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DeletedUser

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I Think I should clarify something to you all. this is especially aimed at Stellro

~GOH~, whatever you say, stats don't lie, you were getting butchered by onfire. We joined in to keep trent onside for a while, that is true, but it was just a diversion till we were ready for them ourselves.

What you fail to grasp is the fact that onfire have been kicking members we were opping to save war stats. Just put in the few players that they kicked as we were nobling them & you'll find we are winning in conquers against a tribe that started 3 times our size. Yes we recruited a few players but they have been losing members, losing activity & losing villages, we have been growing & expanding.

You apparent war effort on onfire was absolutely non existent running up to Christmas, all your players were just nobling barbs & again the stats don't lie. The final straw was when we found that a few of your players had been supporting friends they had in onfire against us. We know this, as we inherited villages with incoming support from you.

So when I was approached by a few players that saw your villages as strategic points that needed taking, I was all too happy to allow it. You then quickly arranged for peace with onfire & now you share a forum together & onfire have you listed as allies.

Skype have never begged a tribe to join in against onfire, we weren't going to say no when shave got involved, fair enough, but we never begged for any tribe to get involved. Onfire dug their own hole, made a lot of enemies & they are getting their just desserts now.

We will go on in this world & you I am afraid will fall by the wayside soon enough.

You have loyalty in your tribe, that is true, but it has been proven that it is not out of skill, but purely out of stupidity.
 

DeletedUser

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Magnetoo is far better at PnP responses than you guys......yes he is annoying but at least he doesnt sell his tribe down the river the first chance he gets :icon_eek:

What have we learnt in the last 2 hours......

That not only SKYPE is, as we stated, full of it, but they also cannot handle aggressive PnP and fold quite early doors.....not the sort of tribe that I'd like to share my secrets with.....but I'd love to play you at poker :icon_wink:

It really does not matter what other tribes think on the PF's we all have been flamed. We will see you in game :icon_razz:
 

DeletedUser

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Poqq... while I will say your post is more reasonable than the others I've seen here (less flaming, more direct), I still disagree with some of this. Yes, we were losing against OnFire. That's obivous. We can be reminded of that over and over and still, no one can ever say we gave up or that we fell by the wayside. And we won't against Skype either. But that's just loyalty and determination, regardless of it's stupidity. We have fun with it, and will continue doing so. If we were afraid of Skype, we wouldn't be here debating this at all. We'd be begging to be friends and would have simply accepted the attacks. Maybe that is stupid, but it's who we are. We don't just take it.

"The final straw was when we found that a few of your players had been supporting friends they had in onfire against us. We know this, as we inherited villages with incoming support from you." First off, this is just not true. Whoever told you this is a very bad spy. If you have proof of this, please send a link showing this. Also, this is the first I've heard about anything like this, so why was this not brought up before? Why was no mail ever sent to us asking what this was all about if it was true? It simply is not true. We have NEVER been friendly with OnFire until after the Siritz messages to Stellro and that's the facts.

lambezz... if it doesn't matter what other tribes think, why post on the PF? Just wondering.
 
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DeletedUser

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lambezz... if it doesn't matter what other tribes think, why post on the PF? Just wondering.

Why not? TBH i am not the best person to ask that question, i have about 15 players who want me rimmed. :lol:

Fact is: ~Goh~ did sign an alliance with Onfire and share forum
Fact is: We never lied on Dogs account, we did in fact do our ops
Fact is: We showed you alot of dead nukes from Onfire, you did nothing
Fact is: We did not have diplomatic ties
Fact is: We receieved support from recently conquered Onfire villages, Why talk to you about it. Your just a fly on the wall.
Fact is: We did attack ~Goh~ so Trent would think we were on there side(Strategic)
 
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velibor

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lambezz... if it doesn't matter what other tribes think, why post on the PF? Just wondering.

Mostly its to kill time...a lot of times people post to make themselves visible and known in the nerd world...then again there is this instance which is supposed to be...erm....attempting to ruin others image lol?

Ps where did i break my promise...and when
 

stellro

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I must admit - Poqq you are far better at this than your counterparts.....

But also with his enthusiasm - Jimi has some valid points.....

No GOH players we're told or even asked if they could support any Onfire members and if this was being done then it certainly was without our knowledge....but as Jimi stated - if this was true - why no contact - why no mail? Because it's not true.

