Feedback World 120

[Say Bye]

WT or fake limit, and we are fine

 

[JawJaw]

Hey everyone!

Thank you for your massive feedback! I am very happy to see this amount of players providing respectful and constructive feedback.
Based on your feedback I noticed most players seem to object the nightbonus + WT combination. As a result, I have enabled a poll on this thread with 4 options:

• Disable watchtower, enable nightbonus, enable Fake Limit
• Disable watchtower, enable nightbonus, disable Fake Limit
• Enable watchtower, disable nightbonus, disable Fake Limit
• Enable Watchtower, enable nightbonus, disable Fake Limit

Please cast your vote! The settings will be changed according to the result of this poll.

Note that disabling both watchtower and nightbonus is not an option at this point as we've only recently had this setting and we need to have some variety.

Thank you for your feedback so far!

Kind regards,
JJ

 

[JawJaw]

Small update:
I've added a 5th option after all, disable all. Please feel free to change your vote if you had already casted it!

 

[Say Bye]

Small update:
I've added a 5th option after all, disable all. Please feel free to change your vote if you had already casted it!

You said in the previous comment this is not an option.

 

[wildwang]

In jawjaw we trust

 

[JawJaw]

You said in the previous comment this is not an option.

And I have adjusted it

 

[gunnersaurus]

Get rid of 10 tech please

 

[Say Bye]

And I have adjusted it

Then why did you add the opposite of it in the 5th option?

 

[Euler-]

You said in the previous comment this is not an option.

just skip the world if settings dont suit you, rushing worlds might be a bad idea in the long run

 

[Ivek]

Then why did you add the opposite of it in the 5th option?

so people can vote what they want maybe?

 

[JawJaw]

Then why did you add the opposite of it in the 5th option?

Think it through, you'll get there.

 

[Say Bye]

so people can vote what they want maybe?

Then why did he tell disabling both won't be an option?

just skip the world if settings dont suit you, rushing worlds might be a bad idea in the long run

Yeah, said the same for the players who didn't like the original setup

 

[wildwang]

Then why did he tell disabling both won't be an option?



Yeah, said the same for the players who didn't like the original setup

Cry is free

 

[Ivek]

Then why did he tell disabling both won't be an option?

maybe because he changed his mind after?

 

[Griffin140]

Honestly there should be a vote for disable WT and NB, enable fake limit.

To me the international servers shouldn't have NB attached. NB settings are too easy to abuse and manipulate and it's probably the most universally disliked setting that's been brought into the .en worlds in recent years.

Aside from that, I'm of the opinion that worlds ought to have EITHER fake limits and no WT or WT and no fake limit. A world without a fake limit and no WT just increases the intensity of defending drastically and makes defending nearly impossible for most players. Having to dodge 1k attacks an hour for days, weeks, months on end is a major reason a lot of players in the past quit playing the game entirely because it was just too ridiculous for 99.9% of players to handle... There's a reason why this game has relatively so few players that have stuck around for world after world, year after year in the past. I think balancing a world with EITHER a WT or Fake limit setting makes defending barrable for more players and less people will go running for the hills away from the game then. Being on the offensive should have some challenge to it, there's not much of a challenge if you and a few guys can just spam 80k fakes at a defender and sprinkle in 1k nukes and just win villages through burning people out of the game and spamming fake scripts.


-Griff

 

[Say Bye]

Cry is free

Not I am the one who cries when got a not fitting setup No problem, be happy with it.

 

[wildwang]

Honestly there should be a vote for disable WT and NB, enable fake limit.

To me the international servers shouldn't have NB attached. NB settings are too easy to abuse and manipulate and it's probably the most universally disliked setting that's been brought into the .en worlds in recent years.

Aside from that, I'm of the opinion that worlds ought to have EITHER fake limits and no WT or WT and no fake limit. A world without a fake limit and no WT just increases the intensity of defending drastically and makes defending nearly impossible for most players. Having to dodge 1k attacks an hour for days, weeks, months on end is partially the reason a lot of players in the past quit playing the game entirely because it was just to ridiculous for 99.9% of players to handle..There's a reason why this game has relatively so few players that have stuck around for world after works year after year in the past. I think balancing a world with EITHER a WT or Fake limit setting makes defending barrable for more players and less people will go running for the hills away from the game then. Being on the offensive should have some challenge to it, there's not much of a challenge if you and a few guys can just spam 80k fakes at a defender and sprinkle in 1k nukes and just win villages through burning people out of the game and spamming fake scripts.


-Griff

Idk from my opinion game is defender sided and there's multiple different plays people can do to get around having to dodge 24/7.

There's an art to defending and although I do appreciate the fake limit, it isn't a necessity to have it (we lived with it on older worlds).

 

[Nocturne]

WT is super nice nowdays especially IF you solo play

But fakelimit/WT/nightbonus is Kinda Overkill
But 1-2 of them in combination works better i would say

 

[Griffin140]

Idk from my opinion game is defender sided and there's multiple different plays people can do to get around having to dodge 24/7.

There's an art to defending and although I do appreciate the fake limit, it isn't a necessity to have it (we lived with it on older worlds).

And those older worlds killed most players enthusiasm for the game. People grudgingly finished out their world and never returned lol. I have a skype with thousands of contacts from over the years and it's crazy how few of them still play. When asked if they would like to come off their 5-7 year break, it's a universal"hell no, never that game again".

I get why people like no WT and no Fake limit, it makes attacking so easy but there ought to be a balance that doesn't require players to either have a 4 - 6 man account or having to give up your whole life to play seriously. I'd say the balance is having either a WT or fake limit on the world's. Just my opinion though

 

[Black-Bird]

The night bonus levels the playing field a bit between solo accounts and co-played accounts at the start of the game, which really determines how many players continue on towards the mid game, in terms of fun. Not everybody might be able to find a co-player(s) for the start of the world and it doesn't really change all that much. It serves as a somewhat partial fake limit, as attacks landing at night will be less effective but allows the pressure to be kept on during the day.

A defending player/tribe can always counter with their own fakes. It goes both ways. If they run OPs on you, you can also run OPs on them.

Otherwise, agree with the above comments, a WT and fake limit will kill the fun. However, it would be nice if the settings started off as a night bonus for the first weeks/months of the game, then gradually the night bonus was turned off and instead fake limits came into effect. That would be the best solution in my opinion, as it would address both the problems of solo players at the start of the game and handling 80k incomings on a Sunday morning in the late game