Yeah a really long time. Took me all of 5 minutes to read AM's post. Longgggg timeeeeeeee. Almost as long as the R4KI war! From what I can tell, you are very disrespectful Des. Not only to non-allies, but allies alike. You were mean to me, and you didn't even know me. If you think that an ally's response and reasoning is boring, time for some different allies. I mean yeah, sure the rim tribes will do what you ask cause they're RIM and desperate, but I prefer quality. The same way I like my women, attractive and loyal, not weak and annoying. As for you saying that you should shorten his speech into "I didn't do anything, it's all your fault.", if you took the time to read you can obviously see AM's apology for what he has done wrong. I take AM to be a respectful, logical person, while you are obviously brash and stubborn. Des is seems like your actions have always been synonymous with your level of available power. When you became part of the initial alliance to take out R4KI, your head got very big. After the combined efforts of everyone involved to successfully break R4KI, you kept that large noggin of yours and managed to take all the spoils of war, which allowed your head to blow up like a balloon. Ever since then, it seems you were pushing around the lesser tribes because of the power you acquired from your previous existing allies and from your merge with R4KI (obvious misjudgment, it seems power shifts frequently here). This caused your existing allies to grow farther apart from you. Misjudgments and assumptions can do that to allies (whether you notice or not) that's why married people often get divorced. Now that this constant push over has allowed for a new power to bubble to the surface, you treat the bubble like a tsunami and quickly act irrationally to try and restore this 'strength'. Truth is, if Omen and Chocho had decided to pull a fast one on you (by attacking), you would be in the same crap hole as R4KI was, and you know it. So now your little ally cushion is resolved to trust alone, which is something you cannot fathom when power is involved. If the leader's instinct is to act irrationally, it's time for a new leader as well as some new scenery. All of these arguments have surfaced from natural human ignorance. Work to change that irrationality in ourselves, and the problems caused by such will dissipate. Regardless of whatever "facts" both sides prevent. It's like the relationship between a kid and his parents... The parents are always right and have the power to make or break the kid... No matter what the kid says... Until the parents are in a nursing home and the "kid" is running the show. It all takes a little growing up to do. As for a response, I dont except Des to even read this. If he does, he'll say something along the lines of "Who is this nobody? Because 'Keep It Easy' isn't an account on this world I'll automatically assume he isn't a human and doesn't deserve respect." But it's ok. I'd prefer the logical people to read this over the irrational, because ignorance is blind to logic. The ones who focus on the illusions of what's in the front of them forget to check behind them. Oh and by the way, If you insist being allies with Omen, but also insist being allies with Ash, Pctrl, and Dark etc, who are you attacking? EDIT: You stated "Yes, because you were spouting all kinds of crap in mails the size of the Eifel Tower. I imagine everyone would stop talking to you then. You don't quite grasp the art of communication." Ever occur to you that life is often too complex to explain in 1-2 sentences? Rarely have I ever seen very complex mathematical equations solved in one line. Logic works best in bulk. Logic by itself tends to just be a statement.