Revealing True Nature
@Carrot
What I said and do is aimed at the council of fools who do things to benefit themselves first and then the tribe. Remember what I said before in my last circular, "I am the King of information." not because I get lots of information but because I know how to use it (~^,)
We've been portrayed as a liars, huggers, cowards, bullies, etc. for the longest time. I don't think it bothers us anymore.
I do love how you use the word portray. You are intelligent, fairly close to how intelligent Ezekiel is. But lets show the world a bit more of the person you are shall we.
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Demoz2 Apr 24,2013 00:07
Told u its legit
This message has been forwarded by Demoz2.
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 24,2013 00:14
I know. Still don't see what the issue is though. How does exposing this mail benefit the tribe?
Demoz2 Apr 24,2013 00:20
If we can remove corrupt leaders and put in place better ones. Then that can help a tribe way more than recruiting 5 accounts worth 2 million points. Or do u disagree?
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 24,2013 00:29
"Corrupt", "dumb", "stupid", "elite" are terms we like to label players with. It all boils down to one thing, is the player working for the tribe or against it?
Panda, no matter how you dislike him, has always done his best to better the tribe.
You see it doesn't matter what direction we go. We are at the point where as long as we stay together, we have a really big chance to win this world. Someone needs to keep everyone together. Panda is doing that and is therefore more of an asset than a liability.
Demoz2 Apr 25,2013 10:16
If u look at it in those terms then what u say is true.
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 26,2013 00:31
Look, you were gone for a long time so don't think for a second that things are what they seem.
Do not think for a second that we did nothing to get Max back. People did try and they tried several times.
I personally made several attempts to do so. He was family but he had issues with leadership so he decided to split. He also said his decision was final.
FYI, he wanted Kekua out of the tribe. Leadership did not. That was the final straw that made him leave. Now Kekua is in his tribe.
Max is just angry and his angel now defies logic. There is no reasoning with him at this point.
As for why he isn't being attacked, many have stated we don't want to open another front. Max isn't as big as a threat as you think. Sure he is a good player but deep down inside, he is still [ally]FOOL[/ally]. An angry one but a [ally]FOOL[/ally] just the same. He is family whether people admit it or not.
And please, please stop saying people think you expressing your opinions is shit. That is not true. Problem with some people is when the majority disagrees with them, they tend to treat it as a personal slight.
You make use of your right to express your views. Allow us to express ours without turning it to who's on who's side.
Anyways, you made it clear that you were interested in joining WORTHY. I guess that gives your posts a motive.
Demoz2 Apr 26,2013 00:58
On kekua topic. U don't know much. Mail erparnge or the barbarian they will confirm that 2 votes to kick out kekua was done. The first vote said to kick kekua this was done before max left. They did not kick him. Then second vote happened after 2 or 3 weeks after max left. As for kekua being a spy max got screeshots n skype messages of kekua trying to help out a mate. Mail him n ask him about it. I do not know if I can pass it on to u.
Thank you for mailing me though. I appreciate ur effort n time. So I will share some info to u. Max has got someone in council sending him screen shots of the forums I seen the council chat. I also did a lot of digging up on him I found out a good few things on which worlds he played. He is not experienced as me but then again how many people still play tw from world 1. The little I found out that he is a great talent in getting what he wants. He's proven a lot and is very admired among the players I talked to off world. He knows a lot of players and mods. I know a few mods myself and I know from experience u can get mods to help u out. He does not seem to be a player like that but I am careful when dealing with him. You just never know
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 26,2013 01:04
I actually know more than you think.
I had conversations with Max, DC and the rest of leadership regarding Kekua so I know what was happening.
I believed him and was doing my best to get him back into the tribe. He said his decision was final so I backed off.
We all know how good Max is. There is no question about that. Still, we don't think it would be right for us to keep begging the guy after he has repeatedly refused and stated he no longer had any interest in returning. A tribe needs to have a small amount of pride after all.[/spoil]
Thank you for acknowledging my abilities as a player
You are right anger defies logic. I do not get angry I get even. Continue thinking I am angry. If i was my nukes would be off being emptied by now. Just like how Anorexic Panda emptied nukes onto Demoz. And for that it cost the tribe almost 5 million points. I'll explain this later.
You also do not mind by which way Fools wins as long as you win. Your own words "You see it doesn't matter what direction we go"
You have also lied. You did not talk to me about kekua. You have only mailed me once since leaving fools:
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NameAlreadyInUse Apr 01,2013 07:11
Not sure why i'm answering
since I plan on deleting in a few days/weeks.
