some folks here were talking about me I think. And you were right, I am not active - since CND was fighting C2, I and most of HRV members quit playing actively W16 - we didn't want to attack either of our allies, but you know the history... we got busy with RL, other worlds and when C2 attacked HRV instead of coming back to play actively I said "screw it, not worth it giving them the time of my day"... Most of ppl knew for ages that i'm inactive, although my account isn't sat by anyone - i drink beer with some original players of HRV in our Pub...
Secondly, congratulations to C2 - you did successfully broken firstly HRV, then HRVLS, and then SF. Re-formation of these tribes, and consequent move of the remaining accounts to Plight/MK does show the strength of C2, their consistency and organisation. Had our tribe, =HRV=, been able to resist C2, there would be no change of names. Against =HRV= and LS, you have won and that war is over, victory is yours. I cannot speak of what's going to happen in the future war against the Plight nor is it my business to comment on it.
Still, mr jdt, whoever you are, and I doubt you were playing W16 from the beginning, you are either unlearnt, or simply trying to rub unnecessarily the salt in the wounds. The loosers, =HRV= in this case, actually are remembered. The history still remembers Napoleon, King Dusan of Serbs, Ned Kelly, USA forces fighting in Vietnam, or even the Sitting Bull. They all lost their wars but we remember them, right?
Those of us who were playing W16 from the beginning still remember the Hippos, IP, ORC, XXL, LOD, ~I~, and even meh.... Some of them stayed here for a little while, some longer, some of them I fought personally, and argued against in the forum. But I remember them, and remember them with a certain gladness - they made the playing experience on W16 enjoyable! And 'whatever they tried to accomplish' is remembered, not forgotten. To forget all defeated tribes and foes would be so ignorant and unthankful, for it was them who gave the spice to this world...
You may say what you want, but =HRV= has played a bit part in this world, and although it is dead now, i hope the players of this world would be gracious enough to admit that it was a great tribe while their players were active, even if for a while...