So what if we supported them, you were well within your rights at that point to add us to your stats along with Reborn/Nini as we were supporting them just the same way we can put STFU and =NWF= together in stats. and by putting up that you want different ways of veiwing the stats well tht just discredits your allies as you are showing that we are beating them more then you. either way we are still winning. If i was on the northern front id half expect you guys to atack with
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When REBORN and FAIL still existed in their old names, we did not include FAIL in the stats in the NORTH vs REBORN war. Hence, in the interests of fairness, you may not include STFU in the NWF war stats. STFU do not share the same diplomacy as NWF, they do not share all their forums with us, beyond the standard forums that allies share anyway, they do not take accounts sits from NWF, and vice versa hence, you'll find all this evidence that makes it clear to the unbias, logical mind, that STFU and NWF are not a family, merely allies.
Both parties have said they are not family, so why must an uninformed 3rd party outsider suddenly know our relations better than us? If we say that we are allies, then we are allies. No point arguing with the people who can control the alliance, it just defies logic to do so.
Official family or not, you are perceived by everybody as a family, like it or not.
Maybe you should attack each other to prove otherwise?:icon_evil:
My dear a2cip, :icon_rolleyes: if we say we aren't a family, its not a point to be argued. What we, NWF, state with regards to our diplomatic relations... is law. We are always right when it comes to our relations, since it is our diplomacy, hence we know best about the posessions we have. What you have said, is speculation, since you are not an expert on NWF diplomacy, in the same way that a STFU or NWF leader is. Hence, I assure you, we are not a family. Now if you wish to deny expert testimony , that's your choice. But if people never listened to experts in respectives field, the world wouldn't spin, so... :icon_wink: