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Something this frustrating... Really drives me, I must admit. i do some of my best writing a little bit angry. I realize in advance, some people might not care. But when someone does something this... dumb. There's really no other word for it. When someone does something like this, I don't know what else to do but have them weighed and measured in the court of public opinion. Have at 'er!
A few days back, my coplayer noticed that someone in GTC had made noble claims on villages about a 60 hour drive from them, and directly beside me. These were my farms, and he actually initially assumed that the claims had been made in error. They were just too weird. So he had this mail conversation:
[SPOIL]
Well unfortunately, there was no talking to either Geani or Saggy, our dukes. They were out for the week. Their words, not mine. I'll post that later. I still had no idea what was going on, but I did know that I didn't like it. They players in question, ioji.1968 and ditzah are hopelessly inactive and this situation just didn't make sense. At this point, I'll admit maybe we didn't handle this the best way possible, but we renobled these vills.
A few days later, Marcus finally caught Geani, back from her trip:
[SPOIL]
Note here, make D for 34
Oooh! Bazinga!
She refers to it as "her core" more on that later.
Lots here. Shaggy was distracted, more on that later. Also, note, This isn't the first time it was said, nor the last, but the point here was that
See.... Geani did this to me too. You disagree with her and she hoists responsibility to someone else. Leadery, no? She talked more anyway:
Remember earlier, when I said to remember this? How do D troops bash?
So GTC is a tribe full of Old World Heroes from Romania, who can't seem to play here. They're inactive, but that's OK, because Geani has a standing sit with all of them and does all their work for them. Which she then uses to bash for her. With D troops. I did not just make that up. it's all there.
Ooooh. There's the rub. Is using sat accounts to noble barbs and build troops to bash for you bannable? I'll let the admins decide.
Just to recap:
Marcus: Work with us
Geani: You aren't enough, I need my Romanian inactives to help you.
Well of course it did. GotRob was full.
Hear that GTC? From Geani's mouth. you are inactives and quitters.
I didn't actually have this conversation, but i was added to the conversation before it happened, and have this in my skype box right now. My apologies to Marcus, for not asking him in advance if I could make this post. But i am annoyed. And I do my best writing angry, remember? I had a discussion with him though, and I was of the opinion that possibly Geani had set us up. I mean, the villages in question were not actually near 34, nothing about this made sense. I had actually thought that it was possible that Geani had pushed this so that she could see our reaction. After this, I guess I just no longer respect her intelligence enough for that. I don't think she was devious enough for that. I think she honestly thought that this was a good idea.
Later, I had a conversation With Shaggy:
[SPOIL]
Not answering my question should have been my first hint he was angry.
Well, now that we can all see what was written, does anyone understand what she was doing?
I still stand by this. What would you do if your villages were suddenly surrounded by grey padlocks owned by 15k point people three continents away, and no one told you about it?
Wasn't me. Just saying. If people over here wanted inactive low point neighbors, they should have got them.
Still don't know it.
She really did, read above.
Oh really? So we're nobling barbs 3 k's away in my cluster for fun?
From his own mouth: He was gone for a week.
Thank you. It's probably the only time you agreed with me.
"noob" is noob on fire. It is an account coplayed by at least two people. I think maybe three. For the record. Barb is a wonderful person and I like her. All the relations I've had with her have been friendly and nothing I say in any way should be taken against her. Sling, on the other hand is the guy that dissolved ONE on a whim. i don't dislike him personally, but I wouldn't trust him to lead either. more on that later. The thing to take away right now is: Someone told noob that GTC was going to noble barbs beside me Why they couldn't tell me, dunno.
Well.... It is a farm gone. And with some of them having 0 growth for 7 days, it'll have a nice red warehouse I can't pillage. The thing is, I wouldn't mind having a competent neighbor or two, not to belittle my current neighbors, but the more the merrier. I just couldn't see this working out well for anyone.
I see reading this now, he meant players from the core, not players that are any good. Like I had originally read it. my bad.