I don't think we could have made it more clear of our feelings towards Onfire than on here - and by me - so why would that be doubted - or even true as a tribe????

Yes some members did have friends in Onfire and they had there own agreements not to attack "each other" - and some of these related to ex-GOH players.....but that's where it ended and these still attacked other members of Onfire - Kirk the Wineman being a prime example of this.

Me & Reece said our pleasantries, wished each other a Merry Christmas - I was off for most of it getting drunk like most people - but to come back to see villages lost to SKYPE - the message from Siritz (who at the time was not confirmed as Reece) stating we had no diplomacy so its all fair game - naturally we re-evaluate.

Would we have ever considered dropping the war with Onfire prior to your attacks - no......but you made the circumstances change - not us - not Onfire.....

We have a mutual respect between Onfire - they have the size and we have seen with players such as Magnetoo they have it IG - we have the loyalty, stupid as it may be, however stupidness does breed stubborness.....and you will find this out in due course.....

If I was you - I would aim to keeping the other 2 off here and you'll do SKYPE more favours.

In reality - this need never have passed - you knew me - you knew you could speak to me - but SKYPE alone caused the direction of this so please do not come on here spouting about what GOH has done when your guys admit on here that you cannot be trusted as far as you can be thrown......and I'm 92 hours from reaching you :icon_wink:
 

DeletedUser

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Poqq... while I will say your post is more reasonable than the others I've seen here (less flaming, more direct), I still disagree with some of this. Yes, we were losing against OnFire. That's obivous. We can be reminded of that over and over and still, no one can ever say we gave up or that we fell by the wayside. And we won't against Skype either. But that's just loyalty and determination, regardless of it's stupidity. We have fun with it, and will continue doing so. If we were afraid of Skype, we wouldn't be here debating this at all. We'd be begging to be friends and would have simply accepted the attacks. Maybe that is stupid, but it's who we are. We don't just take it.

"The final straw was when we found that a few of your players had been supporting friends they had in onfire against us. We know this, as we inherited villages with incoming support from you." First off, this is just not true. Whoever told you this is a very bad spy. If you have proof of this, please send a link showing this. Also, this is the first I've heard about anything like this, so why was this not brought up before? Why was no mail ever sent to us asking what this was all about if it was true? It simply is not true. We have NEVER been friendly with OnFire until after the Siritz messages to Stellro and that's the facts.

Yes I'm sure you will keep going, you do all stand by each other, what I am pointing out is that running up to Christmas you guys were just nobling barbs & at no point focusing on onfire, you all were turtling, doing your best to stay alive. Offering nothing to be considered a worthy partner against onfire.

What you have pointed out to be a lie, is in fact true. But I am interested to know what proof you think we could possibly have of this? It's our word against yours. But are you entirely sure of what you know. A couple of your players supported onfire members, whether you allowed them to or not.

Also what you all fail to understand is that reece is our war general & my co-duke, he had been handling relations in regards to the war & your mail to his account was not replied to by him, but lambezz his co. I am leader of skype & I handle all diplomacy. You had not been warring onfire, you had been nobling barbs, you had players supported the common enemy against a partner tribe warring your enemy. All of this gave me justification to allow my players in K54 to start taking a few villages from you guys & once again met with little resistance.
 

stellro

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What you have pointed out to be a lie, is in fact true. But I am interested to know what proof you think we could possibly have of this? It's our word against yours. But are you entirely sure of what you know. A couple of your players supported onfire members, whether you allowed them to or not.

How about the reports of the support landing???
 

DeletedUser

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"Description
Skype - You use it, you love it, you spend half your life on it, sometimes it doesn't do what you want it to & most players cant live without it - A Lover

Questions? Diplomacy? Mail Poqq

Recruitment? Mail Siritz

Oh how we will miss ~AC~"

Read this okay. lol Thank you
 

DeletedUser

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already 3 pages, we're breakin a record here:lol:

can you say hi to amigos for me? Just when i was in a good mood to mock him, he blocked me. :icon_cry:
 

DeletedUser

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How about the reports of the support landing???

They are long gone now & plus some of us have filters. This was all just before christmas & reports have gone since then. So you'll have to forgive the fact that we don't have these to show on here.
 

stellro

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They are long gone now & plus some of us have filters. This was all just before christmas & reports have gone since then. So you'll have to forgive the fact that we don't have these to show on here.

