I'm speechless, recruiting refugees?

[DeletedUser]

SOOO they need help to take out a smaller tribe? Hmmm epic...epic indeed. All of the crap talk for nothing. :icon_rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Astronomy
Cause we are Allies with DIY, we have agreed to attack speechless and take over k75.
So actually we help them in the war without they need it ofc, and each tribe(us and DIY) has its own teritory without stepping in the foots of the other.

the bit i boled he was saying right there that ofc DIY do not need the help but there's the agreed area so taking a few unhappy players out of that tribe to help clean up there agreed area is in a way helping them :lol:

 

[DeletedUser]

SOOO they need help to take out a smaller tribe? Hmmm epic...epic indeed. All of the crap talk for nothing. :icon_rolleyes:

Your tribe is broken. Here's your tribe changes this month:

KettcoLeft03rd August 2010 - 01:21231,061

Karlos The DragonLeft03rd August 2010 - 01:21264,315

londonboiiLeft03rd August 2010 - 01:21151,802

SkarbrandLeft03rd August 2010 - 01:21195,418

stevie-hill2006Left03rd August 2010 - 01:21258,783

Nutter01Left02nd August 2010 - 16:21372,086

King Dimitar BraveheartLeft02nd August 2010 - 01:23116
whipxLeft01st August 2010 - 16:1320,210

Now if you'd like, you can pretend that your tribe is still functional. I assume you're one of those players that won't be recruited by one of us considering how much you're whining. Here's how war works: You fight players, you break their morale and leadership capabilities, then you recruit players that have done well against you or have shown promise. Clearly players are leaving because your tribe is no longer functional, which means we've defeated you. At this point, we really don't care what orphan does in their territory because your tribe will be no more in a couple weeks. We don't plan to invade K75, so we'll leave that to orphan. We've already done our damage. If you can't see that, it's no surprise you're not being recruited.

the bit i boled he was saying right there that ofc DIY do not need the help but there's the agreed area so taking a few unhappy players out of that tribe to help clean up there agreed area is in a way helping them :lol:

Him saying "they need help to take out a smaller tribe?" implies that we wouldn't be able to defeat them on our own. What he doesn't seem to realize is that they are already defeated.

 

[DeletedUser]

L-C,
Really, I just checked the posted players above and actually started laughing. Most have at least 4 tribe changes (2 having 9 or more)?

Let look closer:
Kettco - 4 changes, 230K acct w/ rank 348 OD (weak OD rating, not much of a warrior)
Karlos - 10 changes, 264K acct w/ rank 147 OD (stronger warrior but tribe hopper, personally, he'd not have private forum priv's if I was lead)
london - 5 changes, 151K acct w/ rank 1101 OD (OD is a joke, has he actually sent an axe to a real target?)
Skar - 3 changes, 195K w/ rank 757 OD (again, can he or will he actually attack someone with skill?)
Stevie - 5 changes, 258K acct w/ rank 364 OD (wow, thought he was at war?)
Nutter - 9 tribe changes (didn't expect this), 385K acct w/ rank 258 OD (again, at war and 258 OD? wow)
King - mostly assimilated and internally nobled (don't see how Orphan caused this)
Whipx - mostly assimilated and internally nobled (don't see how Orphan caused this)

As for breaking a tribe, in this nubs view, something above indicates three things:
1. Orphan recruited players that haven't any loyalty to their tribe
2. Orphan's recruiting policy is rather weak and obviously values points over active envolvement
3. You are trumpeting Orphan's greatness and really have yet to show us anything.

Just my perspective but then again I'm a neutral party nub here.

 

[DeletedUser]

First of all let me congradulate DIY on winning the war - from what I could see it was fought honourably and even with a bit of humour. I would also commend the speechless players who put in a good fight.

Various individuals and the tribe as a whole are weighing up their options on each side of the DIY | orphan divide and the next day or so will bring sweeping changes.

In the short term, I am stepping in as duke of Speechless while all this chaos ensues. So all threats, comments and even a few 'you guys did ok' can be directed to me.

 

[DeletedUser]

L-C,
Really, I just checked the posted players above and actually started laughing. Most have at least 4 tribe changes (2 having 9 or more)?