I'm guessing you'd rather be a lock. A key has no purpose without a lock. A lock however stands just as proud with or without the key.
MAX-BURN Apr 01,2013 08:41
lol. I have a plan that would even keep Death count in the game and give him new life
Anyway I didn't ask what would I be but i asked what would you want. Lock or key? Cant have both. And only want one thing.
But very nice answer.
MAX-BURN Apr 01,2013 08:45
But i get your answer.
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 01,2013 08:50
That's what I meant then. Lol.
So what exactly are you trying to do?
Sort of lost interest in this world when you decide to leave FOOLS.
I really like this tribe but when you left, it just doesn't feel like home anymore. Not saying its all about you but
I have grown to love the old tribe with you, garsy, erp and AP calling the shots.
MAX-BURN Apr 01,2013 09:08
Well that post serves many purposes. This is what I learnt about you and your answer.
Your intelligence is above average. You dont post on the forums but now i know you read them. How does that help me? I now know how much influence i can exert over you or rather how much i can manipulate you without you realising something is suspicious. Manipulation is not always bad. google the word and go to wikipedia. Misleading is bad. I think, i didnt google it lol.
Wondering why im showing this much talent now?:?
When I was in fools, i had nothing to gain. Now I have nothing to lose, but only gain.
Im glad you expressed what you said though. So when the time comes for me to play my trump card i know who was with me
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 01,2013 09:23
Oh but I do post in the externals. I'm using the carrot soup (check my IG profile pic) account to piss people off when I have nothing better to do. Lol.
I wasn't really trying to answer your question but it seemed a good way to get a chance to talk to you and maybe give you an idea how the tribe generally feels about you and you leaving.
A lot of people want you back and are torn between their "love" of the tribe and your leadership.
What I really want to say is that regardless of what happened between you and Garsy/FOOLS leadership, we consider you family and will be nothing but ecstatic if you and the rest of the guys were to return and help us finish what we started.
MAX-BURN Apr 01,2013 11:08
OH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!HELL I NEVER KNEW!
I always asked people who was that lol. And never knew. I wondered all the time. Always thought who the hell is this guy.
So i was right then about above average inteligence
What I really want to say is that regardless of what happened between you and Garsy/FOOLS leadership, we consider you family and will be nothing but ecstatic if you and the rest of the guys were to return and help us finish what we started.
GARSY IS NOT A FRIEND! If i had to confront him with the truth he would not know how to confront other people than the other guilty parties.
Right now im the invisible hand that adam smith (economist) refers to
IF i told you it benefited me more right now for evilsizer to leave and rejoin fools? What would you honestly tell me
MAX-BURN Apr 01,2013 11:09
dam next time less on the exclamation marks
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 01,2013 23:24
LOL. Was supposed to keep it a secret but i've been trolling people in previous worlds so someone is bound to discover who I am sooner or later.
I honestly couldn't care less. Lol. Truth is, i'd like all of you guys to come back so we can finally close this world.
If not, then i'd probably just quit. I'd rather win with the people who I consider family intact than with people who I still see as total strangers.
MAX-BURN Apr 02,2013 14:35
watch
All im saying is stick around for 2 weeks. read the forums comment. I wont let anyone know who you are. U went to great strengths
MAX-BURN Apr 02,2013 14:38
....to hide who you were
Even garsy and the council didnt know who you were. Ezekiel got a forum account that he posts with at times creating nonsense. I realized that was him and when he said he does not post on the forums i called him out lol in public. Then he pm'd me saying shhhhhhh u the only one who knows im on that account. Thinking he told me but he didnt lol.
I didnt suspect you were carrot soup hence i have no right to disclose that fact
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 02,2013 23:41
Some people know. Ciranore does. He thought I wouldn't find out what account he was on but I knew as soon as he got back to this world so I sent him an inc. Lol.
Snape also knows its me though I don't think he is still playing.
2 weeks? sure. I'll be here.
after that i'll probably quit.
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So from deleting your account, to probably quiting to wanting to win the world. Largely different views. And as you can see I even predicted that
Evilsizer would leave. Go ahead and ask Evilsizer she knows good and well what I am capable of. I let her leave for a reason. A reason that is between us. Maybe she'll divulge that reason but i doubt it. But mail her and she'll tell you I predicted what she would do to the T!
DeathCount is your best buddy and you claim that you lost interest in fools. Death has given you premium points to stay on this world because you said you are quitting. Hell he has even gifted you his K84 villages.