Hmmmm......thats believable - perhaps things like this are worth keeping in future :icon_redface:

And just to stop these "Poqq is our diplomat" rubbish

Stellro on 28.12. at 20:50
Any explanation why we have received attacks from Skype today???

poqq on 28.12. at 20:56
I didn't know you had. I heard one of my players was having a bit of trouble with one of your guys but that's it

Can't say an option wasn't there for you to take up any aggrevance directly with me......more floors in these arguments.....
 

DeletedUser

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Foolish to believe any member of ~GOH~ would support OnFire. Personally I was furious when I found out we'd NAP'd with them. Still am and will not help OnFire, regardless of orders to do so. I am however, loyal enough to attack Skype for this stupidity. Did you except players, like myself, who are casually playing to take on players like EvilClown and magnetoo? They're both jerks but they're powerful jerks.

As for myself, I had a pretty good reason to attack a new member of Skype, marami9, as he nobled one of my farms, but I didn't wanna know why? Because the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Learn to take this to heart.
 

DeletedUser

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You did attack him tho

Attacker: MormonJesus
Origin: Nope.avi (453|579) K54

Quantity: 0 0 2869 0 317 0 0 0 1
Losses: 0 0 2371 0 262 0 0 0 1


Defender: marami9
Destination: Shiraz (455|581) K54
 

DeletedUser

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You did attack him tho

Attacker: MormonJesus
Origin: Nope.avi (453|579) K54

Quantity: 0 0 2869 0 317 0 0 0 1
Losses: 0 0 2371 0 262 0 0 0 1


Defender: marami9
Destination: Shiraz (455|581) K54

I was speaking of course, in term of before the war. My mistake lambezz.
 

DeletedUser101704

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Foolish to believe any member of ~GOH~ would support OnFire. Personally I was furious when I found out we'd NAP'd with them. Still am and will not help OnFire, regardless of orders to do so. I am however, loyal enough to attack Skype for this stupidity. Did you except players, like myself, who are casually playing to take on players like EvilClown and magnetoo? They're both jerks but they're powerful jerks.

As for myself, I had a pretty good reason to attack a new member of Skype, marami9, as he nobled one of my farms, but I didn't wanna know why? Because the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Learn to take this to heart.


One again magnetoo as in Carsi :icon_rolleyes: don't know why I get associated with him. lol I do like the powerful part though.

Our secret is out and has been out for a while... we do have an "alliance" with ~GOH~. Stellro may just have a different definition. I view an alliance as coming together towards a common goal... which is exactly what we are doing to attack Skype. It may not be a strong alliance, but not having another front works for me.
 

DeletedUser

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Well, what we call an alliance and what someone else calls an alliance may or may not be the same. However, Skype was claiming they have a spy and as proof, they said we had an alliance. The problem with that statement is, we don't have OnFire set up as Allies - so their spy argument went by the wayside. However:

Correction: I lied that we have no spy in ~Goh~ but who needs one in there anyways? They will get destroyed

So that point is moot anyway. He admitted it's was a lie :)
 

DeletedUser

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Well, what we call an alliance and what someone else calls an alliance may or may not be the same. However, Skype was claiming they have a spy and as proof, they said we had an alliance. The problem with that statement is, we don't have OnFire set up as Allies - so their spy argument went by the wayside. However:



So that point is moot anyway. He admitted it's was a lie :)

That is the only thing i lied about, but it is alright cause we have spies in Onfire
 

DeletedUser

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Hmmmm......thats believable - perhaps things like this are worth keeping in future :icon_redface:

And just to stop these "Poqq is our diplomat" rubbish



Can't say an option wasn't there for you to take up any aggrevance directly with me......more floors in these arguments.....

I had already allowed my members to launch at you, so playing a little silly daft with you stalled the hostilities till we'd gained from it. In times of war, desperate measures are sometimes required. Your players had no war effort against onfire & the final straw had already occured. I had no wish to give a third chance to your tribe & for this reason I replied as I did to stall.

Whatever forms of diception you try to brand us with, you can be safe in the knowledge that I do what is best for my tribe, all it's members & my allies, as I am sure you try to do.
 
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