PLEASE! PLEASE tell me your reason! You just said we aren't warring 34, even though Geani did. So why are you nobling barbs and building a front! PLEASE TELL MEEEEE!
Real stats. Not even making that up.
Oh. My. God.
I lied, he agreed twice. Here is where he said that the inactive was inactive. I almost thought we were making progress.
Yay!
D'aww
And here it comes:
BAZINGA! We are having problems with 34, so we are making a front. Just in case. I don't know how what I did at all affected the conflict with 34. but hey. Bazinga anyway.
Read: No. but I realize that I'm not getting anywhere with this.
He really didn't know what that meant.
See? I said I like her.
One minute of notice, then dissolution, then scramble scramble scramble. Because Sling is a great leader.
I make a point of this later. Good op participation doesn't mean a good leader. Good players do not always make good leaders. I'm sure we all know examples.
He knows there's at least two people on there.
See? Confirmation.
Yes, in his head, I'm sure the minute lasted several hours.
My point there being that noob on fire actually had the same participation as we did in the op in question. Every time he talked about respect, he talked about op participation. What he really meant was that they were online on Skype at the same time and he just likes her.
I really meant that.
What he said!
Where the heck did you see that in what I just wrote? And I thought you knew Noob wasn't a person?
I reminded him.
PLEASE TELL MEEEEE!
Again.
I think I was respectful. Sure my cations now demonstrate some of my thoughts. But even leaders need to take criticism and run with it. You sir, have a massive ego. I do too, don't get me wrong. But if someone disagreeing with you in a respectful manner is too much, there's a problem.
This is where I kinda gave up, and started trolling. When someone says I'm not welcome, good to know.
NOOB ISN"T A PERSON! I like Barb. I don't think Sling should lead. What part of that is too complicated?! If he doesn't have privs like you said, GREAT! Why are we still on this?!
Who is this 'sleeeeng' you speak of?
You don't like that I'm saying i like barb, but that the account shouldn't have privs, because a coplayer on the account has a history of dissolving his tribe. And that would especially suck here because your inactives wouldn't be able to get back in.
Really... Would like to move on.
He has a hard time letting go. Tunnel vision. I say we have a communication problem... He says: Yeah, I was gone. But you shouldn't have done what you did.
I agree, Ok. Maybe we shouldn't have done that.... But about that communication problem...
WHO? Ok. Yeah. We nobled two 2.5k villas that we have since grown larger than the intended player's largest village. You tell me who all was hurt by an inactive not nobling a farm barb near a player who is active. The inactive player? Sure. He's down a noble and some time. Who else? A lot of us. Diva.
So uh.... that's Barb, from noob on fire. She didn't know about it. And there's another guy saying take it. Weird.
Hey barb.... If you knew about this, now would be a great time to speak up?
"Barb: I don't know the full story here." Weird. So you didn't ask for this, like Shaggy said you did? And you didn' know about it, like Shaggy said you did. Weird. I believe barb, by the way. Moving on:
I didn't ban anyone. No one named Dark was involved. And if he had vills claimed, Shaggy... you deleted them. I don't have privs!
PLEASE TELL MEEEE!
And this is where I'm booted.
LOL. LOLOLOLOLOL. That last line. Should go down. in history.[/SPOIL]
But anyway. That was therapeutic. I feel better.
A few days back, my coplayer noticed that someone in GTC had made noble claims on villages about a 60 hour drive from them, and directly beside me. These were my farms, and he actually initially assumed that the claims had been made in error. They were just too weird. So he had this mail conversation:
[SPOIL]
[/SPOIL]
Well unfortunately, there was no talking to either Geani or Saggy, our dukes. They were out for the week. Their words, not mine. I'll post that later. I still had no idea what was going on, but I did know that I didn't like it. They players in question, ioji.1968 and ditzah are hopelessly inactive and this situation just didn't make sense. At this point, I'll admit maybe we didn't handle this the best way possible, but we renobled these vills.
A few days later, Marcus finally caught Geani, back from her trip:
[SPOIL]
Note here, make D for 34
Oooh! Bazinga!