Mailed to JR47 on the 28th stating how dear a friend DeathCount is:
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NameAlreadyInUse Apr 28,2013 at 09:03
Same here buddy. Up to now, I am still hoping things can be fixed. DC is one of my earliest friends in this world. I have stood up for him for several times but never had to remind him of that and use it to my advantage. I value his friendship and this issue has caused nothing but problems for everyone.
I do not hold grudges against Max, you or any of the guys who opted to join WORTHY. I just wish that instead of choosing sides, people would just concentrate on fixing the problem.
Best of luck to you buddy.
Sincerely,
Ryan[/spoil]
Death is a dear friend to you. And has done a lot to help you out even when he is in Worthy. And you talk to him a lot. I know because I account sit him from time to time. Here's the mail between you and him. The full mail. Did you not just betray information while being in fools. If you did not then you lied to Death(Journe)
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DeathCount Apr 18,2013 23:55
Do i need to demolish the headquarter already ?
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 19,2013 01:16
Nope. You can leave things as they are.
DeathCount Apr 19,2013 10:18
Oeps demolish all the headquarters until 20 ;D
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 19,2013 10:20
Lol. No worries i'll just build it up to 21.
DeathCount Apr 20,2013 00:26
That's a poor train. Did death ok you nobling his villages yet?
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 20,2013 00:29
Not if its aimed at a gifted village. Lol
Yep. He even sent the contents of his villas to stack one of mine.
I'm assuming i'm talking to Max?
DeathCount Apr 20,2013 00:33
Ah yeah i just noticed the previous attacks from you. He set me about 3-4 days ago i only accepted it now. My sisters getting married tomorrow so its been a really chaotic week. Family some you love some you hate haha.
I took some time out now to try and catch up with the latest events.
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 20,2013 00:38
I hardly open Opera nowadays. Besides, nobody in this area knows how to snipe. I killed them all a long time ago. LOL. JK!
Yeah. Jorne told me about it. Have you started hazing the brother-in-law yet? That would be fun.
DeathCount Apr 22,2013 22:54
Necroechi attacking me
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 22,2013 23:26
Lol. What K is he in?
DeathCount Apr 22,2013 23:36
K73 lol
He just scouted 5 villages now he is clearing 2 of them with just axes en lc. And 2 trains running 16 and 28 hours
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 22,2013 23:37
You still have D there right? What are you planning to do?
DeathCount Apr 22,2013 23:53
Don't know still rocking on my own server.
Going really hard over there already 33 looters.
http://nl.twstats.com/nl31/index.php?page=growth_rankings
Still got my iphone installed on this world, so if something happens and still have time i will do something. Only 4 may PA runs out.
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 22,2013 23:56
Awesome! I surprisingly got the POTD award a few days ago.
Btw, thanks to the PA you gave me, i'll probably be able to get myself to that 20th spot. Lol
DeathCount Apr 22,2013 23:57
Haha probably will go on delete 4th of may.
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 22,2013 23:58
How many days will it take before you barb?
DeathCount Apr 22,2013 23:58
5 days i think
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 23,2013 00:02
Wow, that close? Can you clear [coord]430|779[/coord], [coord]434|780[/coord], [coord]444|782[/coord] and [coord]442|781[/coord] for me before you hit delete? Lol.
I'm sure we'll still be in touch in skype right? I can still a few more tricks from you.
DeathCount Apr 23,2013 00:05
Haha we will see
probably will use my nukes a last time some time
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 23,2013 00:09
I'm guessing it going to be on [player]Necroechi[/player]? Poor guy picked the wrong inactive. Lol
DeathCount Apr 23,2013 00:14
Haha K73 is 95% offence :s
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 23,2013 00:14
Sometimes the best defense is a sword.
DeathCount Apr 23,2013 00:15
My defence is Axe
But he is nobling from long distance :s
So still sucky
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 23,2013 00:23
I meant sometimes the best defense is a swift stroke of a sword. In short, going on the offensive. Lol.
DeathCount Apr 23,2013 00:24
Ah lol english terms not my speciality.
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 23,2013 00:28
No worries. I'm sure that's how an offensive-minded player such as yourself works.
Anyways, got to go now. A bit late for work. Talk to you later buddy.
DeathCount Apr 23,2013 13:49
How is Fools going?
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 23,2013 13:49
Max or Jorne?