Let look closer:
Kettco - 4 changes, 230K acct w/ rank 348 OD (weak OD rating, not much of a warrior)
Karlos - 10 changes, 264K acct w/ rank 147 OD (stronger warrior but tribe hopper, personally, he'd not have private forum priv's if I was lead)
london - 5 changes, 151K acct w/ rank 1101 OD (OD is a joke, has he actually sent an axe to a real target?)
Skar - 3 changes, 195K w/ rank 757 OD (again, can he or will he actually attack someone with skill?)
Stevie - 5 changes, 258K acct w/ rank 364 OD (wow, thought he was at war?)
Nutter - 9 tribe changes (didn't expect this), 385K acct w/ rank 258 OD (again, at war and 258 OD? wow)
King - mostly assimilated and internally nobled (don't see how Orphan caused this)
Whipx - mostly assimilated and internally nobled (don't see how Orphan caused this)

As for breaking a tribe, in this nubs view, something above indicates three things:
1. Orphan recruited players that haven't any loyalty to their tribe
2. Orphan's recruiting policy is rather weak and obviously values points over active envolvement
3. You are trumpeting Orphan's greatness and really have yet to show us anything.

Just my perspective but then again I'm a neutral party nub here.

yeah my od sucks but try having nothing but noobs by you where all you have to kill is a few k of troops each time if that in some cases :lol:

As for the at war part i was 66 to 100 hours away from any of the front line i was only in speechless a very short time where i did try to move to the front twice.
now all ready posted my tribe changes

well here is my tribe changes
Old tribe New tribe Date/Time Points
None AAH 08th June 2010 - 01:25:24 186
AAH None 09th June 2010 - 04:13:40 290 Left as apart from me a 3 others the whole tribe was inactive
None Crazy 10th June 2010 - 19:16:37 373 Made a tribe just for me never invited anyone
Crazy WAP 11th June 2010 - 22:13:16 456 Joined what was londons tribe
WAP Crazy 17th June 2010 - 01:23:52 1,875 We reformed the tribe leaving some behind
Crazy None 06th July 2010 - 16:19:42 42,105 Had an outside of the tribe sitter so left while that was being done
None Crazy 07th July 2010 - 01:25:09 42,861
Crazy ...... 23rd July 2010 - 04:13:09 192,547 Was looking for a better group of people to play along side
...... Orphan 02nd August 2010 - 16:21:52 372,086 Was fed up of no sort fo leadership everyone thinking GZ was god and everything was about him, and the fact half the tribe could not be assed to do anything. Then after wasting 66 hours to move to the front line which failed thanks to the DIY duke taking the village i sent to lol but same time saying how my attacks were set up better then 99% of speechless :lol: (sent second train to a viilage on the front but missed it by 1 my bad should of sent 5 nobles)
they turn around and say i am doing jack (along with others)

so in all i have only been in 4 tribes

AHH
Crazy/wap was same tribe just reformed
Speechless
now Orphan

 

[DeletedUser]

So DIY declares war on speechless for recruiting from DD which they were in war with,
and now actually arranged for Orphan to recruit from speechless which they were in war with
isn't that somehow a double standard ?

On another thought, it's a good strategy to win the war,
when Orphan recruits more from Speechless
they can reduce the defense stack on the front lines
while they can concentrate on their priority op targets

But i do not understand what's the difference in Speechless recruiting from DD and Orphan recruiting from Speechless,
probably nothing much serious tbh, just out of curiousity

that's how the members of DIY play mate... it sucks but you have to deal with it

they cannot win a war without diplomacy

the diplomacy is getting the larger orphan tribe to pick out the good players from speechless... leave the lesser members for them to conquer while building up the egos in their head along with on public forum

they will in time do the same thing with other tribes

probably with . . . . if they are not already doing so

my theory is if they need orphan to recruit their enemy's for them to win a war when they out number speechless more than 2:1... why not orphan stack speechless and rain nukes and trains from a k away... break them now before they get dug into the k? it would solidify orphans southern dominance and would make alot of since

with the diplomacy they have now it will only allow DIY for breatheing room... then they will turn on orphan as they have done their other alliances and nap's

i said it along time ago at the begining of this world that is their strategy... now you see it first hand

if this diplomacy between these two tribes stay the same... look forward to DIY recruit whoreing orphans enemy's... great strategy... but it leaves a disgusting taste to anyone who likes to have honor or credibility behind their accounts name on this game

i guess that's why these DIY nubs change their account names every world

perfect time to cut the leash on DIY Orphan and declare... think about it... if GZ cause all that troube just imagine how easy it would be to take villages from them?

