Gonna Come Again...That's the spot

[-=I am the Joker=-]

RAID didn't attempt to take villages till after we cleared the players we were planning on taking villages from, maybe that has something to do with it. as I stated above "Admitting either way they have good stats don't they :icon_wink:, now to make it a bit more interesting ask any member of ??? when RAID launched an offensive on them you will find that we hadn't bothered until the day before NOB!! declared on them we couldn't be bothered with them prior so yes we were letting others attack for us thus our ODA not rising"

 

[Tbongzat]

RAID didn't attempt to take villages till after we cleared the players we were planning on taking villages from, maybe that has something to do with it. as I stated above "Admitting either way they have good stats don't they :icon_wink:, now to make it a bit more interesting ask any member of ??? when RAID launched an offensive on them you will find that we hadn't bothered until the day before NOB!! declared on them we couldn't be bothered with them prior so yes we were letting others attack for us thus our ODA not rising"

From my understanding, you've gone after Clayfighter and Malthus most recently, both accounts were cleared of troops by NOB. :icon_confused:

 

[DeletedUser]

Hey Joker you somewhat pointed it out in your post but have you noticed a trend? You were losing or at a stale mate in 2 wars until Rx4U declared on V and NOB!! declared on ???. In both cases when you were fighting the wars you were struggling and it took another tribe to weaken your enemies for you. Its great you turned around the stats against ??? but even yourself by using those dates selected in the stats show its because of NOB!! demoralizing ???. DO NOT take credit for what you did not do. I will give you credit you survived but you did not win those wars it was other tribes doing all the demoralizing and you pick up the scraps.

 

[DeletedUser]

thus our ODA not rising (138 million ranked 5th in the world with 24 players comparing to MASKS 39 players and only 60 million more oda...)

~RAID~ has been around a lot longer than MASK, meaning the in game ODA rankings for MASK are only from a few months' playing time whereas yours are from July/August/whenever RAID was made.
For a more accurate ODA ranking for their players, look at the rankings on TWStats, not in game.

MASK: OD Attack Rank: 1. (314,280,525 score)
RAID: OD Attack Rank: 6. (111,394,426 score)

 

[DeletedUser]

Joker, all i was saying is that it looks a little suspicious, you guys never seem to win a war until another tribe joins in and even then you don't perform as well as they do.

 

[DeletedUser78112]

Joker, all i was saying is that it looks a little suspicious, you guys never seem to win a war until another tribe joins in and even then you don't perform as well as they do.

i agree with this statement fully, better yet its a FACT, Rx4U won -V-, ~RAID~ done what? nothing really

NOB!! is winning the war with ???, ~RAID~ done what? nothing really,

and JOKER admits they only launched the day before? but maybe it was the day after our decleration? im not sure TBH but still ~RAID has done little in there last 2 wars :icon_rolleyes:

 

[velibor]

i agree with this statement fully, better yet its a FACT, Rx4U won -V-, ~RAID~ done what? nothing really

NOB!! is winning the war with ???, ~RAID~ done what? nothing really,

and JOKER admits they only launched the day before? but maybe it was the day after our decleration? im not sure TBH but still ~RAID has done little in there last 2 wars :icon_rolleyes:

Raid did take the first blow from ??? and destroyed quiet a few nukes until nob launched their offensive against ??? mate...in my eyes yall are about equal atm...or at least yall seem equal according to the war effort put in this war vs ???...just cuz you stepped in to help your allies doesnt mean they couldnt have handled the situation by themselves in the longer war which would have proceeded...

 

[DeletedUser78112]

Raid did take the first blow from ??? and destroyed quiet a few nukes until nob launched their offensive against ??? mate...in my eyes yall are about equal atm...or at least yall seem equal according to the war effort put in this war vs ???...just cuz you stepped in to help your allies doesnt mean they couldnt have handled the situation by themselves in the longer war which would have proceeded...

i disagree, ~RAID~ honestly wernt doing anything but what? getting hit by nukes? and then not putting together a proper offensive?
did we get hit hard early stages for a day or 2 yeah we did.... BUT we done an offensive and we succeded? yes we did.

of course it doesnt mean that they couldn't of held out and won by themselves. BUT we didnt give them the chance, WHY? because we were bored and watching our allies get there ass handed to them by a much smaller tribe was annoying:lol:

 

[DeletedUser]

Raid did take the first blow from ??? and destroyed quiet a few nukes until nob launched their offensive against ??? mate...in my eyes yall are about equal atm...or at least yall seem equal according to the war effort put in this war vs ???...just cuz you stepped in to help your allies doesnt mean they couldnt have handled the situation by themselves in the longer war which would have proceeded...

You should have seen their crys for help and they were losing the war until we stepped in.

 

[DeletedUser]

We all know of NOB!!'s war ability & also there ability to flaunt it, & I take nothing away from this in any way, you have done excellent taking out ???.

There is something you must consider though,

When Raid went against V, V were a tribe twice there size & obviously lost a lot of troops, fighting to a nobling standstill, with both frontiers stacked, When Rx4u got involved, there were little troops up in those k's cause they were supporting the Raid frontier, so got an easy walkover.

When ??? launched on Raid, yes they were half their size, but for two reasons, it is not all it seems.

Firstly, Raid troops were very low from sending offensive at V, & defensive troops were on the V borders.

