If Carlsberg did circulars - it wouldn't be like this

stellro

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lovedinemerald on 03.01. at 16:11
Our tribe has been forced to declare war on GOH, not out of bad relations between our members but, because of a rather trecherous way GOH leadership does business. Seven days ago both Skype and GOH fought the same enemy (Onfire)...our spies from both Onfire and GOH confirm that your tribes have not only made peace but became allies.

Dont you recall that Onfire was the tribe that caused your downfall and made you the shadow of your former glory?

Our sources tell me that leadership and council of Goh has made a deal with Onfire leader (trent) that you shall fight on their side against skype.

The terms of that agreement were:

1.All of GOH is to support frontline Onfire members against Skype Attacks
2.All of GOH is required to attack Skype in an attempt to do as much damage as possible
3.In return GOH Leadership and Council will be granted Onfire membership because they would have earned their trust and showed their devotion and loyalty
4.The remaining survivors from GOH will be split up and nobled between Onfire members.

I am sorry to say, but honestly i pity the members of Goh because they are not given the full truth and used marely as tools by those in power...therefore i will grant safe being and will restrict all skype agression against those members that leave GOH in the next 24 hours. Those that chose to stay in Goh will be treated with same hostility Goh leadership has shown my tribe (Skype).

I repeat once again...you have 24 hours to leave Goh and you will not have any actions taken against you. If you chose to stay you will be marked as parmanent enemy of Skype and we wont rest until your villages have been nobled and your account removed from this world.

I hope you make the right choice and wish you good luck whichever road you chose to take.

Your fellow Skype Duke

Veli
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So to break this down a little......and tell it how it is also......

Just before Xmas I was in talks with siritz about formalising our diplomacy and continuing our war with Onfire - then out of the blue we received a host of attacks from SKYPE members including the below nobles:

007 Incoming Amigos (496|575) K54 4,263 johny-bravo [~GOH~] The Three Amigos [SKYPE] 2011-12-22 21:51:31
09 Hakan Sukur (457|588) K54 9,185 WOMBATDAD [~GOH~] vato loco [SKYPE] 2011-12-28 10:32:24
013 (494|575) K54 4,868 Smoaky [~GOH~] Commander Rourke [SKYPE] 2011-12-30 18:34:23
014 Incoming Amigos (492|558) K54 4,906 gameslayerz2 [~GOH~] The Three Amigos [SKYPE] 2011-12-29 09:28:39

Naturally I try and get answers regarding this:

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Siritz on 23.12. at 15:38
im working today tomorrow tuesday wednesday friday saturday next week, but then im off on holiday so its all gravy baby.

anyways, got to get off, wanna talk to you some more in lines of diplo later if thats okay with you?

Stellro on 23.12. at 15:41
I'm cool for that - lets get xmas out of the way and pick it up from there.....

Incase I dont speak to you before Xmas - all the best ;p

Stellro on 28.12. at 20:48
Care to explain why tonight we have received several attacks from Skype members?

Siritz on 28.12. at 21:12
As far as i am aware, we have no diplomacy. So if people want to grow while waiting for an op. No biggie with me

Stellro on 28.12. at 22:06
Glad I know where we stand

Siritz on 28.12. at 22:09
P.S Nothing i say means anything anyways i am just co-player. I do not know if you and recce have had talks about anything

Stellro on 28.12. at 22:11
Well perhaps that should be the first message sent and not what I have just posted on our forums as your response.....

Siritz on 28.12. at 22:13
Well i don't know. I just check diplomacy. and well your not marked. So perhaps wait till Recce returns
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Not really the basis of attempting diplomacy between tribes or just highlights the sheer lack of communication within SKYPE :icon_eek:

To add to this also - SKYPE use an account belonging to a player called Dogslife in a tribe called lovely and they was offended that because we would not do what this player told us to do within a shared forum of GOH / IBM & Lovely despite refusing to tell us who was really playing the account they have ultimately spat their dummies out and declared on us......FOR A SECOND TIME!!!!

