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"Nov 28 01:51 coach64 has been KICKED FOR THE STATS by never back down."
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"Nov 28 01:51 coach64 has been KICKED FOR THE STATS by never back down."
No one seems to get the point ... I was an enemy of Phoenx, plain and simple because I was on the other side. The point is all the BS about making a reason up (refugee) ... why not just call the kettle black. Paj = BS and I am continually shocked at how he spews forth BS, believes it and then people actually follow and or believe in his BS.
Paj made me an offer over a year ago and I just didn't trust him enough to take it. The whole thing about being a Ramite, what a joke. I was just an enemy of Paj - nothing to do with RAM. I didn't join RAM until the very end when I had no options. Paj labeled me a Ramite so that I would look disloyal to my tribe, Loen. In the end i was betrayed by the weak minded leadership in Loen. Such is life in this game ...
I have played on many worlds and in W30 I have never seen such large scale mind games - propaganda - BS thrown around. It always amazed me how Paj would start something and how people would then follow him ... I labeled it as "under his spell".
It makes a lot of senses to kick Coach out of Loen with Sir Mike's statement, that is probably accurate. We can go with some smurks comments on the plan from Shipley (or anybody else) to get him in Loen to stir things up between Loen and Phoenx.
While he could have been booted for stats matters, could there be something else at play? Could someone be selling its tribe up to get something in return? Someone that was supporting RAM members gets the boot that easily, why?
This is getting fun ... sir mike, you are nothing but a Phoenx wanna-be. You sold me out way before supporting a RAM village. You actually kept trying to force me to freely give up 80 or so villages to Phoenx just because Paj asked. You called it a bounty or fee or some other name, but I see it as being on the side of the enemy (oops, there goes that traitor thing again). You never once excepted me into the Loen tribe, why?
And Noobs\Smurks, that whole master plan on how I was being planted into Loen, again, not sure who started that story? I didn't even post in the forums for 3 months just to stay out of any tribe politics.
And I was booted out of RAM weeks after I quit. Not sure who was\is playing the account but they are the booted player. thee account being booted from RAM is a non-story.
And lastly, as things heated up against Phoenx, I was attacked by Gliga, Paj and Taoron. I received no support from anyone in Loen or RAM. No one called for war against them at that time, yet I was being attacked. So of course if I had an opportunity I would support a village to kill off some of my enemies troops. This is a war game, right? So Paj throws a fit and uses that as a red flag that I am breaking Paj's rule. But my Loen tribe didn't back me, instead they asked me to hand over villages (sir mike). Others on the Loen council (like Frenchy) got a little upset about this and hence the heat was on to start something against Phoenx. So it is okay to have inbound attacks from Phoenx but not okay to support villages against Phoenx? Talk about tribe hugging. I don't think many people have any idea what was going on, I didn't care to go on the forums and make a fuss about this, it is only a game. But as I kept reading all the BS, the twisted stories and dis-information to justify something ,,, this is crazy funny.
The bottom line is that Paj labeled me an enemy (no big deal - we have been on different sides for 2 years), he used influence, made up stuff and twisted it to make it look like I am the bad guy and deserved to be attacked, justified by people in my own tribe. But whatever, I hold no bad feelings, just amazed at the way some people play and the weak-minded players. Like how a member of a tribe council can get upset with another tribemate and council member, quit the tribe so you can be free to attack the other tribemate and then rejoin the tribe with no consequences?
Blah Blah Blah ...
The bottom line is that Paj labeled me an enemy (no big deal - we have been on different sides for 2 years), he used influence, made up stuff and twisted it to make it look like I am the bad guy and deserved to be attacked, justified by people in my own tribe.
Only thing you said that matters is that you WERE an enemy, and a refugee. Phoenx and your account had been fighting for two years.
Paj "used his influence" to say "hey, LoEN, Coach64 is Phoenx's food from way back in Die. If you want to take him in, fine, but he'll have to give up a bunch of villas to survive. And he can't support RAM or otherwise cause trouble."
You decided that you wouldn't pay the bounty asked by your tribe to cure your refugee status. You voluntarily decided to support a RAM villa after your tribe told you that doing that was forbidden.
