Ok let's get a few things straight.
you continually go on about the players in MW being inactive and in this war their stats shouldn't count.
to get things straight...
1. continually? i posted 1 time
2. that single post was in reply to pain, not you
3. i just logged on to a sit i have in mw, there is NO war between mw and ckd
Ongoing wars of your tribe@itude Adjustment » Show statistics
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Multiple WargasmsEnemy
@ITUDE
State of Fear
Atti2ude (disbanded)Beginning of the war
on 18.02. at 15:20:03
Duration of war
191 days 7:52:06
» Offer peace » Invite a tribe to your side
that is the only current mw war
if you wish to post stats against mw after the merge, by all means do so, if it bothered me, i would disband the tribe
but do not expect any pats on the back
we stopped posting stats against ~@~ a very long time ago
apparently they still exist, apparently we are technically still at war, but it would have been silly of us to update the stats a month ago and even sillier to tie them in with our Fear? stats
i always wished you had declared your own war instead of joining theirs
lastly, i saw that you entered the ckd war against hr, so idk why pain wants to include mw stats but not fear? stats in his war stats, except again, he is obviously trying to present a slanted view by padding his stats with stats against a tribe that is not active and is not even part of the war
if fear were up by 7 caps against hr, i am certain he would have remembered to include you
i assume since you are down 7, that is why you were left out
obviously i never padded our stats and instead kept inactive accounts in the tribe, even 60 days into the sit
however, obviously a lot of the accounts that bordered you had serious activity issues which all took place at the same time
that time was when we were winning
to assume that they were winning, yet quit because of attacks from fear, is obviously insane
they went inactive, your stats went from losing to winning
it is not the reverse order
your stats did not go from losing to winning,
then our frontlines mates went inactive when you began winning
that never happened
it might not be clear to you personally, i was able to get some sits from time to time and a few people helped with the sits we had when we had them
but obviously our explanation is much more reasonable than the claim that our players went inactive because of incomings from fear even though we were winning
obviously, you did not make realbean quit, i do not expect you would make that claim cuz you know you did not make him quit, though he obviously added to your stats
dagorith, i could see how you think you made him quit
dagorith was never able to be active enough to be frontline, but that is where he found himself no matter what he did
if he stayed in ~@~, he was frontline, if he joined mw he was frontline, if he joined fear, he was frontline
his location required more activity than he was capable of, no matter who was his enemy
he quit about the time you declared
he had been under heavy fire for a while from ~@~ before that point
he made it clear he could not continue before you declared
you declared and focused on him precisely because of said positioning, good move on your part, respect, but he was already mostly sat (when he could remember to set a sitter) till we could get a new player on the account
we got 2 co-players to come on the account
you did in fact make them quit
they did not set a sitter as you well know
meb is a somewhat similar story, as is boylupot except that in boylupot's case, after losing all his villages near you, he stuck with it and learned to fight as ex will confirm
for the record, i do not believe ppauls is trying to confuse things, i believe he is sharing his honest perspective based on his personal experience and i have no issue with that
however, yagger is in position to have a clearer perspective on what happened regarding his mates, he knows the full story of dagorith and meb and boylupot and realbean, not just an outsider perspective
he has more and better info to base his perspective on
You are now on the prathapa account right now, right?
yes, i logged on the account on august 20th and have been sorting the account since, obviously it was barely active for a very long time and there was a lot of work to be done to get the account back into shape
i expect to begin launching attacks very soon
sadly for pain, he will not be my target, obviously this disappoints him greatly as he keeps mentioning i should be attacking him
notice not a single person from hr is questioning my contribution to my tribe, nor does ppauls, nor does any member of ex
all of mw have contributed greatly to the war against the traitors
despite our stats against fear, the first 400 D we sent as support while in hr, 350 D were sent to the traitor front and only 50 to the fear front
obviously, they needed that 350 D much much more than they needed 1k fakes from me
and as everybody who has ever fought me will tell you, fakes play very little role in my war stats, mass fakes is something i never ever do
after support, the next greatest priority for what we could contribute was nukes
i volunteered hundreds of mw nukes to the traitor front despite fear being our traditional target for donated nukes
here is a map of me, the closest fear players to me, and the traitors...
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http://www.twstats.com/en64/index.p...centrey=500&nocache=1&fill=000000&grid=1&kn=1
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show of hands. who thinks i should be attacking the traitors instead of fear? who thinks pain is talking a bunch of shit?
[8/1/2013 5:35:33 PM] Shaun - Haseo/Pain.Carbon: I still want to fight you lol One day maybe on another world or this one
one day, but probably not this world
as much as i would like to oblige you, my time is always limited and i was ready to quit this world
even before your actions, it was clear i would need to continue for at least a short while after the merge
because of the inactivity of mw mates who were frontline with fear, my loyal mates faced a struggle on that front
it was more a struggle with inactivity than with fear itself, but regardless the reason, it is the only time mw ever struggled
i feel responsible to some degree and i feel obligated to loyal mates
to quit while they struggled would not have been honoring my obligations to my loyal mates
further, i have planned for months to co-play lucas, he is not just a tribemate, he is a friend, he tells people he learned english so he could speak with me
after promising him for months that i will co-play him, i am obviously not going to offer to co mystic or amrk instead just because shaun had an issue with decwaaan:lol:
lastly, and you are all welcome to share yours, but in my opinion, if there is anybody in w64 who deserves the chance to go head to head with me before i quit this world, that player clearly seems to be ppauls??
