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Please common we are talking about beastz

Sure, but the fact that he is in Yarr should speak for itself. He got accepted due to him being active, if he doesn't preform up to Yarr standards,then he will be removed.

You guys make it sound like recruitment of a player is permanent.

It is not permanent, like most memberships to esteemed organizations, if you do not perform up to PYarr. Then you will be removed.
 

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Sure, but the fact that he is in Yarr should speak for itself. He got accepted due to him being active, if he doesn't preform up to Yarr standards,then he will be removed.

You guys make it sound like recruitment of a player is permanent.

It is not permanent, like most memberships to esteemed organizations, if you do not perform up to PYarr. Then you will be removed.

This makes it sound like you recruit them, and then if they don't meet standards you can noble them more easily either internally or kick them so their on their own and then noble then rather they try and fight a semi-organized tribe.

Recruit to win is everywhere in the east of the world it seems, let's just hope that TB can put up a fight when you decide to try and recruit them to your family tribes as well.
 

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This makes it sound like you recruit them, and then if they don't meet standards you can noble them more easily either internally or kick them so their on their own

You make kicking and nobling players that do not reach the standard of the tribe sound like a crime.

If you are willing to teach Yarr your secret fortune telling recruitment method, we are all ears. Until then, I think the tried and tested method old tribes use of "giving players a chance and removing them if they really don't have what it takes" will have to do.
 

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You make kicking and nobling players that do not reach the standard of the tribe sound like a crime.

If you are willing to teach Yarr your secret fortune telling recruitment method, we are all ears. Until then, I think the tried and tested method old tribes use of "giving players a chance and removing them if they really don't have what it takes" will have to do.

The method is teaching them what to do. You don't have to find skilful player's, just players willing to learn. However these types of players are normally very loyal and probably won't jump ship straight away.
 

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The method is teaching them what to do. You don't have to find skilful player's, just players willing to learn. However these types of players are normally very loyal and probably won't jump ship straight away.

I believe that an once of loyalty is worth a pound of cleverness, thus I adhere to what you are saying, but won't you agree that a skilled player who is also loyal would better serve the tribe compared to a player who is only loyal to the tribe?

Yarr does not just recruit and kick players with ease. We try to teach and help players grow, but then again not all players are as skilled as each other. There are limits to the ability of each player.

This is why we recruit, to give players outside the original yarr membership a chance to play under our leadership and our tutelage. You will notice that the tribe members list has changed drastically since the original line up. We bring players into the fold and we make sure to try and give them as much knowledge as possible, though not all players get all that we offer them.
 

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a skilled player who is also loyal

These generally aren't the type of players that are keen to jump ship in the middle of a war. And certainly not those that were recruited in the first wave.

You've probably netted a few skilled players because once the rats started jumping they had no other choice, but I wouldn't expect them to be loyal.
 

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These generally aren't the type of players that are keen to jump ship in the middle of a war. And certainly not those that were recruited in the first wave.

You've probably netted a few skilled players because once the rats started jumping they had no other choice, but I wouldn't expect them to be loyal.

Loyalty can be earned in many ways though. I believe that when you talk to them consistently as well as when you lead by example, loyalty can be earned quickly enough.

Circumstances can sometimes be harsh for even the best players. Some players can get stuck in a transitional tribe looking to join a tribe of a much better caliber in the future.
 
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Its interesting how the manipulation of information under the guise of a "good guy" can easily sway people to your side.

Bunnies being the only ones who are actually worth noting for being a tough nut to crack.

End point, ninja's was gonna lose the war against pirate. However you guys try to shift the opinion of the public. Its clear as day that the Yarr-Arg relationship is the problem of Yarr and Arg. The problem you all should be concerned with is, whose booty will the Yarrians take next?

Acrylics
Retired Yarr Baron

Hi mate, just wanted to converse a bit about your points.. These ones above in particular.

If you were referring to any posts I made there has been no intentional misleading of information, and no 'guise' of a good guy. I said what I believed and am who I am.. no pretenses.

Yarr are not innocent of using this tactic, they employed it (quite successfully too) in the destruction of Ninjas, Well written respectful mails of promised recruitment and not so nicely written mails unfairly discrediting our then duke. That combined with undermining from the inside.. Propaganda I think it is referred to as.

No rules in war, no love lost for tactics, but they were what they were.. I put responsibility of the effects caused from PR spins on both the instigators and the recipients - it does (as they say) take two to tango :)

Bunnies have Mad respect for being the toughest nut so far to crack, couldn't agree more with you on that point. I only wish coordination between bunnies and Ninjas (and KE I guess) could have been more cohesive during that war. The 3front advantage was never properly utilized.

Yarr-Arg relationship has been blown out of proportion. It's quite obvious they are connected, doesn't really matter how. I think most peoples 'beef' with the issue was the way Yarr players on the externals handled the inquiries to the connection, as well as a copping a bit of flack for needing an 'academy' or 'basher tribe'.. It will be interesting to see if anything changes due to all the attention, or if it all just carries on as it has been.

Seems pirates have quietened down on here past day or so, except for yourself Splitting headache.. trying to repair damage done to reputation maybe. Their fighting reputation is good, the public opinion rep is currently not so good though, I hope you guys can repair it!

A personal note to finish on, not related to previous posts.
I did inquire about joining Yarr, I know I have been an advocate against them to keep things balanced in the world - and I still stand by that and encourage others to work towards that goal. But I also like to explore all options, and play with new (good) people. My position on map has always been at the crossroads of about 4tribes, so I have never been in too much danger of becoming a core player easily.

I want to say this has been for me one of the most interesting worlds to date, and it is only quite young. This is due good settings (imo), and dynamic political climate, position on map and mostly for me to being able to play closely with my awesome cousin.
I will be stopping playing quite soon, to enjoy the summer and xmas period as best I can (TW is a winter sport for me) oohhh whats my timezone?.. lol. I have one wave of Trains coming at me to deal with in the next 24hrs, I will defend to my best capabilities and then gift my villages to those I feel are most deserving. I am most pleased to be able to go out with a bang, and thank the players attacking for the chance. Good luck to all, I'll be floating around watching.. Keep it real and respectful :)
 
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Much respect Tryx. You have raised some good points that complimented what I said quite well and I thank you for that.

There are two comments I would clarify on if possible.

Yarr-Arg relationship has been blown out of proportion. It's quite obvious they are connected, doesn't really matter how. I think most peoples 'beef' with the issue was the way Yarr players on the externals handled the inquiries to the connection, as well as a copping a bit of flack for needing an 'academy' or 'basher tribe'.. It will be interesting to see if anything changes due to all the attention, or if it all just carries on as it has been.

I agree with this statement wholeheartedly. I do not see how having connections with Arg should have negative effects on Yarr aside from the comments of some muppets trolling on the externals raising a bit of negative press for Yarr.

If we are destined to fail because we have a basher, then by all means, you all should be happy. The once great Yarr has been reduced to a "family" tribe. An open declaration for anyone to try to take us down since we are such a weak tribe because of the decision that we went for to end ninja.

I will stop there regarding that topic as more muppets might think that I am being arrogant once again. When those same muppets try to discredit the abilities of Yarr, no Yarrian calls it slander, but when we try to defend ourselves from the discrediting thrown at us, we are called arrogant. It's not arrogance when we only try state facts.


Seems pirates have quietened down on here past day or so, except for yourself Splitting headache.. trying to repair damage done to reputation maybe. Their fighting reputation is good, the public opinion rep is currently not so good though, I hope you guys can repair it!

Again, agreement to what you said. We do not need to repair the public opinion on us. Public opinion on Muffin/Pacman/Rank 0/Yarr has never been that good in the first place. We were underdogs from the beginning.

We were underdogs when DaB left Pacman and we from MuFFiN Embraced our pacmanny brothers to give them a home.

Back then, it was predicted that we were destined to fail.

When we were up against Care X, and they declared on us on the public forums and we were called out for rallying a "noob" coalition against them.

Again, people predicted that we would crumble.

After we destroyed Storm and we looked to destroy Bunny for their consistent recruitment into our territory, we were considered gangbangers as Wobble was already attacking them. People thought of us as a tribe of wimps.

Again, they predicted our imminent fall.

Finally, now we have the attack of the Kraken-Ninja alliance to try to bring us down while we were concentrating our resources on the bunny front line. We pushed everyone back and all three tribes have since then crumbled, but yet again people still call us huggers.

We are still a tribe that has and will be the failing tribe.

Again and again and again, we are called out to be a tribe that would fail and again and again and again, we prove everyone wrong. Whatever people think of us, we will always always just be having fun inside the yarr battle ship. We enjoy how we play, and we sure as hell enjoy what we are doing. We especially enjoy how other tribes crumble at our feet when we decide to raid them for booty.

A personal note to finish on, not related to previous posts.
I did inquire about joining Yarr, I know I have been an advocate against them to keep things balanced in the world - and I still stand by that and encourage others to work towards that goal. But I also like to explore all options, and play with new (good) people. My position on map has always been at the crossroads of about 4tribes, so I have never been in too much danger of becoming a core player easily.

I want to say this has been for me one of the most interesting worlds to date, and it is only quite young. This is due good settings (imo), and dynamic political climate, position on map and mostly for me to being able to play closely with my awesome cousin.
I will be stopping playing quite soon, to enjoy the summer and xmas period as best I can (TW is a winter sport for me) oohhh whats my timezone?.. lol. I have one wave of Trains coming at me to deal with in the next 24hrs, I will defend to my best capabilities and then gift my villages to those I feel are most deserving. I am most pleased to be able to go out with a bang, and thank the players attacking for the chance. Good luck to all, I'll be floating around watching.. Keep it real and respectful :)

Tryx, man, all the respect for you and yours. I hope you have a happy Christmas and have a warm summer. It will be sad to see you go. I'm happy that there are still some stragglers on the w65 forum that are not too vindictive or cynical. It warms my heart just knowing that I've talked to one.
 
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Just my 2 Cents..... Man Acrylics bro I missed your Awesome prescence in the Tribe... it just aint the same without you...I'll Be taking one of the Last of your Village soon, my first internal since in Yarr... :D Yeay me...
 

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Just my 2 Cents..... Man Acrylics bro I missed your Awesome prescence in the Tribe... it just aint the same without you...I'll Be taking one of the Last of your Village soon, my first internal since in Yarr... :D Yeay me...

Wonderfully done then schnet. I'm on skype on the chatif you wanna talk. Hahaha. i might go looking for another account inside Yarr.

The Externals seem to need to be whipped into shape once again. :p
 

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I have nothing to add to this other than I just wanted to say that it's good to see people can still play this game with a bit of respect, I think some of us need to take just an ounce of the examples shown above and apply them to themselves, cheers.
 

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I agree with this statement wholeheartedly. I do not see how having connections with Arg should have negative effects on Yarr aside from the comments of some muppets trolling on the externals raising a bit of negative press for Yarr.

If we are destined to fail because we have a basher, then by all means, you all should be happy. The once great Yarr has been reduced to a "family" tribe. An open declaration for anyone to try to take us down since we are such a weak tribe because of the decision that we went for to end ninja.

I will stop there regarding that topic as more muppets might think that I am being arrogant once again. When those same muppets try to discredit the abilities of Yarr, no Yarrian calls it slander, but when we try to defend ourselves from the discrediting thrown at us, we are called arrogant. It's not arrogance when we only try state facts.
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They should have a massive effect considering the amount of good players that the tribe started with and the basis that it was formed, whether that was Dabs Pacman or Muffinz or the two combined.

The reputation of the tribe is in ruins and that is down to the recent events that the members of Yarr have let happen. I'm positive there are grumbles within the tribe, due to it's poor leadership decisions and it's public knowledge that Yarrs biggest allies are unimpressed with the way Yarr have handled themself recently.

As for "The once great Yarr" i'll take it as sarcasm as we all know you guys were far from great, decent? yes, Potential yes, great? No. Great in size maybe yes I will accept. To claim otherwise would be arrogance sprinkled with a little ignorance.

I haven't seen much arrogance from Yarr if I am honest, alot of ignorance and borderline arrogance but nothing I would worry about as there really isn't much for you guys to be arrogant about tbh. Maybe that you have the number 1 spot but come on we all no that's no difficult feat these days.

I appreciate your posts on the forum and wouldn't want you to hold yourself back trying to be appear humble. Let it out. Just stop bolding your sentences it's highly annoying :icon_wink:


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Again, agreement to what you said. We do not need to repair the public opinion on us. Public opinion on Muffin/Pacman/Rank 0/Yarr has never been that good in the first place. We were underdogs from the beginning.

We were underdogs when DaB left Pacman and we from MuFFiN Embraced our pacmanny brothers to give them a home.

Back then, it was predicted that we were destined to fail.

When we were up against Care X, and they declared on us on the public forums and we were called out for rallying a "noob" coalition against them.

Again, people predicted that we would crumble.
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You were never underdogs, especially not on these externals. You were the front runners from the off(Pacman) you were front runners after the merge. All the interest was in your tribe on these very forums, all the blogs included your tribe and most of the press was positive. I held the utmost respect for your tribe and the majority of it's members(some were questionable but meh).

Most of the negativity on this forum was there for propaganda, the rest were from disgruntled enemies.

The noob coalition was a good war tactic, however no one knew then that it was a tale for what was to come. I never battered an eye lid when it was formed. Early world alot of the top tribes are puppet masters that is why they stay as a "top tribe".


