I hope it is a glitch

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This conversation is about what I hope is a glitch in the game. I nobled a barb village (my hope was to noble a group of the around tuzain then change there names to happy valentine tuzain well some how he found out I was coming and spiked my targets would have made a great forum post had it worked) anyway I did take one village took a landing hit from tuzain prior to support landing knowing that my enemy dosnt fool around I start my defense. First get those walls going burn thru some premium points crank it up to lvl 17 check smithy lvl 3 spears and swords was very happy about it next on to the flag use a nice 8 percent bonus in the mean time I see my igm telling me he was spiking my targets

well at this point if he knows where I am going he will know when my support is landing. So I go to my toy box aka my inventory screen pull out a 15 percent spear and sword defense bonus supports lands right in front of his nuke he wasn't using a bonus flag yet my flag and event bonus had little affect?


lesss has won

Attacker's luck


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[TD="class: nobg"]22.5%[/TD]
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Morale: 100%

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[TR]
[TH]Attacker:[/TH]
[TH]Tuzain[/TH]
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[TR]
[TD]Origin:[/TD]
[TD]Tiger Is Really Bad Lol (795|764) K77[/TD]
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[TD="width: 35"][/TD]
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[TD="width: 20%"]Quantity:[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-spear hidden, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-sword hidden, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-axe, align: center"]5249[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-archer hidden, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-spy, align: center"]50[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-light, align: center"]2762[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-marcher hidden, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-heavy hidden, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-ram, align: center"]300[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-catapult hidden, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-knight hidden, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-snob hidden, align: center"]0[/TD]
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[TD="width: 20%, align: left"]Losses:[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-spear hidden, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-sword hidden, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-axe, align: center"]5249[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-archer hidden, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-spy, align: center"]50[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-light, align: center"]2762[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-marcher hidden, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-heavy hidden, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-ram, align: center"]300[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-catapult hidden, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-knight hidden, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-snob hidden, align: center"]0[/TD]
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[TH]Defender:[/TH]
[TH]lesss[/TH]
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[TR]
[TD]Destination:[/TD]
[TD]turzains valentine (789|762) K77[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD="width: 20%"]Quantity:[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-spear, align: center"]11928[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-sword, align: center"]1426[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-axe, align: center"]135[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-archer hidden, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-spy, align: center"]1905[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-light hidden, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-marcher hidden, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-heavy, align: center"]3114[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-ram hidden, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-catapult hidden, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-knight hidden, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-snob hidden, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-militia hidden, align: center"][/TD]
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[TD="width: 20%, align: left"]Losses:[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-spear, align: center"]5425[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-sword, align: center"]649[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-axe, align: center"]61[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-archer hidden, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-spy, align: center"]866[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-light hidden, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-marcher hidden, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-heavy, align: center"]1416[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-ram hidden, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-catapult hidden, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-knight hidden, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-snob hidden, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-militia hidden, align: center"][/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]Flag:[/TD]
[TD]+8% Defense strength[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD] Buffs:[/TD]
[TD] Spear: +15% defense power
Sword: +15% defense power[/TD]
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[TH]Damage by rams:[/TH]
[TD="colspan: 2"]The Wall has been damaged and downgraded from level 17 to level 9[/TD]
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so I ran it thru the calculator comes up the same very confused I decide to dig a bit further (when it dosnt make sense I cant just let it go)

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[TD]Rally point (Level 1)

On the rally point your fighters meet. Here you can command your armies.[/TD]
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[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
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It would take 1 more attack like this to defeat all defending troops.
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[TD]Attacker[/TD]
[TD]Units:[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-spear hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-sword hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-axe"]5249[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-archer hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-spy"]50[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-light"]2762[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-marcher hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-heavy hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-ram"]300[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-catapult hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-knight hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-snob hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-militia hidden"][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]752.690[/TD]
[TD]496.170[/TD]
[TD]961.460[/TD]
[TD]17.897[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Losses:[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-spear hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-sword hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-axe"]5249[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-archer hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-spy"]50[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-light"]2762[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-marcher hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-heavy hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-ram"]300[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-catapult hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-knight hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-snob hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-militia hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]752.690[/TD]
[TD]496.170[/TD]
[TD]961.460[/TD]
[TD]17.897[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Defender[/TD]
[TD]Units:[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-spear"]11928[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-sword"]1426[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-axe"]135[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-archer hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-spy"]1905[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-light hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-marcher hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-heavy"]3114[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-ram hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-catapult hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-knight hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-snob hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-militia hidden"][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1.365.330[/TD]
[TD]967.020[/TD]
[TD]2.131.000[/TD]
[TD]35.983[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Losses:[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-spear"]5419[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-sword"]648[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-axe"]61[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-archer hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-spy"]866[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-light hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-marcher hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-heavy"]1415[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-ram hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-catapult hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-knight hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-snob hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-militia hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]620.350[/TD]
[TD]439.390[/TD]
[TD]968.310[/TD]
[TD]16.350[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Damage by rams:The wall has been damaged and downgraded from level 17 to level 7



note simulator pretty close to what happened now watch this I remove the event bonus of 15 percent !!!!!I left all the other settings the same including his moral advantage