[5/16/2012 4:21:05 PM] Marcus McCloud: Okay, thats nice
[5/16/2012 4:21:07 PM] geani29: aha
[5/16/2012 4:22:10 PM] Marcus McCloud: The reason I got annoyed was because we (mostly Gear) have put a lot of effort into creating this area which we are currently farming thoroughly, and we weren't asked or considered before this move went ahead
[5/16/2012 4:22:41 PM] Marcus McCloud: Personally, I think that the northeastern players know where the extra villages are needed most - where -34- are strongest, weakest etc
[5/16/2012 4:23:21 PM] Marcus McCloud: For example, I would have boasted knowing Mutley's online times pretty precisely if it weren't for the fact that he's gone inactive
[5/16/2012 4:23:26 PM] geani29: you 2 want to play alone then?
[5/16/2012 4:23:29 PM] geani29: go play solitaire, ok?
[5/16/2012 4:23:34 PM] geani29: we are a tribe
[5/16/2012 4:23:44 PM] Marcus McCloud: No, I want to play in a tribe that utilises it's players to it's best
[5/16/2012 4:23:46 PM] geani29: if you are alone there, you wont survive
[5/16/2012 4:23:54 PM] geani29: I will move all my k 45 core tthere
She refers to it as "her core" more on that later.
Lots here. Shaggy was distracted, more on that later. Also, note, This isn't the first time it was said, nor the last, but the point here was that
See.... Geani did this to me too. You disagree with her and she hoists responsibility to someone else. Leadery, no? She talked more anyway:
Remember earlier, when I said to remember this? How do D troops bash?
[5/16/2012 4:27:16 PM] Marcus McCloud: ?
[5/16/2012 4:28:23 PM] Marcus McCloud: I've talked to Jamie a few days ago
[5/16/2012 4:28:28 PM] Marcus McCloud: Expressed my side
[5/16/2012 4:28:46 PM] geani29: and what he said?
[5/16/2012 4:28:48 PM] geani29: he agrees?
[5/16/2012 4:30:04 PM] Marcus McCloud: [Sunday, May 13, 2012 11:30 AM] JamieRed: <<< yeah, should have told you first
[5/16/2012 4:30:16 PM] Marcus McCloud: That's my point that pissed me off
[5/16/2012 4:30:24 PM] Marcus McCloud: And he agrees with that
[5/16/2012 4:31:46 PM] Marcus McCloud: I'd happily stack these guys if anything goes down with -34-
[5/16/2012 4:31:52 PM] Marcus McCloud: Morale would kill -34-
[5/16/2012 4:32:47 PM] geani29: i agree with your point
[5/16/2012 4:32:58 PM] geani29: not with you attacking them
[5/16/2012 4:33:07 PM] geani29: you know what Gtc is?
Here it comes...
[5/16/2012 4:34:25 PM] Marcus McCloud: I don't know the full in's and out's but an "academy" tribe, something I would normally associate with inactives and small players who don't make the cut
[5/16/2012 4:34:37 PM] Marcus McCloud: Internals...
[5/16/2012 4:36:16 PM] geani29: really
[5/16/2012 4:36:21 PM] geani29: we come from gtc
[5/16/2012 4:36:37 PM] geani29: we had gtc 4 years on ro server
[5/16/2012 4:36:58 PM] geani29: we are over 25 romanians here
[5/16/2012 4:37:10 PM] geani29: those 2 small guys are romanians
[5/16/2012 4:37:17 PM] geani29: you understand now?
