Not that it wouldn't be interesting to see happen, and not that I am judging the actions of traitors (this is a game after all) I'm just laying out what I believe most people on both sides of the world would universally consider a traitor to be. If you still believe I am wrong please correct me, and if you think I am spot on just ignore my points completely.. not that you would do that though.
As I have no idea of the diplomacy between the WA tribes, it is hard to comment on that. From the outside, unless there was some type of agreement that all the WA tribes would never declare on any of the others, I don't see a declaration of war as a betrayal. Once the goals of the alliance have been achieved, each tribe has to reevaluate their position. If a tribe decides it makes sense to declare on another tribe, that is part of the game.
For those who doesn't bother to read a long post about how to build towers from shiny crap, here is the essence of his previous message:
Whatever tribe is leaving BoH/HaV/Wisdom/Eastern Losers, that's treachery, whatever tribe is leaving another WA partner, that's Tribal Wars.
As for SA, you couldn't be worse.
As for the endgame, you couldn't be worse.
Still owe us two answers...
- In regards of your endless whining about players 'betraying' your side, how could that happen that [BA] never had a single player joining to a hostile (or actually, any) tribe? Clearly, hostile propaganda always pictured [BA] as to be the worse side in any war, with less skills and a terrible leadership...
- In regards of your whining about [BA] not fighting hard enough, how could that happen that [BA] gathered about the same amount of ODA than the three biggest, best ranked, hostile tribes together, while all three were reported to be the best killing machine of this world?
With your insulting, condescending posts, I don’t owe you anything. After having you minimize and misrepresent my previous post, my initial response was going to be to ignore yours, but I decide to try to respond to your questions.
How do I answer your first point? I have no idea what motivates your tribemates to stay in BA, nor do I know what motivated the players who switched sides. MOJO players I can understand, both our tribes had a lot of hostility towards the other tribe. That, combined with a desire for self-preservation, made it an easy choice for some. They were part of the Brotherhood, so players in the Brotherhood have more of a right than I do to have a problem with what they did. As to why your allies haven’t turned on you, at this point, why would they? Strategically, so far it hasn’t made sense to declare on you. Having you as an ally makes their job easier.
In regards to your second point, who ever said BA didn't fight hard enough? You must have a guilty conscience. As many have pointed out, Wise S was the more active tribe when it came to ODA. Why didn't you add in their ODA?
If you were on the EA side, take a second and think about why BA's ODA is so high compared to other tribes. I am sure you can come up with a lot of reasons why BA's ODA is higher than the other tribes in question. I will give you some of my thoughts:
The game is a lot different than it was when the war started. Nobles are a lot cheaper, so players can expand a lot quicker than earlier in the game. The more villages you have, the more nukes you can have, and obviously that allows you to gain ODA quicker. ODA is gained at a much faster pace than when the sides were closer. While it is true that BoH can also build nobles quicker, due to being outnumbered by more than 3-1, a larger number of villages have to be defensive.
The most valuable commodity in the game is time. If you only have a few hours a day to play, most of your time is spent responding to attacks. Due to time constraints, it isn’t always possible to launch attacks.
BA is on a side that outnumbers their opponent almost 4-1. Even if ¾ of your villages were offensive ones, you’d still have enough defensive villages to defend against attacks.
If you look at ODD, BoH has a much higher ODD than BA. BoH has been around for less than a year. It is hard to have a high ODA when you have to spend most of your time responding to attacks, and building defensive villages. BoH is under attack from 3 of the 4 largest tribes in this world. If it was a 1 on 1 war vs. only BA, the numbers would be a lot closer.
I am not making excuses, I am only pointing out that there is a lot more to the numbers and why they are what they are. It would be interesting to compare the ODA numbers of all the tribes in the first 6 months of the war. That would be a more accurate representation of the levels of offensive activity, before the sides were so uneven.