 

[DeletedUser]

still tribe hopping and... the excuse of no strong players around for most is laughable. you however I know are skilled enough. (hence the reason I was surprised at the number of tribe changes)

start attacking yourself then and boost that OD <sarcasm of course>

 

[DeletedUser]

still tribe hopping and... the excuse of no strong players around for most is laughable. you however I know are skilled enough. (hence the reason I was surprised at the number of tribe changes)

start attacking yourself then and boost that OD <sarcasm of course>

no really every village i have taken by me i have not lost more then 800 troops clearing apart from 2 of twk vills i took lost a nuke and a half on them and 1 of amandas vills lost a half nuke and a few 100 from second nuke as pally had bonfire :icon_rolleyes: and then generals village he had 1.3k cats with 7k of spear and sword to clear so lost a lot there again silly bonfire lol

and yes it can be seen as tribe hopping as already at this stage 4 tribes already

but the od situ will be changing as i at last have only a few tribe members by me and loads of red

 

[DeletedUser]

Hotrodder, why do you continue to post?
You know absolutely nothing of what has taken place, nor what is taking place.

If you hate us so much then come get some

 

[DeletedUser]

dbl post FTW!!!

Hotrodder, maybe if the remaining speechless members feel that you are worth their time, they will enlighten your uneducated self.
Don't hold your breath tho.:icon_rolleyes:

 

[DeletedUser79613]

This war over?

 

[DeletedUser]

L-C,
Really, I just checked the posted players above and actually started laughing. Most have at least 4 tribe changes (2 having 9 or more)?

Let look closer:
Kettco - 4 changes, 230K acct w/ rank 348 OD (weak OD rating, not much of a warrior)
Karlos - 10 changes, 264K acct w/ rank 147 OD (stronger warrior but tribe hopper, personally, he'd not have private forum priv's if I was lead)
london - 5 changes, 151K acct w/ rank 1101 OD (OD is a joke, has he actually sent an axe to a real target?)
Skar - 3 changes, 195K w/ rank 757 OD (again, can he or will he actually attack someone with skill?)
Stevie - 5 changes, 258K acct w/ rank 364 OD (wow, thought he was at war?)
Nutter - 9 tribe changes (didn't expect this), 385K acct w/ rank 258 OD (again, at war and 258 OD? wow)
King - mostly assimilated and internally nobled (don't see how Orphan caused this)
Whipx - mostly assimilated and internally nobled (don't see how Orphan caused this)

As for breaking a tribe, in this nubs view, something above indicates three things:
1. Orphan recruited players that haven't any loyalty to their tribe
2. Orphan's recruiting policy is rather weak and obviously values points over active envolvement
3. You are trumpeting Orphan's greatness and really have yet to show us anything.

Just my perspective but then again I'm a neutral party nub here.

So most of that still supports the fact that the tribe is broken. The fact that so many don't even bother contributing indicates a broken tribe, whether or not it was us. My point is that they are broken, and we don't care what Orphan now does in K75, as we are not moving there. I don't believe I've mentioned anything about Orphan being a strong tribe or not. Simply saying that they can do with that K as they wish since we are not moving there. If they want to recruit every player in the K, so be it. We just don't care what happens with it.

EDIT: It seemed like your response makes you believe I'm in Orphan. I'm actually in DIY. Maybe I misunderstood?

 

[DeletedUser]

Your tribe is broken. Here's your tribe changes this month:

KettcoLeft03rd August 2010 - 01:21231,061

Karlos The DragonLeft03rd August 2010 - 01:21264,315

londonboiiLeft03rd August 2010 - 01:21151,802

SkarbrandLeft03rd August 2010 - 01:21195,418

stevie-hill2006Left03rd August 2010 - 01:21258,783

Nutter01Left02nd August 2010 - 16:21372,086

King Dimitar BraveheartLeft02nd August 2010 - 01:23116
whipxLeft01st August 2010 - 16:1320,210

Now if you'd like, you can pretend that your tribe is still functional. I assume you're one of those players that won't be recruited by one of us considering how much you're whining. Here's how war works: You fight players, you break their morale and leadership capabilities, then you recruit players that have done well against you or have shown promise. Clearly players are leaving because your tribe is no longer functional, which means we've defeated you. At this point, we really don't care what orphan does in their territory because your tribe will be no more in a couple weeks. We don't plan to invade K75, so we'll leave that to orphan. We've already done our damage. If you can't see that, it's no surprise you're not being recruited.



Him saying "they need help to take out a smaller tribe?" implies that we wouldn't be able to defeat them on our own. What he doesn't seem to realize is that they are already defeated.

