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The purpose of this thread is to quantify some of the common claims made to discredit a tribe's skill. These claims are easy to make with anecdotes, but the true facts are rarely verified. To give tribes ammo for or against claims, I have chosen to provide stats to quantify some of these claims. As time goes on I will add more stats and update this first thread with links to the post. Feel free to make suggestions for stats, and if it seems interesting/useful/feasible, I will make a crack at it.
Keep in mind that I am not a part of any tribe. I'm not involved with this world whatsoever. I'm just a curious and bored.
Original W55 thread here
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The first and most popular claim is that a tribe nobles a lot of barbs. Since it takes no skill to take a barb, and barbs generally don't give the best benefit when capped, it is easy to correlate the number of barbs nobled to the lack of skill of the players in the tribe.
In this stat, the number of barbs nobled by a tribe is compared to the total number of villages nobled. The absolute number of barbs is not the greatest metric, since large tribes will likely have large numbers, so the number of barbs nobled is divided by the number of total villages nobled, to give a normalized metric in the form of percentage of conquers being barbs. This allows tribes barb caps to be compared without regard for tribe size. Also, the stat considers whether a barb is valuable. The barb growth cap in this world is 2k, so the stat considers the cap + 1K as a valuable cap. The rank is based on "valuable" barb caps, rather than total barb caps.
I used paste special from data copied from twstats in to excel then sorted by old owner then by size then used excel to count the stats. Note that the W55 thread did not account for barb size, when comparing stats.
iGouge has been footnoted since the tribe is so new the data may not be statistically representative. Ex as a family has been footnoted as well.
Stat key: <3k%/barb% (<3k,barbs,total)
The tribe most wants to farm the most is!:
Ex - 1.03%/11.74% (29, 330, 2811)
HotRex - 1.12%/5.46% (45,219,4014)
~MW~ 2.42%/8.63% (63, 225,2608)
CTT 3.43%/19.29% (34, 191, 990)
ExO 5.43%, 21.09% (26, 101, 479)
DR 7.36%/18.61% (34, 86, 462)
Slava 10.78%/13.40% (66, 82, 612)
Brutal 10.91%/16.96% (155, 241, 1421)
~@~ 14.27%/19.94% (146, 204, 1023)
The tribe that wastes the most nobles is!:
TRE 19.62%/22.25% (246, 279, 1254)
Footnotes:
iGouge 0.48%/18.36% (1, 38, 207) (2 weeks as a tribe)
Ex/CTT/ExO 2.08%/14.52% (89, 622, 4280)
HotRex/~MW~ 1.63%/6.70% (108, 444, 6622)
sorted by total barb cap %
[spoil]
HotRex - 1.12%/5.46% (45,219,4014)
~MW~ 2.42%/8.63% (63, 225,2608)
Ex - 1.03%/11.74% (29, 330, 2811)
Slava 10.78%/13.40% (66, 82, 612)
Brutal 10.91%/16.96% (155, 241, 1421)
iGouge 0.48%/18.36% (1, 38, 207) (2 weeks as a tribe)
DR 7.36%/18.61% (34, 86, 462)
CTT 3.43%/19.29% (34, 191, 990)
~@~ 14.27%/19.94% (146, 204, 1023)
CTT 3.43%/19.29% (34, 191, 990)
TRE 19.62%/22.25% (246, 279, 1254)[/SIZE][/COLOR]
[/spoil]
sorted by TW Rankings
[spoil]
HotRex - 1.12%/5.46% (45,219,4014)'
Ex - 1.03%/11.74% (29, 330, 2811)'
~MW~ 2.42%/8.63% (63, 225,2608)'
iGouge 0.48%/18.36% (1, 38, 207)
CTT 3.43%/19.29% (34, 191, 990)'
Brutal 10.91%/16.96% (155, 241, 1421)'
ExO 5.43%, 21.09% (26, 101, 479)'
~@~ 14.27%/1994% (146, 204, 1023)
TRE 19.62%/22.25% (246, 279, 1254)
Slava 10.78%/13.40% (66, 82, 612)'
DR 7.36%/18/61% (34, 86, 462)'
[/spoil]
Commentary:
At the time of the finish of this post, the Ex/CTT/ExO Family (please correct me in your proper family name) top 40 players have 35,109,391 points. This still puts them well behind the 46,118,105 points of the HotRex top 40. The total points of the family does just beat the total points of HotRex, with family being at 57,143,132 vs 51,086,031
It is interesting to note that Ex barely beat HotRex in small barbs nobled, but HotRex had half as many total barbs nobled as Ex. When the Ex family is considered, they take second in small barbs, and 4th in total barbs.
Ex has 2nd most absolute number of barbs nobled. TRE (last place) has the most. TRE still has the absolute most small barbs nobled by a large margin.