Just for those who do not remember - SKYPE declared on us to "gain favour" with Trent in Onfire - they had an opportunity to continue hitting Onfire and with only ShAve's help stood a chance of winning - now we're too small to be fighting 2 top 20 tribes - we know this - despite all that has gone to pass we have ceased our war with Onfire for this reason and this reason alone.....SKYPE backstabbed us for the second time.....

That does not make us allies with Onfire - that certainly does not mean that GOH Council members would even consider joining Onfire - all it means is we are both fighting SKYPE.....the end.

24 hours are just about to pass - not one player has left and GOH are 2 - 1 up on nobles.

You've gotta hope that Reece comes back soon as your diplomacy sucks without him!!!!!
 

velibor

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I got fans I see :D ps you did lose 1 member...(you forgot to mention the onfire circ about supporting your front lines vs skype sent before this conflict started>>>your "ace in the hole"<<<)
 

stellro

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I got fans I see :D ps you did lose 1 member...(you forgot to mention the onfire circ about supporting your front lines vs skype sent before this conflict started>>>your "ace in the hole"<<<)

Wait a minute - I thought, and as you stated, it was GOH supporting Onfire villages - which is mentioned as one of the reasons that you went to war - so which is it???

Or don't you know!!??

(p.s. - I said not one player had left - an inactive quitting / not restarting is something different :) )
 
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velibor

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Wait a minute - I thought, and as you stated, it was GOH supporting Onfire villages - which is mentioned as one of the reasons that you went to war - so which is it???

Or don't you know!!??

(p.s. - I said not one player had left - an inactive quitting / not restarting is something different :) )

I answered this question in the mail...your attention-whoring will get you on the rim only faster...Goh supported Onfire during skype vs onfire period...then onfire supported Goh (or attempted) a day before we declared...
 

DeletedUser

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It is actually 2-2 nobles, but really no worries!! This gives us more villages in K54 to get at the true enemy Onfire

We have spies in ~Goh~ and Onfire, so you can not lie and say you have no alliance with Onfire

I don't see how sitting an account in a tribe trying to make Goh and alliance actually do an op against the enemy is bad! You guys like to sit back and randomly attack. No wonder Onfire kicked your guy's ass
 
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stellro

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It is actually 2-2 nobles, but really no worries!! This gives us more villages in K54 to get at the true enemy Onfire

We have spies in ~Goh~ and Onfire, so you can not lie and say you have no alliance with Onfire

I don't see how sitting an account in a tribe trying to make Goh and alliance actually do an op against the enemy is bad! You guys like to sit back and randomly attack. No wonder Onfire kicked your guy's ass

Yet again this proves you do not have a spy in GOH - as any member can look at our diplomacy list and confirm this for you :icon_eek:

As for the dogslife scenario - you attempted to dupe us into attacking by using a cover from another tribe - and when this was discovered you couldn't understand our anger......but if this could not be understood - why attempt to hide it in the first place???

Lets face it - SKYPE have just BS'ed their way through this world without actually achieving anything.....
  • Your behind on nobles with Onfire (the supposed true enemy)
  • You declare on a tribe over 1m points below you and take 1 village in 24 hours
  • You send lame circulars
  • You have yet to stand by your word once thus far and never really gained anything from doing so (IBM / Lovely take note!)
  • You hope PITA & ShAve will come to your rescue because lets face it - you can't do it yourselves and your praying ShAve won't take offense from comments already made
  • You get yourself tied up in knots with why your fighting people and are obviously being fed information opposed to aquiring it and confirming its validity
  • Your a toy, a childs plaything :icon_biggrin:

GOH perhaps won't amount to much on this world, we've struggled all along in honesty due to constant wars - but at least we'll continue to play the game, stand by each other and go out smiling....and lets not forget - we're still here - very active and enjoying ourselves :icon_razz:
 

slinkiestwizard

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I got fans I see :D ps you did lose 1 member...(you forgot to mention the onfire circ about supporting your front lines vs skype sent before this conflict started>>>your "ace in the hole"<<<)

LOL a popcorn thread ! With all that support on the front lines there must be a lot of empty villages around :lol: Go Skype
 

DeletedUser

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Yet again this proves you do not have a spy in GOH - as any member can look at our diplomacy list and confirm this for you :icon_eek:

As for the dogslife scenario - you attempted to dupe us into attacking by using a cover from another tribe - and when this was discovered you couldn't understand our anger......but if this could not be understood - why attempt to hide it in the first place???