The problems started when you started taking runners like Tubrez and such, for their points, the defence for Tubrez' internalling was his OD :lol: which inset justified his recruitment. Something which is easily gained with a load of free villas.

This was the beginning of the decline of your tribes public opinion. A trend set in and you guys really showed the way you wish to win this world and I will say WIN again as that is clearly the aim(which is normal) however you are prepared to get there whichever way possible.

Merging Ninjas was pathetic and destroyed your tribes reputation and with it your players. To then go on to add an academy tribe on the rim just sealed the fate of Yarr as a mass recruiting, cowardly hugging tribe with all the trimmings.

To say that ARG are not an academy is hilarious. Basher tribes are common place now, however basher tribes do not have added extras. You have the bashers and the bashers, resulting in guess what? a basher tribe. An academy has bashers and recruits who are expected to grow with both having the possibilty of joining the main tribe. See the difference?

Tribe A has 15 bashers. One of the bashers is asked to set up a tribe and invite the other 14. He is told who to recruit. The tribe remains at 15 members, if a new basher is established then he will be invited making 16. This is a steady plain as day basher tribe.

Tribe B has 12 bashers. They are invited to a tribe consisting of 18 members. This is a 30 member tribe in which more than half are not bashers. They are simple, lowly recruits. Let's call them Tribe C. Tribe C and B are allies. Tribe C has a name in line with Tribe B. Tribe C is told who to recruit by Tribe B. Tribe B can take members from Tribe C when it wishes. Tribe C is protected by Tribe B. Tribe B will end relations with tribes threatening Tribe C. THIS IS AN ACADEMY TRIBE.



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After we destroyed Storm and we looked to destroy Bunny for their consistent recruitment into our territory, we were considered gangbangers as Wobble was already attacking them. People thought of us as a tribe of wimps.

Again, they predicted our imminent fall.

Finally, now we have the attack of the Kraken-Ninja alliance to try to bring us down while we were concentrating our resources on the bunny front line. We pushed everyone back and all three tribes have since then crumbled, but yet again people still call us huggers.

We are still a tribe that has and will be the failing tribe.
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Who were strorm :icon_neutral: I don't know, some noob tribe probably not even worth noting. I wouldn't even bring up the bunny war to be honest it's just gonna lead to more bad press that is justified against Yarr and to say you "destroyed" them is very arrogant. The 2 "Top" tribes should have dismantled them considering their positions. You did not. You jumped on them after wobble to get easy growth, nothing to do with recruitment in your area. Jumping on the gangbang and failing, miserably. Probably more to do with Bunnies skill rather than Yarrs lack of it so we can leave it there.

Coming along to Kraken, a poor rim tribe who should have been easy food with no co-ordination. Let's forget about them huh?

Ninjas are still here, they are just hiding under your tribes flags. Arg and Yarr. Proud as punch to have survived and sitting in the top family on this world. Ready to run to the next tribe that threatens their existence.

So 1 out of 3 effectively and not even worth mentioning.


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Again and again and again, we are called out to be a tribe that would fail and again and again and again, we prove everyone wrong. Whatever people think of us, we will always always just be having fun inside the yarr battle ship. We enjoy how we play, and we sure as hell enjoy what we are doing. We especially enjoy how other tribes crumble at our feet when we decide to raid them for booty.
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Eventually you will fail, I'm certain of it. You are a family tribe consisting of known runners who have zero loyalty to your "battleships" Whether it is in the next 2/3 month I can't say. However I know one day Wobble Will turn on you and when that time comes the only tribe crumbling will be Yarr/Arg. Toss a few southern tribes in their and those odds of survival grow even slimer and time length, shorter.

SplittingHeadache Happy Christmas, hope you don't get too cold while posting on these fine forums. It warms my heart to read such nonsense from such an entertaining "Yarrian" . Keep up the good work. If I don't see ya through t' week I'll ya through t' window. Much Love.
 
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reading all that i think most of yarr if not all should just give up, its obvious you dont care about the TRUTH and would rather spout bs.

back to giving up, we should just give up trying to tell the externals about whats actually happened.
 

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i didnt bother reading it properly but what i did, he just gave the flame some heat, r-e-s-p-e-c-t , wait what nooo i should be saying shhh Yarr is pr0 1337 LeeT, u iz silly nub bla bla
wait what :S

what is the one about, im bored and yarr forums are quiet for a change so im on day release :D
 

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A large wall of text that is full of nonsense is still that, full of nonsense.
 
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