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Gl irl. Nice goodbye, but you still couldn't resist flaming, and blaming others...>.>
Didn't see this one coming.
I can say one thing about MARIO, he gave this world quite a twist. (Who honestly expected Bored! to fall so easily?).
Not a bad outtro though, saved a shred of respect in my opinion.
From reading on the forums and seeing how the tribe he help lead has done, I would have to say Mario has done a great job. He has done something 99.9% of the people on this game has never done. He was leader of the #1 tribe in a world six months into gameplay. Things happen along the way and even at the end of a tribe but he has accomplished alot.
The failure of a tribe is only partially the leaders fault. 40% of the Failure is the leaderships fault. 60% of the failure is due to the players under the leader. IF Bored! did not have the inactives or the guys getting themselves banned for stupidity, it would have been alot different. Acouple guys giving orders doesnt mean the order actually get cared out. I know from my stand point they kept up a great illusion of strength the whole time things where deteriating from the inside. In the end though I guess one tribe cannot take on 6 tribes on all sides of them.
From reading on the forums and seeing how the tribe he help lead has done, I would have to say Mario has done a great job. He has done something 99.9% of the people on this game has never done. He was leader of the #1 tribe in a world six months into gameplay. Things happen along the way and even at the end of a tribe but he has accomplished alot.
The failure of a tribe is only partially the leaders fault. 40% of the Failure is the leaderships fault. 60% of the failure is due to the players under the leader. IF BORED! did not have the inactives or the guys getting themselves banned for stupidity, it would have been alot different. Acouple guys giving orders doesnt mean the order actually get cared out. I know from my stand point they kept up a great illusion of strength the whole time things where deteriating from the inside. In the end though I guess one tribe cannot take on 6 tribes on all sides of them.
I would actually disagree. This, in my opinion, was a terrible "outtro" as it was just MARIO saying he accepted he failed as a leader, but then attempted to pass essentially the entire blame off - those who left, those who quit, ICARUS, even his co-duke (all of the issues he outlined as reasons for BORED! failing, in his attempts to pass off the blame, can actually be directly linked back to his poor leadership). That, in my opinion, does not garner any respect and actually loses him quite a lot.
That being said, I do believe that people should be allowed quit with a bit of dignity. Even if, I think, you don't deserve it and although I dislike you (I know the feeling's mutual), you're quitting so there's no point attacking you about it.
Cya.
-Conor
Now lets be honest here, even if im right you will still find a way for me to be wrong :icon_redface:...so im not gonna get into any sort of debate about this. But you know aswell as I, all that post did was bash mario in his goodbye thread.Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong. :icon_rolleyes:
Leading a tribe 6 months into a world at rank #1 isn't that hard to do in BORED!'s case. It's different for FRST. BORED! allied NwN and NUTS. Then merged NwN. Then merged NUTS. Then allied ICARUS. Then merged ICARUS. Then allied Nomad. You'll notice that for essentially all of his large threats, what did he do? Ally or merge. Even in his own home continents, he couldn't remove MOAR!. That's an immense lack of leadership. Merging and allying your way to #1 isn't that big of a deal - neither is lasting 6 months. I guess though, I have more room to comment because (using your "statistics") I am one of the 0.01% that has achieved what he has "achieved" (I use that word lightly).
I'd beg to differ on your maths. I'd say nearly close to 100% (maybe 90) is a leaders fault, with the other 10 being outside factors that are out of a leaders control - such as exams, real life emergencies, etc. Let's go through what you claim to be the member's fault:
- If MARIO was a good leader, he'd have kept people motivated and wanting to play by giving them challenges. He'd have forged personal bonds with all of them so they didn't want to quit. It was probably due to his leadership that the majority quit, with some others for reasons he'd have no control over (exams etc). Considering though that a lot that quit etc still play TW, we can put the cause of their inactivity here due to no challenges/boredom - which can be related to the leader.
- Players getting banned? That again could be related to MARIO for not teaching his members about TribalWars and encouraging fair play enough and abiding by the rules.
- If the order doesn't get carried out, again that is the leader's fault - MARIO's fault. It is his fault for not interacting enough with his members so that they do not respect him, have the personal attatchment or loyalty to him to actually care what he tells them to do, or trust that what he tell them to do is for their / the tribe's best interest.
By the way - keeping up an illusion of strength doesn't make a good leader, either.
-Conor
Wow, this post is wrong on so many levels.
Point whoring and mass recruiting your way to the #1 rank is not an accomplishment. All this means is Mario is probably a great SimCity player. But when war comes, true leadership is shown, I saw very little evidence of any leadership. I mean, tell me if I'm wrong, but did 1 Op get planned? I know SnowP/Nomad ran one on BloodyPitt, but what else?
Inactive players can be eliminated and should not be tolerated, especially by the #1 tribe. A good leader would kick and noble these players.
People not following orders is a result of inactivity(should not exist, should have been eliminated), and morale. If your players respect you, and respect the tribe, they will follow orders. If they don't, they are worthless. Kick and noble. There were other battles that should have exposed these players.
Also, fuzzy math much? How exactly do you arrive at 40%/60% for the blame? Also, please explain how the war was 6 against 1.
I can count who joined Frst from Icarus, haxor, Tria(pouncd merged with her So I don't count her),crisis apex=3 people. If three=mass recruiting then I believe we all mass recruit.YA um, Bored! Mass recruit? You must be a FRST fan so,I guess you did not see FRST mass recruit players of Icarus either. Magically 75% of K65 was conquered in 1 day. OR you are new enough to not remember bored! with only 30some players ranked #2 until the Icarus split.
No trying to offend but I did this several times before the collapse of anything...I counted the total numbers in millions waring with bored! and alliesYou must have some fuzzy math of your own if you if you cannot add the total of FRST , LIGHT , WMD , WMD2 , WDM3 and WDM4. I guess you must have went to publik skool
I think I may have to follow in your footsteps and quit the game as I step into the adult world.
There was certainly a lot of hype around Mario and Bored since early that they didn't live up to. I don't wish to flame Mario in his retirement/goodbye thread but I was rather disappointed at the whole outcome. Best of luck wherever life takes you.
You must have some fuzzy math of your own if you if you cannot add the total of FRST , LIGHT , WMD , WMD2 , WDM3 and WDM4. I guess you must have went to publik skool.