Lets face it - SKYPE have just BS'ed their way through this world without actually achieving anything.....
  • Your behind on nobles with Onfire (the supposed true enemy)
  • You declare on a tribe over 1m points below you and take 1 village in 24 hours
  • You send lame circulars
  • You have yet to stand by your word once thus far and never really gained anything from doing so (IBM / Lovely take note!)
  • You hope PITA & ShAve will come to your rescue because lets face it - you can't do it yourselves and your praying ShAve won't take offense from comments already made
  • You get yourself tied up in knots with why your fighting people and are obviously being fed information opposed to aquiring it and confirming its validity
  • Your a toy, a childs plaything :icon_biggrin:

GOH perhaps won't amount to much on this world, we've struggled all along in honesty due to constant wars - but at least we'll continue to play the game, stand by each other and go out smiling....and lets not forget - we're still here - very active and enjoying ourselves :icon_razz:

Well with Dogslife account he has attacked Onfire and been attacked by onfire, he pre-nobled re-capped killed nukes all by himself! Better then any ~Goh~ member can take credit for

As for Onfire
[spoil]Side 1:
Tribes: SKYPE
Side 2:
Tribes: OnFire
Players: tecstorm

Timeframe: Forever

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 31
Side 2: 33
Difference: 2

chart


Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 147,992
Side 2: 172,712
Difference: 24,720

chart
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It is really not too bad
[spoil]Side 1:
Tribes: ~GOH~
Side 2:
Tribes: OnFire

Timeframe: Forever

Total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 7
Side 2: 48
Difference: 41

chart


Points value of total conquers against opposite side:

Side 1: 26,629
Side 2: 180,217
Difference: 153,588

chart
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What have you acheived in this world? Nothing other then turtling

Your getting cocky over 24 hours into war. Man nobles take 24 hours for some members. Give it time mate
 
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stellro

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Well with Dogslife account he has attacked Onfire and been attacked by onfire, he pre-nobled re-capped killed nukes all by himself! Better then any ~Goh~ member can take credit for

.....

Your getting cocky over 24 hours into war. Man nobles take 24 hours for some members. Give it time mate

I get cocky regardless, it adds to the fun of the game - SKYPE alone won't defeat us :icon_wink:

After all, it was you lot crying out for others to join in against Onfire......

As for Dogslife - I suppose when your being perma sat by 3 co-players it does help and improve your abilities :icon_rolleyes:
 

DeletedUser

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Dogslife is not perma sat. You know perma sitting someone is against the rules. We sit him when he is under attack and logging offline, he has earned our respect by the way he defended. Your cocky yet have not done anything in any war :D

[spoil]DouPantou today at 11:49
Message sent to Noobs and magnetoo

These are the frontline villages that require support. I know Silverbird has alredy contacted you for some support for his op...

Bull 01 (460|600) K64
OnTheWay2Hell (455|593) K54
Dragoons (452|594) K54
Black Watch (451|593) K54
Allied HQ (450|593) K54
Fusiliers (448|591) K54
Coldstream (456|591) K54
Chief 59 (462|587) K54
WOM3 (458|588) K54
WOM2 (457|587) K54
Essex regiment (449|587) K54
b01. ~GOH~ (493|581) K54

If you can organise the support to be sent withing the attack break, it would be great. Keep in mind that troops will not be able to move until 10 am on Jan 1st Server Time.

If you can support more, let me know.
-DouPantou[/spoil]

I wonder how much support you guys will get. Has not been much yet
 

DeletedUser

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Velibor: As I've said before, you are completely wrong about us supporting OnFire before the war with you started. Of course, when Siritz sent that mail to Stellro and Skype allowing the attacks to go through, we did start talking to OnFire. And yes, that was 2 days before you actually declared. But we NEVER supported OnFire before TTA, loco and Rourke started their attacks against GOH. If you really have spies anywhere, you'd know this. This was the very reason we started talking to OnFire as Stellro stated. Oh, and anyone with even half common sense would never tell us there was a spy in our tribe if it was true ;-) This is another tactic to try and get us to shake out our tribe - not gonna happen. If you really want to keep telling us this, why no proof? Clearly you want us to know about it, so why not prove it? All you have to do is send a post from our forums (Not shared GOH/OnFire forums) and you will get the effect you are seeking.