Nothing wrong with being loyal aye? Im behind ole snet regardless of what his choice to do next is. If that means split us up into DIY and Orphan then so be it. If its fight and go down with the ship then so be it. Only other world ive been on is 8. Started it when it started. I always stood by whatever choices the tribes I was in did. I dont run if things start looking bad. Afterall...its just a game.

Ok true you all put a hurting on us on the front lines and Orphan taking a few top players does look bad. Im not whining im simply stating my views on what has happened. Their is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

 

[DeletedUser]

First of all let me congradulate DIY on winning the war - from what I could see it was fought honourably and even with a bit of humour. I would also commend the speechless players who put in a good fight.

Various individuals and the tribe as a whole are weighing up their options on each side of the DIY | orphan divide and the next day or so will bring sweeping changes.

In the short term, I am stepping in as duke of Speechless while all this chaos ensues. So all threats, comments and even a few 'you guys did ok' can be directed to me.

I had fun fighting you over the last couple days. :icon_razz:

 

[DeletedUser]

This war over?

Yup, everything has an end after all. I would like to thank the guys at front lines who kept working hard for DIY and i also would like to thank Speechless fighters who didnt make that an easy trip for us and made it more fun and challenging. Now we can live in peace for a while until another challengers reveal themselves :icon_wink:

 

[DeletedUser]

Wait is DIY gonna kill Orphan for taking in speechless players? That is recruiting refugees after all and is the stated reason behind you recruiting speechless.

I hope to see Orphan fight a war instead of merge whore its way into victory.

 

[DeletedUser]

Wait is DIY gonna kill Orphan for taking in speechless players? That is recruiting refugees after all and is the stated reason behind you recruiting speechless.

I hope to see Orphan fight a war instead of merge whore its way into victory.

DIY and Orphan are allies

so I guess that voids any refugee status, I think it was part of an arranged agreement.

 

[DeletedUser]

Hotrodder, why do you continue to post?
You know absolutely nothing of what has taken place, nor what is taking place.

If you hate us so much then come get some

Well I think DIY needs to declare on Orphan for recruiting refugees now. :icon_razz:

It was part of our alliance agreement

So DIY declares war on speechless for recruiting from DD which they were in war with,
and now actually arranged for Orphan to recruit from speechless which they were in war with
isn't that somehow a double standard ?

On another thought, it's a good strategy to win the war,
when Orphan recruits more from Speechless
they can reduce the defense stack on the front lines
while they can concentrate on their priority op targets

But i do not understand what's the difference in Speechless recruiting from DD and Orphan recruiting from Speechless,
probably nothing much serious tbh, just out of curiousity

you are a leader of the tribe sanchez... i'm not gona flame you for lieing about what is going on on the externals about what is going on ingame

i added a few quotes to your post saying i don't know anything... it's not that i don't know anything... but it's that i know what you don't want to admit

how did you when either one of these wars?

i'll tell you exactly... you semi defeated one player from . . . . he was their best i would say and their tribe fled... wow pat yourself on the back for that one for a few hours

how did you defeat speechless?
you got orphan to recruit them and going to pick off the rest

your just all pissy because you know if orphan had nuts and declared on your pussy ass tribe you would be rimmed... nothing more or less

nice comeback though mate "you don't know anything hotrodder" lmfao... i know too much about you and your mates is the prob

orphan declare and butt rape these fags hahahaha

 

[DeletedUser]

you are a leader of the tribe sanchez... i'm not gona flame you for lieing about what is going on on the externals about what is going on ingame

i added a few quotes to your post saying i don't know anything... it's not that i don't know anything... but it's that i know what you don't want to admit

how did you when either one of these wars?

i'll tell you exactly... you semi defeated one player from . . . . he was their best i would say and their tribe fled... wow pat yourself on the back for that one for a few hours

how did you defeat speechless?
you got orphan to recruit them and going to pick off the rest

your just all pissy because you know if orphan had nuts and declared on your pussy ass tribe you would be rimmed... nothing more or less

nice comeback though mate "you don't know anything hotrodder" lmfao... i know too much about you and your mates is the prob

orphan declare and butt rape these fags hahahaha

They say to read all of the posts in a thread before replying..you missed the last one where SS said they were allies. Allies=no declare. Also I think DIY would win such a war anyway. They fight instead of merge whoring.

 

[Bnick18]

They say to read all of the posts in a thread before replying..you missed the last one where SS said they were allies. Allies=no declare.

yeah but the problem with hotrodder is that he isnt that bright :icon_razz: