are YOU not stealing players? are YOU not propagating-- and openly adimting to it? as for lieing, i think we are ALL giulty as charged. he who is without sin casts the first stone, eh? i somehow doubt it. we have all sinned, yet none of us want to be called sinners. you really cant call us bad, and im sick of our guys calling YOU bad as well. so we should just agree to disagree, cause as much random carnage as possible, and fight to the last friggin' breath. and if you wish to make one group seem the wiser, the nobler, the stroinger, or to make one group seem like unhounorable, dishonest, liers, than simply, i say whatever. NOTHING you say affects those loyal to my tribe, nothing WE say affects you. Live with it!