Lambezz: The fact that you believe we have an alliance with OnFire proves exactly the opposite of your claim that you have spies here. If you really had spies in either tribe, you would know there is no alliance. Either that, or your spy is feeding you false information :) And yes, sitting an account in a tribe that's allied with us is a problem. It was Skype who specifically made the claim "As far as i am aware, we have no diplomacy" (Which was effectively a true statement). This statement was made for the goal of giving you all the right to attack us. If we have no diplomacy, why would we want or allow you to see our shared forums and why would we even think about helping you out in any war, especially if this "no diplomacy" gives you the ethical right to attack?
 

stellro

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Shed loads of support :)

Jimi - I do believe they have spies - but I have yet to see anything posted on here or forwarded by the child that is 3 amigos that proves any such issue within GOH.

None of the info you have has come from a trusted source within GOH - you can't even see our diplomacy list :)
 
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velibor

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dogslife is not perma sat. You know perma sitting someone is against the rules. We sit him when he is under attack and logging offline, he has earned our respect by the way he defended. Your cocky yet have not done anything in any war :d

[spoil]doupantou today at 11:49
message sent to noobs and magnetoo

these are the frontline villages that require support. I know silverbird has alredy contacted you for some support for his op...

Bull 01 (460|600) k64
ontheway2hell (455|593) k54
dragoons (452|594) k54
black watch (451|593) k54
allied hq (450|593) k54
fusiliers (448|591) k54
coldstream (456|591) k54
chief 59 (462|587) k54
wom3 (458|588) k54
wom2 (457|587) k54
essex regiment (449|587) k54
b01. ~goh~ (493|581) k54

if you can organise the support to be sent withing the attack break, it would be great. Keep in mind that troops will not be able to move until 10 am on jan 1st server time.

If you can support more, let me know.
-doupantou[/spoil]

i wonder how much support you guys will get. Has not been much yet

lies all lies!!! Goh would never!

lol again jim you fail miserably...take a look at that message lambezz posted...its obvious the message was sent before the attack break you guys keep whinning about...the deal between goh and onfire was made waaaaaay before any attacks landed on goh.
 

stellro

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Well according to the spoiler it was sent today!!???!!!??!!!????:icon_confused:
 

DeletedUser

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Hey Lambezz... what was the date on that message from DouPantou I wonder :) And what is the date on Stellro's messages with Siritz (oh, right, 12/28/2011 since he did post that info)? The message from douPantou came AFTER the message from Siritz so once again, we didn't contact OnFire until after attacks started against us. Just because you didn't officially declare until after this doesn't change when the war between us actually started.
 

DeletedUser

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Sorry veli!! I do not mean to lie

Well according to the spoiler it was sent today!!???!!!??!!!????:icon_confused:

It was through skype, we are called "skype" after all. lol It was during attack break. You barley even dent Onfire, you think you can do anything to skype?

Hey Lambezz... what was the date on that message from DouPantou I wonder :) And what is the date on Stellro's messages with Siritz (oh, right, 12/28/2011 since he did post that info)? The message from douPantou came AFTER the message from Siritz so once again, we didn't contact OnFire until after attacks started against us. Just because you didn't officially declare until after this doesn't change when the war between us actually started.

So really were to blame cause you guys talked to Recce well before our attacks. Recce has not been here since before Christmas. Not really war just expanding
 
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DeletedUser

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Yeah Stellro, I'm not saying they have no spies at all. I can't speak for OnFire of course. But they have nothing in GOH - that's all I'm saying. That's why I said "Not shared GOH/OnFire forums" when asking them to send proof. And why would you send a spy to a tribe that has 1M less points than you. Shows they fear something to go that far :-D
 
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