DeletedUser
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Opinions on it for this world?
(not right away but like once you get a handful of villages)
(not right away but like once you get a handful of villages)
sp.ag
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I have always used it in some form so my opinion would be biased. I just hate the flexibility of having swords and the build time.
DeletedUser103944
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Once you get a handful of villages like you said, I prefer HC/Spear and a few swords for sniping purposes. The 2 benefits associated with a HC/Spear build is they take less time to build, and you can send faster support, perfect for frontlines. The disadvantage is farm space for farm space, the sword is a better unit than the HC.
DeletedUser
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I was referring to the offensive HC build
DeletedUser105718
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It depends on how well you can use it. Usually comes with some sort of weird strategies like going 2:1 O
just to equal out what you can do with your Offensive troops. Also, the way I see. Once you start attacking you are weakening both Off and Def troops.
just to equal out what you can do with your Offensive troops. Also, the way I see. Once you start attacking you are weakening both Off and Def troops.Ripfin
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actually I use HC for noble villages, why? because they will send some offense with my nobles and defense when my nobles take the village, as to this world to be honest replacing the LC with HC is a personal choice, since it is slightly pricier, but you have the added effect of having defense also with your nukes.
DeletedUser105718
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Very weak defense though.
DeletedUser
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Ripkin, if someone is timing to noble the village miliseconds after you take it, it's doubtful a handful of HC will stop him. And if you reply saying it'll be more than a handful then you're just being silly and stealing wayyy too much farm space from your offensive nuke weakening it considerably.
DeletedUser
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Hc strong against swords as attacker.but i dont think it's a wise to build HC in your offensive villages,much more in time of war.
Ripfin
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well a HC/noble village will have 3K HC along with over 500 (almost 600) spear and 1k scouts (I love scouts) so they can definitely put up a better defense then any other noble nuke.
also a HC noble nuke gives you a place to send all that extra iron too.
also a HC noble nuke gives you a place to send all that extra iron too.
DeletedUser
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I was bored as all get out on W60 towards the end of my time there, and converted all my offense to HC nukes. I suppose the only good point was that if I happened to lose a nuke at home defending, I took out more of the attackers' troops than with just a normal LC nuke.
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HC Offensive strength of 150 divided by population of 6 = 25
LC Offensive strength of 130 divided by population of 4 = 32.5
1 HC takes 2x as long to build as 1 LC. I want to say that I did 2k HC vs 3k LC, so it also took longer to build.
I think I'll stick to LC in my nukes. Ashoka did bring up a nice point in another thread of having 300 or so HC in O villages for sniping purposes, and I think that's a pretty neat idea.
I am a fan of SP/HC for defense... builds faster and travels faster, although it's not quite as strong as a SP/SW/HC build. I think the pros make up for the cons of it though.
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HC Offensive strength of 150 divided by population of 6 = 25
LC Offensive strength of 130 divided by population of 4 = 32.5
1 HC takes 2x as long to build as 1 LC. I want to say that I did 2k HC vs 3k LC, so it also took longer to build.
I think I'll stick to LC in my nukes. Ashoka did bring up a nice point in another thread of having 300 or so HC in O villages for sniping purposes, and I think that's a pretty neat idea.
I am a fan of SP/HC for defense... builds faster and travels faster, although it's not quite as strong as a SP/SW/HC build. I think the pros make up for the cons of it though.
DeletedUser105718
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In the early game, it's always better to have sp/sw/hc if at all possible.
DeletedUser
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You pretty much have to start out with SP/SW as smithy/stable isn't high enough for a while to research HC. But what can I say? I just have an unreasonable hatred of swords. Once I can build HC, I won't build swords any more.
DeletedUser
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On frontline HC nukes are good. but due to the cost factor they are kind of expensive in nohaul world. With farming u can get a lot of resources.
DeletedUser
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zzzzzzzzzzzz lol all to there own play.
DeletedUser83995
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See this makes more sense the your post in the other thread and i actually dont mind this idea at all.
In the other thread you where making it sound like all your nukes have HC in it which would be pointless and stupid. But making your noble nuke HC isnt a bad idea as chances are your sending a LC nuke infront of it so attack strength wont be as important. Although even doing it this way if you do it for Defense it would only be useful if you only send axes with 1st noble and loaded up your HC in the last noble other wise you defeat the purpose of making a defensive nuke train if you cant defend a recap.
DeletedUser
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builds slower, im sure it costs more, and it does less damage, this is no 15 tech world so not a fan, you can always use hc in your first nuke but meh
DeletedUser
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As me pirate bucco said! HC strategy shines in tech worlds, since ye can uniform yer researches n' yer able ta have lv3 D troops in all vills. With simple tech settings, it'd be bettarrr ta just stick with the classical way o' things n' use HC in D builds strictly
Therin
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^ This; full HC strat works best on 15 tech worlds. It's still viable here, but you'll have issues with the amount of iron required due to the no hauls. I wouldn't advise going for the HC O villages for that reason, but HC D is always good.
DeletedUser
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I can see why you would make HC noble trains but I think that if you are really worried that the village will be recapped then it is probably best to just time support behind the train. IMO that is more efficient than HC trains. It also means that if they do recap you still have a train to try again with where as with an HC train the HC would have died in the recap and you are left with 3 nobles with out any troops to send them with.
But like I said, thats my opinion and no one strategy is the right strategy.