[5/16/2012 4:37:23 PM] geani29: I am gtc
[5/16/2012 4:37:41 PM] geani29: gtc is our good and our recruitment, when need it
[5/16/2012 4:37:52 PM] geani29: so, if i say something, i know why
[5/16/2012 4:38:15 PM] geani29: i need small players close to 34, cose we have big players there
[5/16/2012 4:38:36 PM] geani29: dont matter they are noobs or not, if i ask them for sitter, and play there, i will get results
[5/16/2012 4:38:46 PM] geani29: like i did before with many acc
[5/16/2012 4:38:47 PM] Marcus McCloud: I checked twstats and ditzah goes inactive for days at a time
[5/16/2012 4:38:52 PM] geani29: no matter
[5/16/2012 4:38:57 PM] geani29: check blashak2 stats
[5/16/2012 4:38:58 PM] Marcus McCloud: Okay, thats true
[5/16/2012 4:39:02 PM] geani29: check razvr6
[5/16/2012 4:39:09 PM] geani29: check nicodim or martianul75
[5/16/2012 4:39:13 PM] geani29: all sat by me
[5/16/2012 4:39:18 PM] geani29: when need it
[5/16/2012 4:39:26 PM] geani29: u understand?
[5/16/2012 4:39:30 PM] geani29: check acarulpaun
[5/16/2012 4:39:32 PM] geani29: etc etc
So GTC is a tribe full of Old World Heroes from Romania, who can't seem to play here. They're inactive, but that's OK, because Geani has a standing sit with all of them and does all their work for them. Which she then uses to bash for her. With D troops. I did not just make that up. it's all there.
[5/16/2012 4:39:43 PM] Marcus McCloud: As long as you're not co-ordinating attacks with each of them...
Ooooh. There's the rub. Is using sat accounts to noble barbs and build troops to bash for you bannable? I'll let the admins decide.
Just to recap:
Marcus: Work with us
Geani: You aren't enough, I need my Romanian inactives to help you.
Well of course it did. GotRob was full.
Hear that GTC? From Geani's mouth. you are inactives and quitters.
[/SPOIL][5/16/2012 4:47:36 PM] Marcus McCloud: Exactly, so anyone is GTC we are basically just using for our own beneift
[5/16/2012 4:48:32 PM] geani29: exactly
[5/16/2012 4:48:37 PM] geani29: finally
[5/16/2012 4:50:24 PM] Marcus McCloud: lol...
[5/16/2012 4:50:40 PM | Edited 4:50:48 PM] Marcus McCloud: Did you get the message from barb about Ride and -34-...?
[5/16/2012 4:51:12 PM] geani29: which message
[5/16/2012 4:51:27 PM] Marcus McCloud: They've been in talks about a merger
[5/16/2012 4:51:32 PM] Marcus McCloud: Thought you lot should know
[5/16/2012 4:51:56 PM] geani29: aa
[5/16/2012 4:52:04 PM] geani29: i know rhat
[5/16/2012 4:52:08 PM] Marcus McCloud: It was news to barb
[5/16/2012 4:52:18 PM] Marcus McCloud: Hodgy is being very arrogant though (chuckle)
[5/16/2012 4:52:37 PM] geani29:
I didn't actually have this conversation, but i was added to the conversation before it happened, and have this in my skype box right now. My apologies to Marcus, for not asking him in advance if I could make this post. But i am annoyed. And I do my best writing angry, remember? I had a discussion with him though, and I was of the opinion that possibly Geani had set us up. I mean, the villages in question were not actually near 34, nothing about this made sense. I had actually thought that it was possible that Geani had pushed this so that she could see our reaction. After this, I guess I just no longer respect her intelligence enough for that. I don't think she was devious enough for that. I think she honestly thought that this was a good idea.
Later, I had a conversation With Shaggy:
[SPOIL]
Not answering my question should have been my first hint he was angry.
Well, now that we can all see what was written, does anyone understand what she was doing?
I still stand by this. What would you do if your villages were suddenly surrounded by grey padlocks owned by 15k point people three continents away, and no one told you about it?
Wasn't me. Just saying. If people over here wanted inactive low point neighbors, they should have got them.
Still don't know it.
She really did, read above.
Oh really? So we're nobling barbs 3 k's away in my cluster for fun?
From his own mouth: He was gone for a week.
Thank you. It's probably the only time you agreed with me.
"noob" is noob on fire. It is an account coplayed by at least two people. I think maybe three. For the record. Barb is a wonderful person and I like her. All the relations I've had with her have been friendly and nothing I say in any way should be taken against her. Sling, on the other hand is the guy that dissolved ONE on a whim. i don't dislike him personally, but I wouldn't trust him to lead either. more on that later. The thing to take away right now is: Someone told noob that GTC was going to noble barbs beside me Why they couldn't tell me, dunno.