And yet, somehow you blame LoEN or Phoenx for "twisting" things? You almost single-handedly started a war between LoEN and Phoenx - something I'm sure you always wanted to do anyway - by refusing to do the things your council demanded of you.
Again, some personal responsibility here ... had you paid the bounty and not supported RAM, your account would be alive today.
And I was booted out of RAM weeks after I quit. Not sure who was\is playing the account but they are the booted player. the account being booted from RAM is a non-story.
And lastly, as things heated up against Phoenx, I was attacked by Gliga, Paj and Taoron. I received no support from anyone in Loen or RAM.
Only thing you said that matters is that you WERE an enemy, and a refugee. Phoenx and your account had been fighting for two years.
Paj "used his influence" to say "hey, LoEN, Coach64 is Phoenx's food from way back in Die. If you want to take him in, fine, but he'll have to give up a bunch of villas to survive. And he can't support RAM or otherwise cause trouble."
You decided that you wouldn't pay the bounty asked by your tribe to cure your refugee status. You voluntarily decided to support a RAM villa after your tribe told you that doing that was forbidden.
And yet, somehow you blame LoEN or Phoenx for "twisting" things? You almost single-handedly started a war between LoEN and Phoenx - something I'm sure you always wanted to do anyway - by refusing to do the things your council demanded of you.
Again, some personal responsibility here ... had you paid the bounty and not supported RAM, your account would be alive today.
Mostly +1 to that
Coach YOU were recruited with the sole aim of having another 1000 villages to throw into the BH war, the loss of 81 villages in a K that we had no interest in at that time would have been a small price to pay.
You were even offered the choice of swapping to a bigger account with another player to get you off the phoenix hit list. Which would have allowed you to intern the majority of your old villages, you were offered a multitude of easy interns to make up for the 81 villages in K84 some 10 fold in number but you were (so it would seem ) determined that you would do your own thing.
Go figure
Hhhmmm ...
Cy-press, you're speaking out of your rear end. You know nothing except what you are told - that is called hear-say and not fact. Next, where did I say I was a refugee - beep wrong. Next, Paj dictates what another tribe can or can not do. If that is true, then why can't the other tribe tell Phoenx what it can and can not do? Not a two way street, huh? My tribe didn't ask me to pay the bounty, Paj did. That was another issue that upset some Loen council members against Phoenx (only sir mike was in favor of me giving up vills). I supported another villa after being attacked by Phoenx players, before the war was declared (what world do you live in where you can be attacked by a tribe and not fight back? Some Loen council members had no problems with that. The only member to say something negative was sir mike, Paj's girlfriend). You are correct that things were twisted, where by me (and please come up with a fact or don't bother to reply at all)? The Loen council demanded nothing of me, the only member that was trying to pressure me into giving up the villages was sir mike, the only one. And the war was started by Frenchy, read the beginning of this thread, no mention of coach there??? And your final statement that my account would be alive today, did you even bother to read any other posts in this thread? How many times does Paj say that no matter what my days were numbered. Please don't waste time replying when you know nothing.
Author said:cshipley on 29.06. at 13:56
From my perspective, I negotiated the surrender of D2, so you guys could shut down the front and focus on BH in the North.
I negotiated this with Wilsonteo and my only request was the recruitment of coach and whatamidoing.
The NAP was agreed between me and you. The reason for this was Wilsonteo went into hospital and I appraoached you to find a new point of contact and we have stayed in touch ever since.
To then have one of your Phoenix loyal council mail me and accuse me of breaking a NAP by taking in whatamidoing when he doesnt know the facts is ludicrous.
I have nothing to hide from you guys, when I thought he was gonna barb I even gave you a heads up so you could all help yourselves to some of the villages. Turns out the account was saved but my intention was to see you profit.
Im being accused of something underhand and shady, but everything I did was fully approved by LoEN before I did it. Its like me giving you my ipod as a gift and then accusing you of stealing it. You cant agree and then disagree after a month because you change your mind.
I wouldn't normaly post mails but seeing as you seem to have selective memory loss
I think I can safely ignore the majority of your ramblings based on that single mail