DeathCount Apr 23,2013 13:50
Jorne
DeathCount Apr 23,2013 13:53
Let me be clear of you stab me in my back BE aware!
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 23,2013 13:55
Why pull out the support? Got a train and was supposed to send another one to your villages.
Fools is doing OK. Very close to getting our bearings back. Good players have started stepping up to help the tribe and activity is starting to pick up too.
Stab you in the back?? Why the hell would I do that. You told me you were quitting buddy. How in the world will you doublecross someone like that?
DeathCount Apr 23,2013 14:01
You have become leader of Fools?
And max pulled the support away.
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 23,2013 14:04
Nope. You and I know what happened the last time I was part of leadership. Lol. And besides, I do not have the patience to cater to all the egos we have in here.
Why did Max do that?
And more importantly, what kind of "stab in the back" did you think I was going to do? I found your tone and accusations quite a surprise.
DeathCount Apr 23,2013 18:22
You still can have my K84 villages lol
Don't know why max did it probably he doesn't trust anyone.
But as leader of Fools you probably will put the tribe in favorit in comparison with me.
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 23,2013 23:22
Lol. I'm not in FOOLS leadership. I help out in cleaning the forums but other than that, i'm just a regular member. I'm not even THE forum mod. I don't decide on anything around here. Its mostly panda, fek and some of the other guys.
Yeah, Max is probably getting paranoid. Anyways, i'm glad we don't have trust issues. You said you were quitting and last thing I want is for you to leave this world thinking you got double-crossed by me.
DeathCount Apr 23,2013 23:44
But are the planning something on my ?
Because necroechi claims me :s
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 23,2013 23:53
Nope. I guarantee nothing on the forums is being said about you. The guy probably noticed you were already inactive.
DeathCount Apr 23,2013 23:54
haha have random trains now
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 23,2013 23:56
random trains? fake trains?
its just an individual move. that much I can guarantee.
has anyone else even attacked you or bothered to send any fakes?
DeathCount Apr 23,2013 23:58
No nothing else.
But i have random trains ready to launch.
Is someone stacked?
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 24,2013 00:03
See? You know how things are done here. If an OP on you is scheduled, you'd be seeing a ton of fakes by now.
I doubt anyone bothered to stack. Like I said, everyone thinks you're inactive already. Most of the focus is on [ally]SOLO[/ally] and other local targets who aren't really fighting back.
I can try and talk Necroechi out of attacking you if you want. Just thought you didn't care anymore.
DeathCount Apr 24,2013 00:04
Haha busy on other server but if i get attacks i still care lol
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 24,2013 00:05
Lol. So would you like me to talk to Necro? If yes, what would you want me to say?
I'm going to be taking more of those K84 villages later. Will send some attacks to clear so don't get paranoid thinking i'm going to stab you on the back ok? Lol
DeathCount Apr 24,2013 00:07
Haha ok
No let him attack me
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 24,2013 00:31
Staying to show your defensive prowess huh? Lol. Good luck buddy. I'm sure you'll handle the attacks well.
Off to work now. Need money to but premium on the 4th. Lol. BTW, i'm now in the top 20. Thanks to you again.
DeathCount Apr 25,2013 01:52
Going for rank 1 yeah
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 25,2013 01:54
Lol. I thought you were already ranked first in your server?
I'm going for 19 today. I surprisingly got the Looter and Plunderer of the day away a few hours ago. Looks like people here are starting to slow down.
DeathCount Apr 25,2013 01:55
I mean you are going for rank 1 again two trains on my villages
I am the boss on my world
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 25,2013 01:56
Lol. Too far. Even if I get all your villages, I might be short a few villages more to catch up with M.C.M. Lol.
So what happened to Necroechi's attacks?
DeathCount Apr 25,2013 10:47
Sniped ...
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 25,2013 10:52
Lol. Did he bother sending more attacks?
DeathCount Apr 25,2013 18:57
He is back
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 25,2013 23:23
Necro?
DeathCount Apr 26,2013 02:05
Jupz again a train lol.
First try to snipe already worked
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 26,2013 03:08
Lol. He never learns.
DeathCount Apr 26,2013 11:17
Can i have some villages of you in K74 ?
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 26,2013 13:18
I thought you planned on quitting? I was about to ask for he rest of your villages. Lol
DeathCount Apr 26,2013 13:25
LoL i hear more and more words Fools is planning an OP on me...
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 26,2013 13:28
From whom? Nothing is posted in the forums bud. Ask your source to send you a copy or screenshot of the post/convo because I honestly cannot find anyone talking about you here.