So ??? met little resistance because Raid's troops weren't located there, & Raid couldn't attack back, from low troop numbers & troops not located there.

They also targeted inactives, & yes you should always deal with inactives, but it takes time.

By the time they got arranged enough on the ??? border, NOB!! decided to get involved a day or so later.

Yes NOB!! you have done excellent, but Raid had good reason not to put up the best fight they are capable of, because they weren't in the best shape after war.

Just my opinion, but surely you can see it has logic,

Lumo/Birdie

 

[DeletedUser]

lumo/velibor - Not quite sure why you spend so much time defending ~RAID~ on this thread... I think they are able to make their own 'excuses' if they feel any are needed.

Why have NOB!! done so well? Our front-line guys can fight as well on the offence as they can on the defence, (you, of all people should know that) and our back-line guys put the support in when and where it's needed.

 

[DeletedUser]

We are not defending them, it just seems that these forums are nob orientated & no other opinion is allowed, so myself & velibor are merely looking at all aspects of things & putting across an opinion that isn't focused on making NOB!! look like the only decent thing on world 39.

Yes your tribe knows exactly what its doing offensively, although if you remember we did clear over half of Laz oglu's villages in the war & had them all tabbed so we knew exactly which were clear.

Yes you did win the war against us, even if you put down the tribe participation incorrectly, & I am not questioning your tribes ability, which is obviously excellent & has been proven.

But I do think these forums for world 39 need a different point of view, not just nob's

 

[DeletedUser78112]

@ LUMO its clear your defending ~RAID~.
at the laz oglu part - yous cleared alot of his villages yes but its was a 4 mill tribe to a 1 mill player and most of the bigger players are 100 hours away from LAZ, when support arrived he himself went on the offensive and kicked your ass.

 

[DeletedUser]

clearing villages doesnt mean taking them does it?

 

[DeletedUser]

You have not won the battle for the forums, dont worry me & veli will keep you on your toes here :icon_wink:

Anyway in war we were low on nobles at the time yes & you did beat us, but consider your size to us at the time

21million to 5

& plus we had only 3million of our 5 in K83 & around there

Anyway its all history & I think we have talked enough on this matter

I am not defending raid, I just think you should acknowledge all points of view

Be open minded

I can safely say all of world 39 respects you in NOB!!, but other people matter as well

Not taking anything away from you, just saying, everyone has the right to an opinion

 

[Tbongzat]

You have not won the battle for the forums, dont worry me & veli will keep you on your toes here :icon_wink:

Anyway in war we were low on nobles at the time yes & you did beat us, but consider your size to us at the time

21million to 5

& plus we had only 3million of our 5 in K83 & around there

Anyway its all history & I think we have talked enough on this matter

I am not defending raid, I just think you should acknowledge all points of view

Be open minded

I can safely say all of world 39 respects you in NOB!!, but other people matter as well

Not taking anything away from you, just saying, everyone has the right to an opinion

Size is no excuse, if it was, NOB would have died when they launched in CIALIS.

14 million vs 2 million

& plus NOB only had 400K of their 2M in K75 and 85.

Anyway its all history & I think I just made you look stupid.

I'm not defending NOB, I just think you should think before you type.

Be smart.

I can safely say all of world 39 thinks ??? is a joke.

Not taking anything away from you, just saying, NOB's opinion is more interesting.

 

[velibor]

Size is no excuse, if it was, NOB would have died when they launched in CIALIS.

14 million vs 2 million

& plus NOB only had 400K of their 2M in K75 and 85.

Anyway its all history & I think I just made you look stupid.

I'm not defending NOB, I just think you should think before you type.

Be smart.

I can safely say all of world 39 thinks ??? is a joke.

Not taking anything away from you, just saying, NOB's opinion is more interesting.

You cant compare warring vs nob and warring vs cialis in anyway mate...nob is a tribe 5x our size which beat cialis -a tribe 7x their size- and cialis was a tribe of 300million 100k players who didnt know how to properly design a nuke... :/

As for the Raid comments...im not defending them...im just stating the obvious...In my eyes Raid deserves just as much credit for taking ??? down as Nob!! cuz while they were breaking trough ???'s defense nob!! was plundering defenseless land...

As for "raid's cries for help"...no pic no proof... i doubt Raid would beg anyone for their help in a war

 

[2004 Artemis]

I'd just like to interject that NOB!! isn't the only tribe to maintain a large forum presence. I'd say between Billy and myself (and that weird reject TDE guy), we have it fairly well covered :icon_wink:

 

[velibor]

i agree with this statement fully, better yet its a FACT, Rx4U won -V-, ~RAID~ done what? nothing really

NOB!! is winning the war with ???, ~RAID~ done what? nothing really,

and JOKER admits they only launched the day before? but maybe it was the day after our decleration? im not sure TBH but still ~RAID has done little in there last 2 wars :icon_rolleyes:

ok dude do you want me to be completely honest with you? If so then dont take offense to my oppinion...

There are 3 reasons alliances are made, 1 out of friendship, 2 cuz it benefits you, and 3 out of fear...

1. from your tribe's comments on here its clear yall arent that friendly with raid
2. if raid are as weak as you say they are i dont see how an alliance with them benefits you...
which leaves only #3...

As i said before i mean no offense im just proving my point.

 

[DeletedUser]

Why must they have 2 reasons to be allied with ~RAID~?