Well.... It is a farm gone. And with some of them having 0 growth for 7 days, it'll have a nice red warehouse I can't pillage. The thing is, I wouldn't mind having a competent neighbor or two, not to belittle my current neighbors, but the more the merrier. I just couldn't see this working out well for anyone.
I see reading this now, he meant players from the core, not players that are any good. Like I had originally read it. my bad.
PLEASE! PLEASE tell me your reason! You just said we aren't warring 34, even though Geani did. So why are you nobling barbs and building a front! PLEASE TELL MEEEEE!
Real stats. Not even making that up.
Oh. My. God.
I lied, he agreed twice. Here is where he said that the inactive was inactive. I almost thought we were making progress.
Yay!
D'aww
And here it comes:
BAZINGA! We are having problems with 34, so we are making a front. Just in case. I don't know how what I did at all affected the conflict with 34. but hey. Bazinga anyway.
Read: No. but I realize that I'm not getting anywhere with this.
He really didn't know what that meant.
See? I said I like her.
One minute of notice, then dissolution, then scramble scramble scramble. Because Sling is a great leader.
I make a point of this later. Good op participation doesn't mean a good leader. Good players do not always make good leaders. I'm sure we all know examples.
He knows there's at least two people on there.
See? Confirmation.
Yes, in his head, I'm sure the minute lasted several hours.
My point there being that noob on fire actually had the same participation as we did in the op in question. Every time he talked about respect, he talked about op participation. What he really meant was that they were online on Skype at the same time and he just likes her.
I really meant that.
What he said!
Where the heck did you see that in what I just wrote? And I thought you knew Noob wasn't a person?
I reminded him.
PLEASE TELL MEEEEE!
Again.
I think I was respectful. Sure my cations now demonstrate some of my thoughts. But even leaders need to take criticism and run with it. You sir, have a massive ego. I do too, don't get me wrong. But if someone disagreeing with you in a respectful manner is too much, there's a problem.
This is where I kinda gave up, and started trolling. When someone says I'm not welcome, good to know.
NOOB ISN"T A PERSON! I like Barb. I don't think Sling should lead. What part of that is too complicated?! If he doesn't have privs like you said, GREAT! Why are we still on this?!
Who is this 'sleeeeng' you speak of?
You don't like that I'm saying i like barb, but that the account shouldn't have privs, because a coplayer on the account has a history of dissolving his tribe. And that would especially suck here because your inactives wouldn't be able to get back in.
Really... Would like to move on.
He has a hard time letting go. Tunnel vision. I say we have a communication problem... He says: Yeah, I was gone. But you shouldn't have done what you did.
I agree, Ok. Maybe we shouldn't have done that.... But about that communication problem...
WHO? Ok. Yeah. We nobled two 2.5k villas that we have since grown larger than the intended player's largest village. You tell me who all was hurt by an inactive not nobling a farm barb near a player who is active. The inactive player? Sure. He's down a noble and some time. Who else? A lot of us. Diva.
But not me.... About that communication problem....
Well.... He wasn't in the chat either. Neither were you, or Geani, or any of the barons, or anyone other than Sockit actually. This is what was actually in the tribe chat though:
So uh.... that's Barb, from noob on fire. She didn't know about it. And there's another guy saying take it. Weird.
Hey barb.... If you knew about this, now would be a great time to speak up?
"Barb: I don't know the full story here." Weird. So you didn't ask for this, like Shaggy said you did? And you didn' know about it, like Shaggy said you did. Weird. I believe barb, by the way. Moving on:
I didn't ban anyone. No one named Dark was involved. And if he had vills claimed, Shaggy... you deleted them. I don't have privs!
PLEASE TELL MEEEE!
And this is where I'm booted.
LOL. LOLOLOLOLOL. That last line. Should go down. in history.[/SPOIL]
But anyway. That was therapeutic. I feel better.
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