didn't insult you, if one of my members did than take that up with me.
I take it you are not adressing me, if you are I wonder what this statement is based upon.
Is this why you made Grawler post on the forum? This forum makes for interesting reads.
No comment, I couldn't care less about your spelling.
Allies, like the ones you attacked whilst being allied?
I haven't got a clue what you are saying here?
DeletedUser
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nice nice i bet you are proud about yourself for that reply ...
btw i dont lie smoke did mailed me today about a NAP nad that i post was a simple question.I ges you hemoroids hurts you to be so aggresive ;p
btw i dont lie smoke did mailed me today about a NAP nad that i post was a simple question.I ges you hemoroids hurts you to be so aggresive ;p
DeletedUser
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DeletedUser
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This is not an insult this is a joke.
If i you could see the mails i recieced you whould be able to see what insult means
If i you could see the mails i recieced you whould be able to see what insult means