Notice that this only reflects the caps made while in tribe, so it does not necessarily reflect all of the players' skill. It is possible that each individual ate a lot of barbs while outside of the tribe, and this stat would not reflect that. This issue will encompass future stats.
Beyond what I have said, I will not comment on a tribe's skill. I hope other players will do that for me
Keep in mind that I am not a part of any tribe. I'm not involved with this world whatsoever. I'm just a curious and bored.
Original W55 thread here
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The first and most popular claim is that a tribe nobles a lot of barbs. Since it takes no skill to take a barb, and barbs generally don't give the best benefit when capped, it is easy to correlate the number of barbs nobled to the lack of skill of the players in the tribe.
In this stat, the number of barbs nobled by a tribe is compared to the total number of villages nobled. The absolute number of barbs is not the greatest metric, since large tribes will likely have large numbers, so the number of barbs nobled is divided by the number of total villages nobled, to give a normalized metric in the form of percentage of conquers being barbs. This allows tribes barb caps to be compared without regard for tribe size. Also, the stat considers whether a barb is valuable. The barb growth cap in this world is 2k, so the stat considers the cap + 1K as a valuable cap. The rank is based on "valuable" barb caps, rather than total barb caps.
I used paste special from data copied from twstats in to excel then sorted by old owner then by size then used excel to count the stats. Note that the W55 thread did not account for barb size, when comparing stats.
iGouge has been footnoted since the tribe is so new the data may not be statistically representative. Ex as a family has been footnoted as well.
Stat key: <3k%/barb% (<3k,barbs,total)
The tribe most wants to farm the most is!:
Ex - 1.03%/11.74% (29, 330, 2811)
HotRex - 1.12%/5.46% (45,219,4014)
~MW~ 2.42%/8.63% (63, 225,2608)
CTT 3.43%/19.29% (34, 191, 990)
ExO 5.43%, 21.09% (26, 101, 479)
DR 7.36%/18.61% (34, 86, 462)
Slava 10.78%/13.40% (66, 82, 612)
Brutal 10.91%/16.96% (155, 241, 1421)
~@~ 14.27%/19.94% (146, 204, 1023)
The tribe that wastes the most nobles is!:
TRE 19.62%/22.25% (246, 279, 1254)
Footnotes:
iGouge 0.48%/18.36% (1, 38, 207) (2 weeks as a tribe)
Ex/CTT/ExO 2.08%/14.52% (89, 622, 4280)
HotRex/~MW~ 1.63%/6.70% (108, 444, 6622)
sorted by total barb cap %
[spoil]
HotRex - 1.12%/5.46% (45,219,4014)
~MW~ 2.42%/8.63% (63, 225,2608)
Ex - 1.03%/11.74% (29, 330, 2811)
Slava 10.78%/13.40% (66, 82, 612)
Brutal 10.91%/16.96% (155, 241, 1421)
iGouge 0.48%/18.36% (1, 38, 207) (2 weeks as a tribe)
DR 7.36%/18.61% (34, 86, 462)
CTT 3.43%/19.29% (34, 191, 990)
~@~ 14.27%/19.94% (146, 204, 1023)
CTT 3.43%/19.29% (34, 191, 990)
TRE 19.62%/22.25% (246, 279, 1254)[/SIZE][/COLOR]
[/spoil]
sorted by TW Rankings
[spoil]
HotRex - 1.12%/5.46% (45,219,4014)'
Ex - 1.03%/11.74% (29, 330, 2811)'
~MW~ 2.42%/8.63% (63, 225,2608)'
iGouge 0.48%/18.36% (1, 38, 207)
CTT 3.43%/19.29% (34, 191, 990)'
Brutal 10.91%/16.96% (155, 241, 1421)'
ExO 5.43%, 21.09% (26, 101, 479)'
~@~ 14.27%/1994% (146, 204, 1023)
TRE 19.62%/22.25% (246, 279, 1254)
Slava 10.78%/13.40% (66, 82, 612)'
DR 7.36%/18/61% (34, 86, 462)'
[/spoil]
Commentary:
At the time of the finish of this post, the Ex/CTT/ExO Family (please correct me in your proper family name) top 40 players have 35,109,391 points. This still puts them well behind the 46,118,105 points of the HotRex top 40. The total points of the family does just beat the total points of HotRex, with family being at 57,143,132 vs 51,086,031
It is interesting to note that Ex barely beat HotRex in small barbs nobled, but HotRex had half as many total barbs nobled as Ex. When the Ex family is considered, they take second in small barbs, and 4th in total barbs.
Ex has 2nd most absolute number of barbs nobled. TRE (last place) has the most. TRE still has the absolute most small barbs nobled by a large margin.
Notice that this only reflects the caps made while in tribe, so it does not necessarily reflect all of the players' skill. It is possible that each individual ate a lot of barbs while outside of the tribe, and this stat would not reflect that. This issue will encompass future stats.
Beyond what I have said, I will not comment on a tribe's skill. I hope other players will do that for me
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