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[TD][/TD]
[TD]Rally point (Level 1)

On the rally point your fighters meet. Here you can command your armies.[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
[TABLE="class: vis modemenu, width: 100%"]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="class: selected"][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
It would take 1 more attack like this to defeat all defending troops.
[TABLE="class: vis"]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"][/TD]
[TH][/TH]
[TH][/TH]
[TH][/TH]
[TH][/TH]
[TH][/TH]
[TH][/TH]
[TH][/TH]
[TH][/TH]
[TH][/TH]
[TH="width: 35"][/TH]
[TH="width: 35"][/TH]
[TH="width: 35"][/TH]
[TH="width: 35"]
[/TH]
[TH][/TH]
[TH="width: 35"][/TH]
[TH="width: 35"][/TH]
[TH="width: 35"][/TH]
[TH="width: 35"][/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Attacker[/TD]
[TD]Units:[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-spear hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-sword hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-axe"]5249[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-archer hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-spy"]50[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-light"]2762[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-marcher hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-heavy hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-ram"]300[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-catapult hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-knight hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-snob hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-militia hidden"][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]752.690[/TD]
[TD]496.170[/TD]
[TD]961.460[/TD]
[TD]17.897[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Losses:[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-spear hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-sword hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-axe"]5249[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-archer hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-spy"]50[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-light"]2762[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-marcher hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-heavy hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-ram"]300[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-catapult hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-knight hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-snob hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-militia hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]752.690[/TD]
[TD]496.170[/TD]
[TD]961.460[/TD]
[TD]17.897[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Defender[/TD]
[TD]Units:[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-spear"]11928[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-sword"]1426[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-axe"]135[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-archer hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-spy"]1905[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-light hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-marcher hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-heavy"]3114[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-ram hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-catapult hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-knight hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-snob hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-militia hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]1.365.330[/TD]
[TD]967.020[/TD]
[TD]2.131.000[/TD]
[TD]35.983[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Losses:[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-spear"]4982[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-sword"]596[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-axe"]56[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-archer hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-spy"]796[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-light hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-marcher hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-heavy"]1301[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-ram hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-catapult hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-knight hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-snob hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: unit-item unit-item-militia hidden"]0[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]570.340[/TD]
[TD]403.970[/TD]
[TD]890.300[/TD]
[TD]15.032[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Damage by rams:The wall has been damaged and downgraded from level 17 to level 10



I take a lot less damage to troops and walls I would love to know how that can be ? also I would like to know why we spend premium points on events other than bragging rights to have more damage inflicted on us? are any other players having the same issue if you saved your defense reports and were using events bonuses I would ask you to run it both ways thru your simulator and post the results so we as a tribal wars members know if it is a real glitch or not



thanks lesss
 
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Although I can't post any screenshots I have run through the whole battle and yes the above report is correct.

The trouble with +15% boosts is that yes on a large stack they offer a good bonus, but you need both spears and swords for them to be fully effective. In theory, you get 2k+ spears and a handful of swords, overall for the battle it is minimal but it did save you 1 wall level.

Hope that makes sense, and running it through as it doesnt matter LC 3, axe 3 and rams 2.
 
Don't forget the huge +22.5% luck <3, tuz must have been given a valentines pressie from the TW gods in that calc :P
 
phippsy said:
Although I can't post any screenshots I have run through the whole battle and yes the above report is correct.

The trouble with +15% boosts is that yes on a large stack they offer a good bonus, but you need both spears and swords for them to be fully effective. In theory, you get 2k+ spears and a handful of swords, overall for the battle it is minimal but it did save you 1 wall level.

Hope that makes sense, and running it through as it doesnt matter LC 3, axe 3 and rams 2.
Click to expand...

thank you been sitting here doing it on pen and paper attempting to find out why however it dosnt explain why I did a lot better not using the bonus? I gained troops and walls not using the bonus reran it with you lvls close to the same as above
 
Well i very quickly ran it through to find the attacker research levels (so 3/3/2 could be wrong but it worked for me). I then took out the +15% bonus and wall damage went from 7 to 6, which also fits if you manually add 15% extra spears/swords to your troops.

I ran my report then with luck at 0% and got the report you ran above so that is why i am saying to run your report again and make sure luck is 22.5%
 
phippsy said:
Well i very quickly ran it through to find the attacker research levels (so 3/3/2 could be wrong but it worked for me). I then took out the +15% bonus and wall damage went from 7 to 6, which also fits if you manually add 15% extra spears/swords to your troops.

I ran my report then with luck at 0% and got the report you ran above so that is why i am saying to run your report again and make sure luck is 22.5%
Click to expand...


you are correct I mixed up moral for luck that makes it a lot closer to accurate. that being said thank you and everyone else that mailed me a lot of you I might add for taking your personal time to figure me this out. no matter which side your on tribal wars players still helping each other always impressed me
 
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