DeathCount Apr 26,2013 13:29
@ xxxxx: you are correct , its is in the best interest to take worthy out but there are few, seemingly little but when you look at it from out of the box major, complications, hence we, though technically are at war, havent really launch a full scale war with them.
@ xxxxx: yes, we declared on them, thats coz death attacked one of us. and we wouldn't have left him alone after he did that, and we had planned to take death out by opping him. While we are still finalising the details, diana deleted and we had an an arrangement, a back door thing, between a players of ours and death, which completely changed the situation. So we decided not to press the issue. Till that agreement between one of our and death hold good, we dont see death being a threat to anyone else, but we are still wathcing the situation closely.
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 26,2013 13:31
Let me look more closely where your source got that.
DeathCount Apr 26,2013 13:32
Cancel your trains for the moment
Otherwise i should snipe it
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 26,2013 13:36
Ah I see where he got that. A guy from SENILE who I think is your source asked why you guys aren't being attacked. Thus Panda's explanation.
You knew very well that people wanted to get back at you for taking amrit's villages. I even requested you to temporarily cease the attacks so I can talk to the guys. They did stop and I assumed that was that.
As far as the OP on you is concerned, it was never posted anywhere in the forums. It is possible that individual groups are planning as evidenced by Necros attacks and the mention of the Dianna account. Might be the guys from iFarm but I cannot be sure.
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 26,2013 13:36
Sure.
DeathCount Apr 26,2013 13:38
Pfff don't know what to think anymore
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 26,2013 13:38
crap. I can't cancel them anymore. :/
If you feel uncomfortable about what is happening, I understand. Go ahead and snipe them. Just want to reassure you nothing is being planned and people would rather concentrate on SOLO and other local targets.
DeathCount Apr 26,2013 13:44
If i am back in time i will try and dodge my support.
Otherwise you have bad luck
But need to go for a few hours :s
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 26,2013 13:47
OK buddy. Just tell me if you want me to stop taking those villages. I have other targets in K85 so i'll concentrate on those and hopefully get myself into the top 10. Lol
DeathCount Apr 26,2013 13:47
Pfff you taking villages in K84 is more nobles for K74
My cluster should expand
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 26,2013 13:51
Lol. So are you really quitting? I'm actually surprised you're a lot more active again despite being ranked first in your server.
How are things going there? Any great players from .net that play there too?
DeathCount Apr 26,2013 15:34
No .net doesn't play on .nl because language is different. Yeah lot more active now because the account came at a point were few farms runs on day are good enough so more time
NameAlreadyInUse Apr 26,2013 15:38
Lol. well good for you. still holding the top spot? i'm glad to see you here again but i must say all the info being passed on to you bothers me.
I think someone is trying to mess with your mind buddy. They are trying to scare you into becoming canon fodder.
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I do so love how you try and get information out of Death. Now Death was quitting for 2 reasons. I was barely online for about a week and he would run out of premium on 4th of may. But know this he is well stocked with premium thanks to JR47. He will not be deleting. He will see this world to then end by my side, because ACTIONS speak louder than WORDS. He is rank 1 on his home server a huge lead over rank 2. He is a true warrior and he will show his colours (~^,)
And You kept on going on and on about him deleting. You expected him to delete, but your expectation will not be met. Anyway you say that there is no op on him. But here is evidence that was posted in forums that normal tribe members are privy to. Forget the council skype chat. You posted in that same thread so you definitely read it.
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@ Demoz2: you are correct , its is in the best interest to take worthy out but there are few, seemingly little but when you look at it from out of the box major, complications, hence we, though technically are at war, havent really launch a full scale war with them.
@ cebarn: yes, we declared on them, thats coz death attacked one of us. and we wouldn't have left him alone after he did that, and we had planned to take death out by opping him. While we are still finalising the details, diana deleted and we had an an arrangement, a back door thing, between a players of ours and death, which completely changed the situation. So we decided not to press the issue. Till that agreement between one of our and death hold good, we dont see death being a threat to anyone else, but we are still watching the situation closely.
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So I ask you this. Why Lie to Death about their being even a possibility of an Op? You are the type of player who wants to win at any costs forget how you win. At the end of the day you are in Fools and you try and help fools because you want to win not because you care about your tribemates. You claim that I am family and Death a very dear friend so why on earth are you in fools if winning is not what you desire? Death still stands up for you and trusts you based on words. I trust in actions not words.