Having said that, it's very interesting to see such a huge war between two big powers.
ty for your post in general (for the record i have no idea who think is or was), regarding this specific line, a battle between ants and ppauls might offer this world something even more interesting than that
rather than 2 "big" powers, 2 (hopefully) "respectable" and "respectful" rivals engaged in (hopefully) a "gentleman's" war
idr ever disrespecting ex in these forums, though i recall several times i spoke on their behalf
idr ex ever disrespecting me in these forums, though i recall several times they have spoken on my behalf
the same is true of tre, though we never fought, i had high hopes if we did
hopes it could be an easily respectable war fought between respectable and respectful rivals
i think ppauls might be better suited than pain or even wicked to provide the kind of battle i personally find the most entertaining
Notice WR hasnt posted since myself and Ascension proved he was a liar? Where did he go? He went silent. I have nothing to hide... like the fact WR's co-player leaked information to fundamental when he took the WR account to MW, while fundamental was in Ex. Yet he remained on the DUKE account of HR despite spying effectively.
i did not notice you had proved that he lied, can you quote it please?
if you wish to discuss the max-burn issue, you will need to quote that, i have no idea what you are referring to
I NEVER attacked fundamentals except for the farms he nobled of mine, that was the SOLE cause of the issues between us. That and the whole ton of shit he posted thinking he was better than everyone and knew everything there was to know about tribal wars. NEVER attacked him. Even our leadership had talked and spoken to him regarding the farms and had told myself and Wicked that if he continued to noble barbs, our farms inside OUR clusters, that we could continue to farm them.
So Ants, get your damn facts right. Post your chats. I'll post more.
i know you and i personally discussed the fundamental issue when it took place and i am not the one who is confused or being confusing
i did not ask if you attacked fundamental or imply that you did
i asked wicked how many times she did
i agree his nobling bonus villages in areas dominated by others was the chief issue
i agree even that hr leadership approved wicked's attacks (though i never agreed with that decision obviously and was livid when i was informed)
but how can you then claim that you had no idea you were about to be fighting him when you had been attacking him for weeks? :icon_rolleyes:
you know damn well that he was invited to mw to buy you
additional time to either repair your relationship or prepare for the fallout
you know that
you know i have chats between you and myself personally that prove you fully understood the situation at the time
yet now you come here and act like i betrayed you by not attacking him despite nobody from mw being anywhere near him, despite the fact he was a loyal mate to us, despite the fact he was attacked daily by hr despite being in mw?
are you still on pain medication?
i am crystal clear on what happened there, everybody in mw is, the facts are perfectly straight...
1. fundamental had made it clear to everybody he was leaving hr if he could not noble bonus villages
2. hr had unwritten policies against nobling bonus villages
3. hr had unwritten policies enforcing the rights of players in area's they dominated
4. mw had no such policies: no matter how much of a k you had, that k was ours, not yours; nobling bonus villages is perfectly acceptable, as long as you have nobles for red dots, which fundamental obviously did (and remind us wicked, who was rank 1 in oda?)
5. hr was not prepared to fight fundamental and the leadership hoped to be able to keep him in the alliance rather than fight him
6. it was agreed that fundamental would be invited to mw to buy time for the relationship to be repaired and for hr to prepare
7. it was agreed several days after he switched tribes that he would not be permitted to noble bonus villages in areas dominated by hr
8. he then stopped nobling in areas dominated by hr
9. wicked continued to send attacks daily
10. fundamental mailed the hr leadership repeatedly
11. fundamental left mw
12. fundamental attacked hr
we did not betray you, he did not betray us, wicked attacked us daily till the day fundamental finally fought back
then i should personally attack fundamental?
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we absolutely did not betray you, we did nothing but buy you all the time possible to prepare
we could have bought you even more time, but you (via wicked) used the time we bought you to attack him, despite him being us (that is how you thanked us) and did not bother to prepare
then you come here and claim we betrayed you cuz i did not attack him?
and you claim you were caught by surprise when the guy wicked had been attacking for weeks finally attacked back?
Pain leaving HR was a surprise to all of us, we also did not expect him to bring this much players.I think pretty much everyone in tri was preparing for a long term war with HR
and he claims hr should not have been caught off guard at all when 20%+ of their mates join the enemy and attack their loyal mates
we should have had plenty of time to get our border stacked
:lol:
just fyi,
after fear on declared on mw (when we were much closer in size and while we were already at war with 2 top 5 tribes and battling 3 more top 10 tribes), we expected fear to be a long term war, even before our frontline went inactive
it might be surprising that fear is still around from your perspective and from pain's, but it is not from mw's
in fact, our position regarding fear
before they declared on us was that they could be rank 2 at the end of the world for all we cared
considering the events taking place when fear joined in the war against mw, it might be surprising that fear did not defeat mw
we were already fighting on every single front we had
and which tribe was first to 20 k's dominance? who had the largest border of any w64 tribe?
http://forum.tribalwars.net/showthr...updating-map&p=6737915&viewfull=1#post6737915
i suspect that is why their previous duke decided to take his chances by declaring on us rather than trying diplomacy:icon_idea:
