Understand this. Your village has been in my crosshairs for a long long time. Long before you created Norse3. gUTs was allied with Norse and Norse2 at the time I took over the tribe. Since that time, I have received, I think 2 communica's from the Norse family. When you created Norse3, you in essence, created an conundrum for me where your personal village was located, and where you were recruiting. And while I never had Norse3 listed as NAP/Ally, I respected the larger NAP/Alliance I had with Norse. That changed when I discontinued the alliances btwn gUTs and the Norsemen. The nobling of your village was planned long ago ( just waiting for 20:1 rule to expire).... and listening to you in this forum..... well... lets just say, I wanted to get to you b4 your village was taken by gandalfail.